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Haruhi wrote:15 has two hard parts - the drop after the last apple and the drop at the end. Should be possible with xiit though.
Again, I have not played for a while, and both Moposite and Elma Online sites seem to lack internal-maps feature, so I am at a blank.

However, it seems to me, from memory, at least in level 15, that one can just continue forward after the bottom-right apple and wall-hate it a little bit through braking (wall-hating refers to using it for anti-speed purposes, and, conversely, following its curves and being sensual with it means wall-loving).

The third type of wall interaction one can have is wall-bouncing. This one seems quite neutral, which is the reason it is in a separated category.
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that 15 was ez with xiit after all, much easier than 31 or 36, only i haven't tried before:)
16 could be possible too
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in 16 its pretty hard to do teh last drop to ground, also last apple taking onewheel might be tricky, tired it, as hard as in serpents... maybe more.
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Was trying some styles in Gravity Ride to see if I would get any idea of what Zweq's style could be. Fail but fun nonetheless.
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Few more useless ones.
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http://elma.oktobia.org/srp/?recurl=htt ... hp?id=2119

Nice recs, creative -- interesting to watch.

This is what is nice with Zweq, he makes you scratch your head a little bit. :D
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Xiphias styles 5 and 6 are close to old wr-style by psy :D
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elmas wrote:Xiphias styles 5 and 6 are close to old wr-style by psy :D
didn´t psy have some gangnam style too?
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Nice styles. Here's one more.
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Tigro wrote:
elmas wrote:Xiphias styles 5 and 6 are close to old wr-style by psy :D
didn´t psy have some gangnam style too?
Same end in Psy rec wich was in old WR-rec pack
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somebody asked)
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Nice, go for WR!
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Very nice. Hard to put into words, but I've watched it three times in a row.

Head was amazingly close to ground. Beat that Zweq pussy! :)

Bring that down to 13,99. ;)
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on eol you still have 14,04.
edit: it was explained to me.. :| shame.
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Nice end bounce :lol:

I guess not acceptable
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it's not worse than stini's enigma.
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would be another case of enigma if you finished and was accepted I think:D
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Lukazz wrote:it's not worse than stini's enigma.
if i'm getting it right, the only criterion for bounce-legitness determination is its reproducibility.

this bounce i believe is not reproducible enough for it to be considered legit or acceptable.
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this warrants a separate post...

incredible rec, jarkko. i don't remember seeing such a fast hang-tight run. kudos! :beer:
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twipley wrote:this warrants a separate post...

incredible rec, jarkko. i don't remember seeing such a fast hang-tight run. kudos! :beer:
That was slow, just a basic cruising run.
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perfectly acceptable, only you missed teh flower i guess
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twipley wrote:
Lukazz wrote:it's not worse than stini's enigma.
if i'm getting it right, the only criterion for bounce-legitness determination is its reproducibility.

this bounce i believe is not reproducible enough for it to be considered legit or acceptable.
Stini did Pipe (bug)bounce 5 times or so which I would say means "reproducible" but it still wasn't accepted.
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Xarthok wrote:Stini did Pipe (bug)bounce 5 times or so which I would say means "reproducible" but it still wasn't accepted.
do not confound reproducible with "reproducible enough," though.
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milagros wrote:perfectly acceptable
i'm just curious... what is your criterion?

is it a speed one? just trying to develop criterions, here.
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twipley wrote:
Xarthok wrote:Stini did Pipe (bug)bounce 5 times or so which I would say means "reproducible" but it still wasn't accepted.
do not confound reproducible with "reproducible enough," though.
This is very subjective. Your definition isn't clear.
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Xarthok wrote:
twipley wrote:
Lukazz wrote:it's not worse than stini's enigma.
if i'm getting it right, the only criterion for bounce-legitness determination is its reproducibility.

this bounce i believe is not reproducible enough for it to be considered legit or acceptable.
Stini did Pipe (bug)bounce 5 times or so which I would say means "reproducible" but it still wasn't accepted.
Not sure on this one but inst bounceforce coefficient is also taken into consideration, not just reproducability?
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Thundr- wrote:Not sure on this one but inst bounceforce coefficient also taken into consideration, not just reproducability?
it seems to be the same thing -- high coefficient values are rare, therefore not reproducible enough.
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twipley wrote:
Thundr- wrote:Not sure on this one but inst bounceforce coefficient also taken into consideration, not just reproducability?
it seems to be the same thing -- high coefficient values are rare, therefore not reproducible enough.
But its not entirely the same, even though they are often linked. Speed is also an issue, if you get an extremely powerful bounce (super bug) while driving slowly and your forward velocity is increased like 2000% straight into the sky which anyone can agree is not legit and it doesnt happen very often (very low reproducability). Its always easier to bounce when driving at higher speeds so in a level such as labpro or enigma where the initial speed is quite high, and the resulting bounce only marginally increases the speed (but still noticably) the reproducability is higher even though the end-result might be the same forward speed as example nr1
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Thundr- wrote:
twipley wrote:
Thundr- wrote:Not sure on this one but inst bounceforce coefficient also taken into consideration, not just reproducability?
it seems to be the same thing -- high coefficient values are rare, therefore not reproducible enough.
But its not entirely the same, even though they are often linked.
both seem to be sub-concepts of a more general one. reproducibility and coefficience. are, at second sight, different, although inextricably linked, concepts.

in other words, whenever speed gains are in deviation from expectations, or in departure from "normal" experiences, bounce legitness attracts its share of doubts.
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In my humble opinion, bounce force coefficient is closely relative to the reproducibility in most scenarios. Although, on the other hand, the occurrence of an excessive deviation of the final velocity obtained after bounce completion might be discernibly different with different settings as a consequence of some unexplored circumstances. This can result in a wholly incoherent interpretation on the legitimacy of this widespread phenomenon. Therefore we should endeavor to gently approach this indubitably serious problem instead of jumping to conclusions.
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Madness wrote:Although, on the other hand, the occurrence of an excessive deviation of the final velocity obtained after bounce completion might be discernibly different with different settings as a consequence of some unexplored circumstances. This can result in a wholly incoherent interpretation on the legitimacy of this widespread phenomenon. Therefore we should endeavor to gently approach this indubitably serious problem instead of jumping to conclusions.
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did some dicking lately and found some wasted effort. i remember höyling that cunt like a homo
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Useful rec, I'm gonna try Ramp soon but prostyle is too pro for me so this one will be fine. :)
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Zweq wrote:did some dicking lately and found some wasted effort. i remember höyling that cunt like a homo
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won't bother posting this in "hoylas test new styles" topic...
just some push move in tunnel that may be faster. please judge.
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Nice push :)
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Tm wrote:please judge.
ez 49. :)
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definitely faster, nice one ;)
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Yeah faster. But not really new, Luther used it in 2003. :)
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Madness wrote:Yeah faster. But not really new, Luther used it in 2003. :)
for archival purposes do you have the rec?
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he (madik) wasn't even in the scene then... I hate when someone makes some jokes that cripple the history of elma, it's immature and careless
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yeah but if you mean his age with ded's then this aspect goes away, far far away in a ganjaic world.

edit: damn maddik, stop screwing with mine mind. xD

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my recdates in main elmafolder got fukd, but i'm pretty sure luth got this 59,47 in october of 2003. Of course, his way of doing it was laughable >:D Wonder how much faster it can get than the usual style.
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i would say 0.1
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anpdad wrote:my recdates in main elmafolder got fukd, but i'm pretty sure luth got this 59,47 in october of 2003. Of course, his way of doing it was laughable >:D Wonder how much faster it can get than the usual style.
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if i remember correctly, yeah zweq did that 1 sec drop, everyone was liek o_O wtf -- and then luther tried some new route and came up with that.

edit: at that time it can well be seen rides were executed at around 60 fps, or perhaps at that time even at more because crts were still somewhat of a norm.
Zweq wrote:i would say 0.1
given kazan hasn't already used it? (if you haven't seen his rec, of course -- i don't know whether you guys trade such or not.)

seems hard to execute properly, too -- of course perhaps not that hard if you guys are able to put off that trick later off in the level.
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I have tried that style too and I didn't see any Luther rec driven with it before. Also have some other style that might be quicker there, duno.
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some old recs. megafails. it was long time before kazan made it
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very nice, cap.

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Bjenn wrote:Also have some other style that might be quicker there, duno.
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oh i just realize 09z5188.rec leads 09tasanp4963.rec by 0.6 so ez 48 in tunnel
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