Replays sharing

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 19 Jan 2012, 20:18

download doesn't work for me, i'm redirected to start page of kopasite

Red · Post by **Red** » 19 Jan 2012, 21:16

Re-uploaded the file, hopefully it works now.

Glad you enjoyed them, Markku! We've had some nice battling over these levs over the years, I've done my best to break your domination I assure you

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 20 Jan 2012, 05:39

Maybe it's the levels, but very stylish riding in nearly all recs. Beautiful. =D

Kazan · Post by **Kazan** » 21 Jan 2012, 15:41

ok. i played hi flyer and lost connection fucking 1 sec before flower. time was 26:14. will never play this lev again

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 21 Jan 2012, 15:47

Fucking incredible rec.

trew · Post by **trew** » 21 Jan 2012, 16:03

That is so sick.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 21 Jan 2012, 16:05

amazing :O

too bad you got dc'ed :S

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 21 Jan 2012, 16:05

that's how i imagine it perfect

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 21 Jan 2012, 16:12

gaa saveload rec)

trew · Post by **trew** » 21 Jan 2012, 17:23

badyl · Post by **badyl** » 21 Jan 2012, 17:25

dont give up you can do it again

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 21 Jan 2012, 18:15

fuck server.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 21 Jan 2012, 18:17

sever is said to store the inrec events. let it be the proof

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 21 Jan 2012, 18:54

fuck the world o,o someone do sth to accept it, pls :SSSSSSSSS

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 21 Jan 2012, 19:01

With that policy, who in the future decides which players are trusted enough to be granted offline WRs?

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 21 Jan 2012, 19:02

Awesome rec. Too bad the server is so fucked up... this was bound to happen sooner or later. I hope px will accept it as a WR.

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 21 Jan 2012, 19:33

Well teh line is drawn that only online times count. If this is accepted then where is teh line? Very unfortunate, but this is how it's going to be I guess..

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 21 Jan 2012, 19:38

i still think it's kinda stupid to distrust kuskis that have never tried to cheat before

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 21 Jan 2012, 19:46

But if you can find the button presses from the EOL server it indeed is an online time and should be accepted. Did someone observe the run btw?

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 21 Jan 2012, 19:52

Let's wait for Kopa's post about teh, but afaik that data doesn't exist.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 21 Jan 2012, 22:27

Data about a run gets saved the moment the run is finished (esc, die, touch flower), so it never saves the info about such a run where you get disconnected (saving at every key stroke would be kind of insane many writes and updates to db). I too was fearing something like this would happen some day. Dunno any fair solution.

Regarding fixing this issue, problem is none of us really knows what is wrong, so hard to know what to look for should be want to use another server. And would need to move all users to new server to really test it out, which is a lot of work maybe for nothing etc.

anonymous32 · Post by **anonymous32** » 22 Jan 2012, 16:06

Zweq wrote:fuck server.

Damn, man...

I am feeling so bad for you, Kazan.

abruzzi wrote:sever is said to store the inrec events. let it be the proof.

Kopaka wrote:data about a run gets saved the moment the run is finished (esc, die, touch flower), so it never saves the info about such a run where you get disconnected.

Well.

I think I got nothing useful to add, there.

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 22 Jan 2012, 17:03

let px decide. also mila as anti-cheater can run his antixiit progs to check whether it was or wasnt xiited and then decide if ok and wr or xiited and not wr.

abruzzi · Post by **abruzzi** » 22 Jan 2012, 17:11

go back to your church if you don't know enough on a certain topic. smibu's sl is undetectable, so no tools would help. what would be the reason of confirming the times by eol otherwise

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 22 Jan 2012, 17:13

i was today. that´s enuf.

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 22 Jan 2012, 17:35

Hourglass also undetectable with some settings.

source: en little bird tweetyed

Thundr- · Post by **Thundr-** » 24 Jan 2012, 01:22

Cant the time validated somehow? Half of eol was watching live up until last second or so when he got disconnected. At least thats some kind of proof and difference that makes a difference in a courtroom, perhaps not enough evidence for to change the rules but just tossing the idea out there.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 24 Jan 2012, 02:09

Pay Kopaka $ 1000 and he will validate it.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 24 Jan 2012, 08:02

Now it's half of eol? Make up your minds guys, last time it was 2 people.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 24 Jan 2012, 08:42

I doubt Kazan even wants to feel a bit special)D

anonymous32 · Post by **anonymous32** » 24 Jan 2012, 16:00

Well, one could begin by letting the ones who have been spying his run testify. Then, discussion may be furthured towards a more constructive end.

It would weigh a lot on the scale, IMO. Depends on who may have been spying, etc.

Ves · Post by **Ves** » 26 Jan 2012, 09:10

Kopaka wrote:Data about a run gets saved the moment the run is finished (esc, die, touch flower), so it never saves the info about such a run where you get disconnected [...]. I too was fearing something like this would happen some day. Dunno any fair solution.

Why not just send data every five seconds? Or even every one second. Of course, previous event esc-die-finish remains the same, to keep the one packet - one run ideology. Partial data validation in case of disconnect will make cheating not easier than the whole offline ride reproduction.

Kopaka wrote:(saving at every key stroke would be kind of insane many writes and updates to db)

Not really. You may put data modification instructions to some queue, rake it by daemon and write to db with bulk inserts.

Some eolsite pages return "Internal Server Error" most of the time when the server is loaded. It looks like the one who wrote it is not really an expert in db performance.

Kopaka wrote:Regarding fixing this issue, problem is none of us really knows what is wrong, so hard to know what to look for should be want to use another server. And would need to move all users to new server to really test it out, which is a lot of work maybe for nothing etc.

This means nothing but the ones who debugged are not really experts in debugging a living system

Proper investigation would show exactly what was wrong up to byte. Furthermore, when connection was lost reconnect often leads to soon disconnect while "close elma - open elma" scenario helps. It doesn't mean the problem is not somewhere between kuski and eolserver but the place where the problem exists must be found exactly.

Feel free to contact me for any related help.

ONTOP. Kazan, nice rec, I believe some day you will manage to do short left

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 26 Jan 2012, 09:12

I contact Ves here)

PLs fix))

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 26 Jan 2012, 09:25

Ves wrote:
Kopaka wrote:Data about a run gets saved the moment the run is finished (esc, die, touch flower), so it never saves the info about such a run where you get disconnected [...]. I too was fearing something like this would happen some day. Dunno any fair solution.
Why not just send data every five seconds? Or even every one second. Of course, previous event esc-die-finish remains the same, to keep the one packet - one run ideology. Partial data validation in case of disconnect will make cheating not easier than the whole offline ride reproduction.

Drive til you get a decent start, disconnect, save rec, play rest in sl, tell you got wr. gg ;D

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 26 Jan 2012, 09:59

save rec, play rest in sl, tell you got wr

how would you "play rest in sl"? Does smibu's sl work online?

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 26 Jan 2012, 10:15

Someone said hourglass was undetectable with certain settings

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 26 Jan 2012, 10:59

oh i'm being dumb again

It can't play movies back with those though, so you gotta do all in one sitting, but it'll work.

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 26 Jan 2012, 15:30

Second Redesigning vid

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 26 Jan 2012, 16:36

very nice vid, was waiting for mans to share some redesign recs, thanks for that. Maybe wrong tropic tho)

Ves · Post by **Ves** » 27 Jan 2012, 08:04

Igge wrote:I contact Ves here)

PLs fix))

PM me or force somebody to PM me with some credentials

Björn wrote:Drive til you get a decent start, disconnect, save rec, play rest in sl, tell you got wr. gg ;D

You must understand that if such a mechanism appear, it will be used in exceptional cases. It's absolutely up to community to decide whether there was recorded in enough data or not.

In Kazan's hiflyer ride all significant tricks were demonstrated publicly. I don't think he would appeal if he was disconnected around 16:xx.

If the problem will persist we also may think about some extra-logging. For example, webcam which captures and transmits video of höyling to safe place in real-time.

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 27 Jan 2012, 13:03

that would be too much data.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 27 Jan 2012, 13:53

i guess eol design document(milas head) didnt take into account there will be public undetectable SL. There's still plenty to improve before starting saving data all the time, maybe those could be tried first: new server, bug fixes, upgrade birds in russia carrying ip packets

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 8 Feb 2012, 03:35

Stopped wheel rotation in air by tapping gas. Nothing very special, I just haven't noticed sach before. It's at ~7:50

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 8 Feb 2012, 13:45

wtf happen tere , i want takajarru also

John · Post by **John** » 8 Feb 2012, 15:59

Pretty cool

5tr1k3r · Post by **5tr1k3r** » 9 Feb 2012, 00:13

nice, turned out to be quite ez though

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 9 Feb 2012, 00:31

A bit harder if it's spinning faster. =))

5tr1k3r · Post by **5tr1k3r** » 9 Feb 2012, 00:52

sure)

anonymous32 · Post by **anonymous32** » 15 Feb 2012, 03:42

Zweq wrote:wtf happen tere , i want takajarru also

John wrote:Pretty cool

ez 13,99 warm up with that, girls. :p

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 16 Feb 2012, 00:13

more spam posts plz

edit: whoever you are anonymous32, stop the spam would you. And start using your real nickname, there is a function called "lost password" if you forgot it.
If you like so much to write, I would suggest what Igge once said: just make a .txt and enjoy yourself there.