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i think .59 is reasonable for flat trak
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TGR wrote: 12 Feb 2018, 15:55 i think .59 is reasonable for flat trak
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iltsu wrote: 12 Feb 2018, 17:44
TGR wrote: 12 Feb 2018, 15:55 i think .59 is reasonable for flat trak
No it isnt
Spef's 14.64 was near perfect run then :?:
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Yes ofc 0.05s better is VERY EZ pos. Spef only hoyled style like 1 or 2 months and has 500 better times than world top2. Saveload wr is 0.01s better. I dont say .64 is perfect run, but i dont see how 0.05s better is reasonable.
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Even if it was, it's just 0.05 after all, and it wouldn't contribute to 33wrtt that significantly.
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iltsu wrote: 14 Feb 2018, 07:49 Yes ofc 0.05s better is VERY EZ pos. Spef only hoyled style like 1 or 2 months and has 500 better times than world top2. Saveload wr is 0.01s better. I dont say .64 is perfect run, but i dont see how 0.05s better is reasonable.
These kind of posts has been seen here since like 2000 and now we simply chuckle at the old predictions.

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0.05 in every level adds up quickly to a second or two :bear:
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If 0.05s improve is reasonable in int2, then lets just cut 0.5s from longer levs because its relatively as possible. Ez 33wrtt then. Sounds reasonable to me.
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what is Spef's SL time on Flaktrak? can't believe its only 0,01 better than WR....
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Schumi wrote: 14 Feb 2018, 16:54 what is Spef's SL time on Flaktrak? can't believe its only 0,01 better than WR....
böne accidentally showed teh on livestream and it's not .63 now
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TGR wrote: 14 Feb 2018, 17:44 böne accidentally showed teh on livestream and it's not .63 now
it's true i accidentally showed rec names on stream. Quite many more than 02 I should add :bear: Doesn't say anything about quality or shampooing or fps changes or whatever tricks can be in them. You can't reasonably guess any time by a rec name alone.
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Nothing much happened during 395-400 tablets:
- danitah improved int01 to 13:88;
- zweq improved int05 to 19.76 and int53 to 16.39.
- some measly attempts to get close to other times (could mention: int35, int39, int41, int45, int48, int51).

target tt down to 34.09.99 (see first post as usual).

From now on, see you every 5 tablets.
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Good progress with 402 tablet:
- First time in the history of 33wrtt targets certain target was embarrassed. Thanks to Spef and his 38,73 on Tricks Abound. Target was 41,09;
- FinMan engraved his nickname with 28,43 on Pipe. Target was - 28,56.

Honorable mention:
- Zweq closened Turnaround with his 35,46. Target - 35,43.

Target tt down to 34:07,52.

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could you please megapros try to do this 48.9x on Ziggy?

http://recs.zamppe.com/replays/678/show?33T495x

Megabounce can be ~1 sec faster: -0.9 sec
50.84 rec has 0.35sec better start: -0.35
finish part on 50.84 has 0.65 advance: -0.65

this means -1.9 sec = 48.9x
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bene ruled out int44 with 406 tablet, beating imposed target by 0,01. :wink:

Not much else going on, regarding closement to other targets.
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Mielz exacted enigma on 19,13 and closed haircuts GAP. :idea:
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First post updated with the latest times according to WR table of the number of 412.

After good cruise through all internals it seems to me that:
- Labyrinth Pro WR should be 2.10,xx as well as New Wave WR should be timed around 1.21.8x;
- Precarious WR is one the toughest to mess around;
- Twin Peaks, Islands in the Sky, Sink and Jaws targets are a bit too nasty, but watahel let it stay this way;
- Quick Round should be without fear attempted at skill level of 34.9x;
- Expert System is very promising 49,low.

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Beloved Elma community. Please, see first post and give reasonable advice on two issues until 2022 October 13.

A - any target changes, that would be possible for human and might project towards 33tt.
B - Tier levels changes on yet to be beaten targets. Ofc Tier 1 - ipsy, Tier 5 - ez by 2023.

With regarding to all gathered knowledge I will make a Final target list for internals for eternity and ever after... Let's see where it gets us.
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my list of target:

tag (08): 19.79 - tier 2 - should be ez u20 with going left, 19.79 needs oke run
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Labs such big mouth, but does he have anything to back his words with?
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Imo zweq rec is open source, i have madness rec also, i see possible humanly.
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Tm say: "I wanna hear everyone's opinions"
Labs say: "Here's my opinion"
iltsu say: "who are you to have an opinion"

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Re: 33wrtt project

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Predictions are hard because there could be unfound moves, and moves are hard to find cuz elma is such a dynamic game. Lab pro seemed max impsy 2.08 in the past, but 5 weeks of anp-assisted cruising made 2.08 look possible.

What targets ez better pos
04 honestly, my ride was gonna be better than that 28.79 target but i messed up the end. I use new unpublic move. I'd tune the target to 28.72 or something. It's not much at all lol, but it's something.
53 ez 16.29 should be poss in just 1 week höyl or something. Just need som good touch and then get lucky with strong pops.

All other targets wher i hav WR currently seem to be in a pretty good place, except new wave -->

What need to be tuned easier
I think new wave is too unrealistic unfortunately. It's a simple level enough that I dare to say it aloud. Current WR - 1 sec feels doable, but barely so.

Apple harvest seems max impsy, but it's so complex level that I wouldn't be surprised if sub 1.10 is achieved some day, so maby it's oke.
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So in Graces opinion people can just throw times here without anyone guestioning them? Labs answered and i was fine with it.
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Thanks for some information :wink2:
I'd be extremely interested in your mind-wonderings and experience on Ramp Frenzy, Zig-Zag, Curvaceous, Tricks Abound and Shelf Life.
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Spef said something on Discord about Int16 new route, and he brainstormed with b0ne. Something about going right, bounce to left, and some impsy 2x wheel pops... So not sure if humanly poss, but in theory it could make target/WR quite lower. My 2c
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