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no death delay

Post by jonsykkel » 1 May 2020, 05:29

assuming u die 500 times a day in elma this could save u 50hours/year
http://zzz.ink/elma/tools/nodeathdelay.exe

btv u cant reconnect with f12 cuz u will get kicked, restart elma if lose connection
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Post by Sla » 1 May 2020, 05:37

I cant try it due to 32 bits system so ok, ill need to buy a new pc eventually. But, is it like okeol and mila's sl tool? Not being allowed to be ready and to press needed buttons for next run meanwhile that little delay, isnt good at all. This was discussed some time ago.

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Re: no death delay

Post by kuchitsu » 1 May 2020, 10:13

Is this legal in finish count battles (or any battles, for that matter)?

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Post by AndrY » 1 May 2020, 11:26

just imo death delay is good thing: you need time to feel emotions from death, understood where u died.
to do it better in next tries.
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Post by Labs » 1 May 2020, 11:47

This causing disconnect from server for me, same others?
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Post by ArZeNiK » 1 May 2020, 11:49

pretty sure that is very much the point given that this would be an unfair temporal advantage
but nice patch
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Re: no death delay

Post by Kopaka » 1 May 2020, 12:22

Even if it may seem harmless we can't allow people to use this online in EOL. There's an unfair advantage in battles, especially in certain battles modes. Furthermore we can't allow edited exe files as it triggers the anti cheat, which could get you banned even if you don't use it in battles or other competitions. Don't worry that we'll ban people who used this so far, but if we can see people continuing we'll have to take action and ask you to go back to the original EOL.exe

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Re: no death delay

Post by ofta » 1 May 2020, 18:40

AndrY wrote:
1 May 2020, 11:26
just imo death delay is good thing: you need time to feel emotions from death, understood where u died.
to do it better in next tries.
you want a program to make your pc restart after every death?

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Re: no death delay

Post by Zweq » 1 May 2020, 21:52

wasn't there a similar patch by smibu already 10 years ago, or was that for belma only. The conclusion was that it shouldn't be used because of 1htt and stuf
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Post by jblaze » 1 May 2020, 21:54

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Re: no death delay

Post by Sla » 2 May 2020, 00:01

Mila sl has it. I asked jon exactly about this thing when i used okeol for 1st time. I was playing a battle and it was very annoying to try to get a decent start (tipic 1st impulse where whell is close to the wall/ground) pressing Right+brake after dying.
I understand if others like that. I just hope to have the option to add the needed timing.

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Post by Hosp » 2 May 2020, 04:40

funny feeling using this program good job i went to die at least 30 times ty
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Re: no death delay

Post by gimp » 1 Jul 2020, 23:31

I think it is cool idea. Maybe would have to be a part of the eolconf for everyone playing to not be considered an unfair advantage, that way all mans could use it and have a turn on/off function if applicable to a battle or lev. It could save time hoyling certain levs, and is therefore overall more efficient for people getting better times in the long run.
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Post by A.K.B. » 2 Jul 2020, 07:38

I remember belma version of this .exe but yes, got discontinued because of advantage.
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Re: no death delay

Post by kuchitsu » 2 Jul 2020, 08:26

Well, make it official and problem solved. If it's available for everyone, it won't be an unfair advantage anymore, right? Seems backwards to ban it instead.

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Re: no death delay

Post by jonsykkel » 2 Jul 2020, 09:11

This modification is hereby and henceforth official

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Re: no death delay

Post by Zweq » 2 Jul 2020, 09:43

Previous statement by "jonsykkel" is declared faulty

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Re: no death delay

Post by Ramone » 2 Jul 2020, 18:35

death/finish needs delay for proper elma feeling. playing 1htt, minihoylas and all TT battles would obv gain alot from this. but it would feel fucken stupid. all speedruns in any fucking game has different kind of delays. which obv is not hacked away. the delays we deal with is so small so for anyone to try and justify it is mind baffling to me.

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Re: no death delay

Post by jonsykkel » 2 Jul 2020, 19:22

I hear what you're saying but blue text

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