eol release

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 24 Mar 2010, 16:54

Bismuth wrote:just include script that saves every WR rec and copies it to your HDD, in 2 years you will have 54.

lal it was liek the first line of teh coding

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Mar 2010, 17:42

no progress..

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 28 Mar 2010, 17:51

Come on.. we will forget about eol soon

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Mar 2010, 17:53

i already did

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 28 Mar 2010, 19:11

so do you actually have less wr recs than you had when you asked for them? maybe you should release eol when you have none...

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Mar 2010, 19:44

ok, all or none

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 28 Mar 2010, 22:09

omg progress!

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 28 Mar 2010, 23:08

how much do you have?

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 29 Mar 2010, 20:07

There will be no eol.

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 31 Mar 2010, 15:09

Giev EOL soon?

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 1 Apr 2010, 23:49

oh woot! no april fool mila? D:
could be a nice one ;(
like the best possible time calculator a few years ago...

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 Apr 2010, 02:18

did some at #across

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 2 Apr 2010, 11:39

ye but the "give all wr recs" wasn't one. I thought so... ;(
Or maybe I hoped it cause eol release yesterday then ^^

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 4 Apr 2010, 13:40

so we have to wait another 3 years now? ;o

niN · Post by **niN** » 4 Apr 2010, 14:02

I think it's time we all stoped crying. It will come when it comes if it comes. Enjoy the cups, contests and battles we have these days instead.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 4 Apr 2010, 18:16

what battles

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 5 Apr 2010, 01:54

^ What Xiph said.

niN · Post by **niN** » 5 Apr 2010, 01:59

seriously, kuskis whine a lot...

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 5 Apr 2010, 02:25

^ what niN said.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 5 Apr 2010, 02:26

niN wrote:seriously, kuskis whine a lot...

Stop whining at us whining.

umiz · Post by **umiz** » 5 Apr 2010, 08:07

*********** EOL RELASE @ CSABAS PLACE ************
Welcome every1 to teh amazing EOL-release @ CSABA RSOCSOOZZA's place.
Bring friends and apple trees. Cause there is gonna be sum serious planting!
Also bring your saddles for your elmabikes, still there is a bug in EOL which makes teh
saddle uncomfortabel!

Special guest: Balaszhs ROsxhza and his son teh_mila
***********************************************

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 5 Apr 2010, 15:43

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 5 Apr 2010, 18:01

I will B DERRRR

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 7 Apr 2010, 02:34

willbeback if eol comes someday

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 7 Apr 2010, 05:21

Raven wrote:willbeback if eol comes someday

well raven it was nice knowing you, have good lief

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 8 Apr 2010, 12:43

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 13 Apr 2010, 18:43

i didn't have time lately to do anything, but got this nice email :

Heolah, we are moving our server and I can't keep on hosting Elmaonline server. Current server costs 70e/month and the new one will be 0e/month. If you want to keep it, I need that 70e/month. I know this is tough but our deal was that it can be running as long as it doesn't cause any trouble and now it does. Regards, Abu

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 13 Apr 2010, 19:04

oh what a shame, now this means we'll never get to see eol! whereas before there was only a slim possibility of seeing it

i for one don't care, belma provides all the functionality i need. some anti-cheat patch (moderately sophisticated encryption would suffice, i find it disgraceful this wasn't implemented to begin with) and it would be perfect. but of course, noone seems to give a shite

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 13 Apr 2010, 19:10

encryption is implemented now, it wasn't done at first cause it was just a project for fun and at that time ppl cared about functionality, not some shitty antixiit, which would be useless if ppl were normal

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 13 Apr 2010, 19:40

milagros wrote:i didn't have time lately to do anything, but got this nice email :

Heolah, we are moving our server and I can't keep on hosting Elmaonline server. Current server costs 70e/month and the new one will be 0e/month. If you want to keep it, I need that 70e/month. I know this is tough but our deal was that it can be running as long as it doesn't cause any trouble and now it does. Regards, Abu

I don't get it: if the new one is 0e/month, why is there a problem

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 13 Apr 2010, 19:53

i guess teh new server has different properties (can't run executables), ammount of space (for mysql), different performance or what
i guess abula knows the reason why it can't run there anymore

Polarix · Post by **Polarix** » 13 Apr 2010, 20:35

70e/month!
Plan B, do as Jappe suggested as a joke in another topic, about monthly pay for play. hehe

Post by **SveinR** » 13 Apr 2010, 21:00

Well... back when skint0r hosted the belma server, people donated lots of money. Why couldn't people do that again? I don't remember how much was donated, but at least the cost was covered for over a year at one point.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 13 Apr 2010, 21:01

Hereby, In The Name of The Truthful Love to Belma and The Whole Community I Do Honestly Declare To Provide Any Amount Of Money Needed

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 13 Apr 2010, 21:52

honestly svein i was about to suggest donations. i think... we could somehow gather those 70e per month. i could give, lets say, 5-10e a month

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 13 Apr 2010, 22:13

I will donate if it's 100% certain Berh will not be able to play. Mila?

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 13 Apr 2010, 22:45

It's 100% certain I'll be trying try to hack the server if Your Funnynerdy Face will take part in Eol. Mila?

DaFred · Post by **DaFred** » 13 Apr 2010, 22:49

what happend do the old donated money?

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 13 Apr 2010, 22:59

DaFred wrote:What happend do the old donated money?

Skintor stole it. I think it was about 200-250 euro that he took.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 13 Apr 2010, 23:26

abruzzi wrote:It's 100% certain I'll be trying try to hack the server if Your Funnynerdy Face will take part in Eol. Mila?

you wont hack teh server cause you are a fucking nab
any moderate antixiit is enough for you

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 13 Apr 2010, 23:37

He didn't mean that he will hack it. He meant he will be trying to try teh. xD

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 13 Apr 2010, 23:58

every server is possible to hack, and i think so far berh has proved his skills, had he "failed" us even once? :/

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 14 Apr 2010, 00:16

milagros wrote:you wont hack teh server cause you are a fucking nab
any moderate antixiit is enough for you

don't worry mila, i'll do my best, i've got enough articles, tools, exploits and friends that are in the topic. i can't wait for teh eol still worried it won't come this year prolly

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 14 Apr 2010, 03:23

Pawq wrote:every server is possible to hack, and i think so far berh has proved his skills, had he "failed" us even once? :/

to "hack" the belma server atm all you need is this :

1. any tool that can capture all network messages and forward it further to the belma application (with this you ez recognize what's what cause it's uncrypted, this "application" can be done in 20 mins if you know some basics of network stuff)
2. to do nitro cheat all you need is actual nitro patch

for any of the hack he did he did not require any skills and any knowledge of the code and anyone could easily do it
simply script kiddie stuff, i havent seen any proof of skills

i doubt he can get through the eol code atm, i would have serious problems myself (= million fails and automatic bans, annoying registration with new email address if we dont do it invite only) if i didn't know how it's done
tools just don't help, you need very good knowledge of the asm and i didn't use any common technique, just some random shit, no need to read any articles
i doubt any of his pro friends will spend weeks to crack it..
old belma was never supposed to be safe, its just very quick implementation of the desired functionality cause at that time noone really cared about these issues and it was not my 8h/day job

.. and about teh release, you know, sometimes i have some other important stuff to do for a month or two, there have been much longer breaks (some 8 months was teh logest), if anyone wants to complain, just check how often there is one month break in top10, best recs or totaltime updates
i dont really give a shit about your fucking wr recs, i just wondered if anyone (except wno who gave me recs anyway) gives me any recs (credit goes to madness), looks like noone appreciate the work i do that much
if i dont find something more improtant to do, i may do last fixes this weekend

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 14 Apr 2010, 06:06

Mila, you're the best.

umiz · Post by **umiz** » 14 Apr 2010, 06:45

Mila is funny and best. I wish i had all Wrs, ess would send them. Actually im gonna try taking them all naw! I guess i need 1 hour per lev so ill be back in 55 hours (1 hour extra for sleep).
EDIT: Ill add 1 more hour for peeing and sach. I hef a tendence to take long shitbreaks.

and one day in teh future me, Mila, Kopaka and Igge can take a beer. And lol when berhabdul gets all my viruses (im infected) when trying hacking my body.

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 14 Apr 2010, 08:41

Mila making my day again!

niN · Post by **niN** » 14 Apr 2010, 09:19

About the money issue, I'm pretty sure I can't donate anything at the moment. Even though I love this game and I really really want EOL to run smooth, I have no money. I don't even have money to buy new underpants atm. Of course the situation might change, I'm just saying this now so that mila or someone won't go off taking over the server expecting everybody to donate.

Of course, if I had some 10-40€ left over after having bought food and every vital piece of equipement, I would donate it to any future EOL server (if it's needed), without a doubt. But that's not the situation for me now.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 14 Apr 2010, 09:48

70e/month not really realistic in the longterm I think, but it should be possible to find something that works much cheaper. The place I have kopasite hosted offers some virtual private servers where it should be possible to run it, for 15$/month.

Xiphias wrote:
DaFred wrote:What happend do the old donated money?
Skintor stole it. I think it was about 200-250 euro that he took.

Obv nat, it's still there in some account untouched.

masterBurn · Post by **masterBurn** » 14 Apr 2010, 13:21

milagros wrote:i doubt he can get through the eol code atm, i would have serious problems myself (= million fails and automatic bans, annoying registration with new email address if we dont do it invite only) if i didn't know how it's done

alright. i suppose you would be blocking mailinator or such if open registration, and somehow protect against tor-onion and other such "proxies" -- some websites already do that, but it seems a bit complicated; you might be able to achieve most of those results with much efforts, though.

milagros wrote:i dont really give a shit about your fucking wr recs, i just wondered if anyone (except wno who gave me recs anyway) gives me any recs (credit goes to madness), looks like noone appreciate the work i do that much

now that's orthogonal, mila. anyone playing belma actually appreciates the results of your work.

that's quite it, some features i'd still like to see though, like custom resolution, and some less important stuff as the ability to automatically remove time and map displays upon entering game without having to press t or v (some players rarely use any of those displays anyway) -- take this one as a challenge! --, not counting times done by the uploader during battle (so he can play and try to improve his time rather than watching other peepz playing or playing and having to press esc before flower).

besides that, perhaps some kind of reinforcement contingency for uploaders of much-liked levs (because, we've got to reinforce such lev designers).