List of features we would like to have in new version of EOL

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List of features we would like to have in new version of EOL

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I don't know whether a new version of EOL is ever going to happen, but if yes, we can write in this topic what ideas we have about it. Three from me:

1. Instant turn (no animation).
2. Changing LGR in-game.
3. Possibility of creating directiories and subdirectories in Rec folder and then opening them in-game in Replays menu (now you have to keep all recs in one folder)
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MUST HAVE: Name of rec and lev when using RANDOMIZER in REPLAYS
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replay download online from recsource for lazy mans
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Sla wanted me to post this

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I love you!! Was looking for this forever :(

For the noobs:

Get HxD editor, open eol.exe and ctrl+F "74 7E DD 44 24 18 8B 44 24 18 8B 4C 24 1C DC 66"

Change the first "74" to "EB"

Save

Re-open elma

Tada

Edit: except it's not compatible with eol server rip
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Displaying nationality of the players in eol chat, so don't have to ask or lookup in elmaonline.net.
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iCS wrote:Displaying nationality of the players in eol chat, so don't have to ask or lookup in elmaonline.net.
or prob displaying name, team and country above players head?
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sunl wrote:I love you!! Was looking for this forever :(

For the noobs:

Get HxD editor, open eol.exe and ctrl+F "74 7E DD 44 24 18 8B 44 24 18 8B 4C 24 1C DC 66"

Change the first "74" to "EB"

Save

Re-open elma

Tada

Edit: except it's not compatible with eol server rip
If you need anything else, just let me know.
I have a shit load of elma code mapped out.
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Make replay fast forward faster.
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bene wrote:Make replay fast forward faster.
Yes, this would be very useful when watching team replays from ville_j
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so recently i got many ideas, many of them are probably nub, and it would probably need to recode the entire game, but:
-Showing name of lev, creation time and users name in replay section
-When new best time on internal, show when you've broken a target time (imo take directly from elmastats: ok, good, professional, wc), also show when new wr. Also show when you've broken minute TT limit.
-In Best Times section, show the top10 of individual profiles too, also in the whole comp best times part show how many records do each of the profiles have, like in Elmastats when comparing 2-6 players.
-Ability to change LGR-s ingame.
-Ability to change menu background theme (teh green shit) ingame too. Maybe space, aqua or something like that.
-Somehow, when you put a series of numbered levels (xxyy format, xx-name, yy-number) in the lev folder, the game should automatically put it in the levpac section, under xx name. The name could be changed afterwards ofc.
-Some levs besides EOL pack already in EOL folder when downloaded, maybe those that were put in levelpack section of 1.2?
-Higher resolutions available in teh eolconf.
-Ability to automatically save best time int (or some levpack, specified in eolconf) recs in the same format asballe recs (or maybe same format as in elmastats)
and that's it for now
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TGR wrote:-Higher resolutions available in teh eolconf.
Just fyi you can type in any resolution you want in that field. Although if you go much higher than the highest in the list the game can't handle it and will error.
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Kopaka wrote:
TGR wrote:-Higher resolutions available in teh eolconf.
Just fyi you can type in any resolution you want in that field. Although if you go much higher than the highest in the list the game can't handle it and will error.
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Idk if it could be possible to prevent some internal errors, ex. when rec file says it's too old/newdon't make it quit
or if it would be possible to increase the boundaries of the bugginess before interror comes? imo not
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would be nice, if poss to change resolution in game also (bcz of sudden flagtags)
TGR wrote: -Ability to change menu background theme (teh green shit) ingame too. Maybe space, aqua or something like that.
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TGR wrote:Idk if it could be possible to prevent some internal errors, ex. when rec file says it's too old/newdon't make it quit
or if it would be possible to increase the boundaries of the bugginess before interror comes? imo not
I patched most of the internal error in my elma hack, including going too far outside the level, wheels too far, etc... (it makes you restart the level instead of closing the game). I never encountered the rec file too old internal error, is it just that the date on the file is too new/old?

As for your other stuff, someone needs to tell me how the fuck to hook the drawing functions for elma so I can maybe add the other stuff. Old games are annoying to do so...

As for changing the lgr in game and background themes, no thanks... too much work.
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internal errors were not removed, because it would allow for recs that can not be theoretically driven with original elma (bene recs)
fixing it such that the game does not close was too much work - basically the same function was called from various places and it would be hard to return to acceptable state from each place

also removing the error check could have caused comp freeze (division by zero) - it was possible but very hard to achieve even with sl
i used that check removal in that super old 55 rec (13.xx was it?) with free volting (not the almost acceptable bounce rec)
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Cold wrote:
TGR wrote:Idk if it could be possible to prevent some internal errors, ex. when rec file says it's too old/newdon't make it quit
or if it would be possible to increase the boundaries of the bugginess before interror comes? imo not
I patched most of the internal error in my elma hack, including going too far outside the level, wheels too far, etc... (it makes you restart the level instead of closing the game). I never encountered the rec file too old internal error, is it just that the date on the file is too new/old?
What elma hack? Could you send it to me?
The rec file says "too old" mainly when its a nitro one, but sometimes in other 1.0 recs too.
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TGR wrote: 4 Jan 2018, 07:06
Cold wrote:
TGR wrote:Idk if it could be possible to prevent some internal errors, ex. when rec file says it's too old/newdon't make it quit
or if it would be possible to increase the boundaries of the bugginess before interror comes? imo not
I patched most of the internal error in my elma hack, including going too far outside the level, wheels too far, etc... (it makes you restart the level instead of closing the game). I never encountered the rec file too old internal error, is it just that the date on the file is too new/old?
What elma hack? Could you send it to me?
The rec file says "too old" mainly when its a nitro one, but sometimes in other 1.0 recs too.
I haven't released my hack since it can be used online and it includes all the nitro stuff. It's just a private hack for me.
If I were to release it publicly, I would have to make it only work in offline mode or something.

I could check the replay crash if you can send me a rec file that crashes.
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Cold wrote: 5 Jan 2018, 04:19
TGR wrote: 4 Jan 2018, 07:06
Cold wrote:
TGR wrote:Idk if it could be possible to prevent some internal errors, ex. when rec file says it's too old/newdon't make it quit
or if it would be possible to increase the boundaries of the bugginess before interror comes? imo not
I patched most of the internal error in my elma hack, including going too far outside the level, wheels too far, etc... (it makes you restart the level instead of closing the game). I never encountered the rec file too old internal error, is it just that the date on the file is too new/old?
What elma hack? Could you send it to me?
The rec file says "too old" mainly when its a nitro one, but sometimes in other 1.0 recs too.
I haven't released my hack since it can be used online and it includes all the nitro stuff. It's just a private hack for me.
If I were to release it publicly, I would have to make it only work in offline mode or something.

I could check the replay crash if you can send me a rec file that crashes.
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Good feature: accurate stats

Once again I have 170 battles played in 2018/01 even though really it's 4.
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Ability to see levs' top 20 best times with ctrl+F5 when browsing replays
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A button for one frame brake even if you hold the button for longer than that
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Ability to insert music into levels. Could be limited to tracker music or something like that to avoid crazy filesizes. But not having music at all always seemed shitty to me as typically it's a huge part of the atmosphere in any game.
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