Target List v1.3 BETA

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:29

http://www.moposite.com/misc_text_files/target_elma.txt

Ok, now, update I'm suggesting is:

WC Pro Good Ok Beg.
Flat Track 0:15,45 0:15,80 0:16,30 0:17,00 0:19,00
new:
Flat Track 0:15,30 0:15,80 0:17,00 0:17,50 0:19,15

Uphill 0:21,20 0:21,80 0:22,30 0:23,50 0:25,50
new:
Uphill 0:20,50 0:20,95 0:22,00 0:23,40 0:25,50

Hi-Flyer 0:34,25 0:35,30 0:36,50 0:38,00 0:42,00
new:
Hi-Flyer 0:33,90 0:35,00 0:36,50 0:38,00 0:42,00

Hill 0:16,70 0:18,00 0:20,00 0:22,00 0:24,00
new:
Hill 0:16,00 0:16,60 0:19,00 0:22,00 0:25,00

Serp 1:03,50 1:05,60 1:08,00 1:11,50 1:25,00
new:
Serp 0:57,90 1:02,00 1:08,00 1:11,50 1:25,00

As for now. Any other suggestions?

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:32

i would put serp more like:

56.00 1:00.00 1:06.00 1:10.00 1:20.00

but blah urs are pretty fine

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:41

Seems to be quite good I think.

John · Post by **John** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:42

I agree with sierra about serpents at least

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:47

To clarify my thoughts of 57,90 and 1,02,00: I consider playing jazka style under 57,90 to be as WC as a crappy finish with the bounce (eg. 57,50 run). I know you can't consider two styles normally, but I still think it's fair. And as for professional 1,02,00: here you can finish bounce style, jazka style, old style, and still keep PRO-status.

56,00, a bounce will be needed.
and as for 1,00.. either a crappy bounce run or jazka style..

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:50

I see, luther can suggest new targets but I can't

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 8 Nov 2005, 21:51

zworqy wrote:I see, luther can suggest new targets but I can't

I basically made the targets everyone use now ;F I guess I can suggest changes to my own old one then ey?

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 8 Nov 2005, 22:12

ok but i think 16:00 is a bit to good for WC on hill legend, only 8 ppls or so with WC target then... maybe 16.20 ?

Rasken · Post by **Rasken** » 8 Nov 2005, 22:49

its only 8 people probably because not many have hoyled the new style
16,00 sounds ok to me

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 8 Nov 2005, 22:53

hill ok, uphil hmmm hard to say, i have 20.5x, serp bounce needed to be wc, 56.00

Jalli · Post by **Jalli** » 8 Nov 2005, 23:35

If Hill is only 16.00 it will have to be lowered as soon as more ppl start playing the new style. 15.80 is at least better. Not hard at all if you put some time into it...

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 9 Nov 2005, 00:04

Luther wrote:
zworqy wrote:I see, luther can suggest new targets but I can't
I basically made the targets everyone use now ;F I guess I can suggest changes to my own old one then ey?

You mean the targets you practically forced on people

John · Post by **John** » 9 Nov 2005, 00:17

at least they are better than the previous targets where 200 players had 54 wc

crazyevildude · Post by **crazyevildude** » 9 Nov 2005, 01:33

zworqy wrote:
Luther wrote:
zworqy wrote:I see, luther can suggest new targets but I can't
I basically made the targets everyone use now ;F I guess I can suggest changes to my own old one then ey?
You mean the targets you practically forced on people

No one has to except them, if you don't want to go along with them fine.

The thing is it's only fair that WC times are reserved for the very best times. If it was easy to get WC then what would the top players have to aim for? The way it is now is fine, n00bs like me have plenty to aim for getting the Beginner and ok times, while the top players still have to aim for WC on all levels (except John

). When a new, easier, style is invented that allows many players to achieve WC E.G. Jazka's Serps style then it makes sense that the times are adjusted to compensate. Otherwise you're effectivly saying achieving Jazkas style makes you as skilled as getting the bounce when that is simply not true. I do, however, like the way Luther has made it that a very fast time with Jazka style is enough for WC.
If Jazka style was harder then and adjustment might not need to be made.

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 9 Nov 2005, 09:21

maybe zworqy should play more and whine less. a player who has played for 7 years and still doesn't have any good times shouldn't decide anything in this matter, sorry.

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 9 Nov 2005, 09:37

too good times.... I think no need to update.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 9 Nov 2005, 09:59

dunno why do you want to update flattrack or hifly, nothing new there
maybe curva times and longhaul times should be updated too, styles were found after last update

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 9 Nov 2005, 10:08

i think haircut is a bit too ez wc, if you compare to lets say labyrinth. at least relatively

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 9 Nov 2005, 13:05

New status:

WC Pro Good Ok Beg.

(definitely needed)
Flat Track 0:15,45 0:15,80 0:16,30 0:17,00 0:19,00
new:
Flat Track 0:15,30 0:15,80 0:17,00 0:17,50 0:19,15

(definitely needed)
Uphill 0:21,20 0:21,80 0:22,30 0:23,50 0:25,50
new:
Uphill 0:20,50 0:20,95 0:22,00 0:23,40 0:25,50

(just saw some minor improvements possible)
Hi-Flyer 0:34,25 0:35,30 0:36,50 0:38,00 0:42,00
new:
Hi-Flyer 0:33,90 0:35,00 0:36,50 0:38,00 0:42,00

(definitely needed)
Hill 0:16,70 0:18,00 0:20,00 0:22,00 0:24,00
new:
Hill 0:16,00 0:16,60 0:19,00 0:22,00 0:25,00

(definitely needed)
Serp 1:03,50 1:05,60 1:08,00 1:11,50 1:25,00
new:
Serp 0:56,50 1:01,00 1:08,00 1:11,50 1:25,00

(suggestion to zweq)
Hc 0:42,30 0:44,50 0:48,00 0:55,00 1:11,00
new:
Hc 0:41,50 0:43,20 0:47,00 0:54,00 1:09,00

(suggestion to milagros, jalli)
Curv 0:31,40 0:33,65 0:35,65 0:38,00 0:55,00
new:
Curv 0:30,90 0:32,40 0:35,50 0:38,00 0:55,00

And I don't agree with, you milagros, about Long Haul at all.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 9 Nov 2005, 13:58

ZWORQY STFU WHINER.

And good target changes, Luth.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 9 Nov 2005, 14:34

Suggestion: Hooked targets are too easy (!), atl east Ok and Good ones.

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 9 Nov 2005, 14:42

ye that's nice now Luther

Memfis · Post by **Memfis** » 9 Nov 2005, 18:01

good

John · Post by **John** » 9 Nov 2005, 21:01

oh well guess I have to run to friends place again to play some flat :X

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 18 Apr 2006, 11:45

what's up with the targets now? are they official?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 18 Apr 2006, 13:41

i can sleep well, i have all pro also here;)

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 19 Apr 2006, 11:31

One mistake has been made: WC total time SHOULD be 38.09.32. Im correcting that soon

edit:
steep and haircut should have an * after them as well (and slalom)

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 19 Apr 2006, 11:32

Please no....

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 19 Apr 2006, 11:34

berhabdul wrote:Please no....

what? should I leave it with an incorrect Total time?

lol?

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 19 Apr 2006, 11:37

Ill go through all GOOD, OK and BEGINNER times very thorough today (when i get home). So there'll be an update today again, stay tuned :p

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 19 Apr 2006, 12:53

UPDATED

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 19 Apr 2006, 15:36

Luther wrote:UPDATED

Ok, but still some small errors:

There is a dot instead of a comma in O&U Pro time
Spiral is changed but not marked

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 19 Apr 2006, 16:01

This one should be TEH ONE: Target times in Elasto Mania v1.3.txt
(right click, save target as...)

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 19 Apr 2006, 17:12

simon_labroue wrote:This one should be TEH ONE: Target times in Elasto Mania v1.3.txt
(right click, save target as...)

eh? no... correct one is on moposite already nat?

There is a dot instead of a comma in O&U Pro time
Spiral is changed but not marked

will fix later today

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 20 Apr 2006, 17:31

Luther wrote:
simon_labroue wrote:This one should be TEH ONE: Target times in Elasto Mania v1.3.txt
(right click, save target as...)
eh? no... correct one is on moposite already nat?

There is a dot instead of a comma in O&U Pro time
Spiral is changed but not marked
will fix later today

he already fixed thoose things zworqy mentioned, so in fact the most correct one is not on moposite :D

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 25 Apr 2006, 15:44

When can we get an updated *Stats.exe*?

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 25 Apr 2006, 20:01

Juski wrote:he already fixed thoose things zworqy mentioned

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=89771
This is the one version I do use. No asterixes. Simplified, v1.3 Final

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 25 Apr 2006, 20:50

ive been wondering.... i still have this thing called "ElmaTimes" which is a program you use with your stats.txt and it tells you among other nice features what status your individual internal times have,... which basicly means that instead of counting it your self with this 1.3 target list it doest it for you...

the problem is though that its kinda outdated.. so wouldnt it be nice if someone with the proper programming skills could update this program to take in the new target list and then just add the new target times every time its updated...

at least in my world this seems logical and worth it

wwwDotcoM · Post by **wwwDotcoM** » 26 Apr 2006, 11:36

Use Stats View (SView). Targets are stored in a text file, which you will just need to edit it in the right format.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 26 Apr 2006, 13:44

wwwDotcoM wrote:Use Stats View (SView). Targets are stored in a text file, which you will just need to edit it in the right format.

Have you updated it? If so I would love it if you would upload the txt files :*

Maska · Post by **Maska** » 30 Apr 2006, 00:02

http://masbot.hoyler.net/files/targets_elmatiming.zip - targets for ElMa Timing by me

http://www.mxb.dk/upload/targets.txt - targets for StatsView by NightMar_JNR.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 10 Jun 2006, 01:15

Don't know if it's *illegal* but I edited the *Stats.exe* program to these target times. Guess they are the newest.
http://www.moposite.com/misc_text_files ... a_v1.3.txt
Don't know who did this program

Here: http://www.mxb.dk/upload/STATS%20Target ... 0Final.EXE

Don't know why the /../target_elma_v1.3.txt has the Beginner TT = 1:04:10,00
When it should be 1:04:04,10
Maybe it's made on purpose.

The only thing i changed were the target times..i've got no idea about Worst Case Total Time

Lee · Post by **Lee** » 10 Jun 2006, 03:44

the worst case total time is working xiphias. thanx for that.

it would be better if you could check the targets for your average times too.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 25 Jun 2006, 07:16

I think the targets should change so that theire equal with world stats....so world top 10 time = WC world top 50 = Pro, top 100= good etc.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 19 Sep 2007, 22:10

will there be any changes soon? i think some stats could be changed!
like tunnel terror and hill legend!

Polarix · Post by **Polarix** » 19 Sep 2007, 22:29

I just did 19.50 on hill legend and ok is 19.50 and i suck in this level and i cant improve.
Conclution: Dont edit OK target on this level

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 20 Sep 2007, 07:58

nah i mean just the WC target, 16.30 for prof is ok

Polarix · Post by **Polarix** » 20 Sep 2007, 18:05

okay then its ok for me

Hx · Post by Hx » 1 Nov 2007, 05:44

Xiphias wrote: Don't know who did this program

Here: http://www.mxb.dk/upload/STATS%20Target ... 0Final.EXE

does anybody have a working link for this program?

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 1 Nov 2007, 12:08

maybe 15.00 hill wc and tunnel 57.00? or are those too hard

edit: shit checked the old and im too optimistic, maybe 15.30 & 57.50