Is "THIS" considered a bug bounce?

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Is "THIS" considered a bug bounce?

Post by wwwDotcoM » 14 May 2006, 15:57

I did not find a topic alike. If there is one, please get me the link and erase this one.

http://zworqy.com/up/files/09bugz.rec

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Post by Karlis » 14 May 2006, 16:14

looks like a miniversion of stinibounce
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Post by Dynamo » 14 May 2006, 17:29

lmao if Stinibounce looks like that, then why is it not a bug? lol
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Post by milagros » 14 May 2006, 18:08

he meant stini's pipe bounces:)
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Post by Crazy » 14 May 2006, 18:22

milagros wrote:he meant stini's pipe bounces:)
And if he meant some other bounce it is still strange, ez agree with dyna.. (I guess you've seen THE bounce too mila)
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Post by zworqy » 14 May 2006, 19:09

<Fihlvein> another case of zworqy-is-always-right closed i guess
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Post by Cfilorvy » 14 May 2006, 19:38

zworqy wrote:http://vk0.dk:81/pub.php?/Zworqy07.rec

What about this one? :s
If the "bug" doesn't give you any exstra speed or make you do impsy things, I don't see how they shouldn't be considered as bugs. I won't call your "bounce" a bug.
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Post by Boomer » 14 May 2006, 19:49

http://www.mxb.dk/upload/30WAHAHA.rec

That is what I call a bugbounce =) The driver is Darm if I remember correctly.
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Post by Dynamo » 14 May 2006, 20:16

Ya its Darm haha
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Re: Is "THIS" considered a bug bounce?

Post by petsen » 14 May 2006, 21:14

wwwDotcoM wrote:I did not find a topic alike. If there is one, please get me the link and erase this one.

http://zworqy.com/up/files/09bugz.rec
thats less bug than luthers and stinis enigma
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Post by Dynamo » 14 May 2006, 21:55

Well if what Petsen says is true, those two times are not legit by far
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Post by petsen » 14 May 2006, 22:38

as i told luther when i saw his rec, i dont think it should be allowed, its very buggy.. obvious bug even,... many said that mambos old 20.17 enigma rec was a bug, id say these 2 are more buggy..
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Re: Is "THIS" considered a bug bounce?

Post by SveinR » 14 May 2006, 22:55

petsen wrote: thats less bug than luthers and stinis enigma
I dunno if I've seen Luther's, but from my memory, I wouldn't say Stini's Enigma is more buggy than this.
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Post by petsen » 14 May 2006, 23:57

well i cant remember stinis that well so count that one out of my comments :) cuz i might remember poorly..
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Post by John » 15 May 2006, 00:51

09bugz has pretty much no compression and still bounce off like crazy, ez bug
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Post by teajay » 15 May 2006, 08:39

To me it seems the kuski gains more speed than he originally had, so that means bug, right?

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Post by petsen » 15 May 2006, 09:38

tijsjoris wrote:To me it seems the kuski gains more speed than he originally had, so that means bug, right?

if thats the rule, then both luthers and stinis are bug...


I really think this bug situation should be solved quickly with some rule about bugs, before wrs start being disapproved even though they are on the table.. records too since luthers isnt a wr..


(this is NOT to offend luther or anyone else, im just saying my opinion)
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Post by Luther » 15 May 2006, 09:43

I myself think of my enigma as rather "buggy", though I have been told from those "who knows", that it is not a bug. And I guess it is up to them to decide really.

I guess milagros and Abula etc have special ways of measuring those things. And a bug-looking bounce might not be a bug at all, compared to a normal looking "bug-bounce", if you know what i mean.

My bounce looks very much like a bug (and you can find it on the ICE site), but the speed of the bounce is what matters, and mine doesnt have enough speed to be considered a proper "bug".

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Post by petsen » 15 May 2006, 16:37

it isnt the speed that decides this...


Ciph drove 17,9x when the wr was 18,02 in hooked but his wheel "popped" and actually didnt give him that much speed and it was considered a bug

ill share the rec if i find it
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Post by SveinR » 15 May 2006, 17:57

I don't think Luther's 19.29 looks like a bug at all. Mainly, he gets that extra speed because of the extra -> before the bounce. When it comes to wwwDotcoM's 09bugz.rec, however, there is no such extra volt/push to help it.
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Post by Jazka » 16 Jun 2006, 12:15

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Post by milagros » 16 Jun 2006, 12:52

petsen wrote:it isnt the speed that decides this...


Ciph drove 17,9x when the wr was 18,02 in hooked but his wheel "popped" and actually didnt give him that much speed and it was considered a bug

ill share the rec if i find it
i think it wasnt ciph, it was mengerle and it did give him extra speed
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Post by petsen » 16 Jun 2006, 15:59

milagros wrote:
petsen wrote:it isnt the speed that decides this...


Ciph drove 17,9x when the wr was 18,02 in hooked but his wheel "popped" and actually didnt give him that much speed and it was considered a bug

ill share the rec if i find it
i think it wasnt ciph, it was mengerle and it did give him extra speed
ciph did it too, Rigger showed me the rec some years ago and we had a talk about bug bounces cuz i was noob back then
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Post by anpdad » 16 Jun 2006, 19:19

Jazka - YES OF COURSE, obvious bug-bounce. I'd say - classic bugbounce.

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Post by Dynamo » 25 Jun 2006, 07:14

It's pretty buggy, damnit why couldn't bouncing just be eliminated altogether?
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Post by petsen » 1 Nov 2006, 22:14

SveinR wrote:I don't think Luther's 19.29 looks like a bug at all. Mainly, he gets that extra speed because of the extra -> before the bounce. When it comes to wwwDotcoM's 09bugz.rec, however, there is no such extra volt/push to help it.


im sorry, how can u say this? yes that new -> style gives a different bounce but its SO clear that the wheel pops out.. like in ANY OTHER normal bug rec..

I want clear rules for bugs/bounces.... and in print on moposite please.
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Post by SveinR » 1 Nov 2006, 22:47

petsen wrote: im sorry, how can u say this? yes that new -> style gives a different bounce but its SO clear that the wheel pops out.. like in ANY OTHER normal bug rec..
Sure, the wheel pops, but he doesn't recieve any extra speed from it.
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Post by petsen » 1 Nov 2006, 23:04

never the less even a bad bug is still a bug... rules are rules... imo. Stini gets ekstra speed... and again still legal..


Heres is a rec driven by Ciph when wr on hooked was 18.0x this bug which is the same as luthers doesnt give Ciph any ekstra speed and still was counted illegal...

http://up.k10x.net/ryolretcvnvwb/53wr.rec

I still dont get why luthers is on the list..

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Post by Kestas » 2 Nov 2006, 02:58

well actually it gives him a slight boost and there's no need of a slow motion to track it.
havent seen luther's one but this is obviously a nice buggy

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Post by petsen » 2 Nov 2006, 09:01

i dunno if luthers public so i wont upload it just yet.. but it should be so this could be discussed so rules can be made.
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Post by SveinR » 2 Nov 2006, 13:04

It's been discussed i another thread before though: http://www.moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=4376
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