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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Orcc » 11 Feb 2012, 09:30

You got points by the amount of kuskis beaten and winner got a little bonus along with that. I think that system could be improved.
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Post by zebra » 11 Feb 2012, 10:23

I'm open for suggestions. Or I think that Kopaka is open for suggestions. He will be the one who makes the statistics. That 100-85-75-pointing system could be ok.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Zweq » 11 Feb 2012, 11:41

mopoballe #31 had 44 players, which seems previous record with a quick peek at the statistics, so I guess awarded pts based on number of beaten players would be imbalanced with the old days. Then again, it was always imbalanced. Then again2, half of the 60 players in previous battle probably didn't even know a) what is a mopobattle b) that the battle was a mopobattle. EOL gives a lot more players automatically.

Btw 19 or 20EET would be better for the russians
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Post by Tigro » 11 Feb 2012, 14:54

Zweq wrote:Btw 19 or 20EET would be better for the russians
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by zebra » 13 Feb 2012, 21:04

Mopobattle 165 was played.

Link: http://elmaonline.net//?s=battles&b=28825

Top 10:
1. Zweq [WNO] 00:43,99
2. Bjenn [EF] 00:46,83
3. NightMar [xXx] 00:47,85
4. finman [NK] 00:48,66
5. Markku 00:48,73
6. GRob [ngt] 00:49,50
7. Xarthok [EPO] 00:49,54
8. Madness [SPEED] 00:50,45
9. jblaze 00:50,87
10. Pab [SV] 00:50,89

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Igge » 13 Feb 2012, 21:19

Dame. Please post a reminder here like 1h before starting next time? :I
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Orcc » 13 Feb 2012, 21:42

I'll update them in #across topic from now on.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by zebra » 13 Feb 2012, 21:43

Thanks Orcc :)

Next mopobattle will be on Sunday at 20.00 EET (one hour earlier). Level by Pab.

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Lukazz » 13 Feb 2012, 21:54

thank you so much for organizing this zebra, amazing lev and rec again
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Post by Tigro » 13 Feb 2012, 22:44

oh no, i forgot about mopoballe!!
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by SveinR » 14 Feb 2012, 01:21

Another points scheme could be the one used in the FIS World Cup contests; where points are awarded to the top 30. They go like this:

100-80-60-50-45-40-36-32-29-26-24-22-20-18-16-15-14-...-1.

In this scheme, vs the MC3 one, a win means more relative to the other podium finishes. Also, points are not awarded to as many players.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Igge » 14 Feb 2012, 07:03

SveinR wrote:Another points scheme could be the one used in the FIS World Cup contests; where points are awarded to the top 30. They go like this:

100-80-60-50-45-40-36-32-29-26-24-22-20-18-16-15-14-...-1.

In this scheme, vs the MC3 one, a win means more relative to the other podium finishes. Also, points are not awarded to as many players.
I think awarding more players would encourage more nabs like me to play. It's always funnier if you can compete with similarly nab friends in who gets most points, instead of both getting 0 every single event.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Zweq » 14 Feb 2012, 09:58

I think elma players are generally more ambitious than 'normal' people, you don't need welfare points.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Igge » 14 Feb 2012, 10:58

I'm not saying I need them, I'm just asking why not? I'd rather get like 5 points, then 3, then 8, then 3 than 0, 0, 2, 0. You can still make winning more beneficial without removing points for the nabs. I'd still play even if only top3 got points, it'd just be a tiny bit less phun.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Orcc » 14 Feb 2012, 12:09

I'd say top 30 is good. It's more rewarding for nabs like you to sometimes achieve those points, insteaf of just getting a couple every round even when driving poorly. How much do you value prizes from those skiing competitions for 5-year-olds where everyone gets a spoon?
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Igge » 14 Feb 2012, 12:25

If enough spoons would eventually allow me to build a super spoon, then I'd be much more excited about that, but I get your point. Frankly, I don't really care. I was just thinking it would encourage other nabs who care more about stats and sach.
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Post by zebra » 14 Feb 2012, 14:09

It depends on the player amount. If we anticipate that we will get over 50 players on average, then ez points for top 50. Otherwise could be top 30.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Kopaka » 14 Feb 2012, 15:31

You might also consider whether apple results should count in stats.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Bjenn » 14 Feb 2012, 17:24

You should finish the level to get points imo!

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by 8-ball » 15 Feb 2012, 01:51

Bjenn wrote:You should finish the level to get points imo!
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by zebra » 19 Feb 2012, 19:54

Mopobattle 166 was played: http://elmaonline.net/?s=battles&b=29274

1. Bjenn [EF] 00:40,10
2. Kazan 00:40,48
3. finman [NK] 00:41,02
4. Zweq [WNO] 00:41,28
5. Lukazz [BAP] 00:41,62
6. Xarthok [EPO] 00:42,34
7. LazY [TAAF] 00:42,63
8. Zero [TAP] 00:42,70
9. Bludek [CART] 00:42,78
10. Ville_J 00:42,89

Nice battle it was and surprisingly top 2 had different styles. Worth to check :)
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Post by ville_j » 19 Feb 2012, 21:16

zebra wrote:Next mopobattle on Friday at 22.00 EET.
Now that's a challenge how far we are willing to go for these balles!
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Bjenn » 20 Feb 2012, 08:29

Last battle was mega nervous! I lead through first half of battle and then Kazan took the lead, my last run was decent and was all about the end which was really hard, 5 seconds before the battle was over I got my first good ending ;D Heart went like crazy =)
Mopobattles surely does not feel like normal ones when playing.

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Post by niN » 20 Feb 2012, 13:03

Bjenn wrote:Last battle was mega nervous! I lead through first half of battle and then Kazan took the lead, my last run was decent and was all about the end which was really hard, 5 seconds before the battle was over I got my first good ending ;D Heart went like crazy =)
Mopobattles surely does not feel like normal ones when playing.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Lukazz » 20 Feb 2012, 14:09

Ville_J wrote:
zebra wrote:Next mopobattle on Friday at 22.00 EET.
Now that's a challenge how far we are willing to go for these balles!
i'm definately out.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Bjenn » 20 Feb 2012, 16:59

Why is next mopobattle so late in the nite?
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Igge » 20 Feb 2012, 17:00

google knows you like elma and mopolauta.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Lousku » 20 Feb 2012, 18:02

Yeu, Google results are different for everyone nowadays.
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?

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Post by zebra » 20 Feb 2012, 21:41

Site updated: http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/mopobattles/events.html

Winners and designers now there visible for all played mopobattles.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Lukazz » 20 Feb 2012, 23:27

very funny to play the very first mopobattles and watch the replay. thx!
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Post by zebra » 24 Feb 2012, 22:15

Mopobattle 167 was played: http://elmaonline.net//?s=battles&b=29575

1. GRob [ngt] 01:03,99
2. Zweq [WNO] 01:05,16
3. finman [NK] 01:06,12
4. adi [MiE] 01:06,62
5. MP [FM] 01:06,98
6. jblaze 01:07,08
7. SveinR [TAAF] 01:07,23
8. Orcc 01:07,25
9. nick-o-matic [MiE] 01:07,29
10. Ismo 01:07,42

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Kopaka » 24 Feb 2012, 23:26

A fixed amount of points like mentioned would probably be good when doing these seasons as I believe we are doing (then could keep the old point system for an overall statistics page aswell). But then maybe a couple compulsory skips, like we've had in some cups which is good if you miss an event, and missing a battle is even easier, so I think it would be good to give everyone an even chance.

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Post by SveinR » 24 Feb 2012, 23:54

Kopaka wrote:But then maybe a couple compulsory skips, like we've had in some cups which is good if you miss an event, and missing a battle is even easier, so I think it would be good to give everyone an even chance.
In that case just do it so that (of those that have played all battles) you erase the worst two results or something. If you have played 8 of 10 battles then, no points will be erased. This is better than people having to choose events to skip.

But I don't think this is really necessary.
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Post by zebra » 29 Feb 2012, 21:07

I agree with SveinR. Selecting 8 best out of 10 is here better than having to skip some battles.

Battle 168 was played: http://elmaonline.net/?s=battles&b=29868

1. GRob [ngt] 00:31,91
2. Zweq [WNO] 00:32,10
3. Madness [SPEED] 00:32,58
4. jblaze 00:33,06
5. Lukazz [BAP] 00:33,07
6. Hosp 00:33,17
7. Bjenn [EF] 00:33,22
8. ScHuMaChEr 00:33,36
9. hehe 00:33,46
10. SveinR [TAAF] 00:33,67

This time it seems that all top 5 used the same style. The next mopobattle will be on Monday at 21 EET. What will be the situation then? We'll see.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by J-sim » 29 Feb 2012, 23:01

zebra, it would be great with a reminder on the day the mopobattle takes place. i don't put the dates in my calendar (i don't have one) or anything like that, and when it's just posted here that there will be a new one in 3-4-5 days i will almost certainly forget it. would be a nice service :wink:

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Post by zebra » 29 Feb 2012, 23:08

ok, i see the problem. I try to remember to remind of the coming mopobattles on the same day as they will happen.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Lousku » 29 Feb 2012, 23:19

Others can put a reminder here as well if zebra forgets or something. =)
then again i don't know anything
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Post by SveinR » 29 Feb 2012, 23:31

Could each Mopobattle be announced on Moposite perhaps? Or would that make the News section too cluttered..

Edit: I see the results of each Mopobattle used to be posted there in the past. One could then easily announce the date for the next at the same time.
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Post by zebra » 1 Mar 2012, 11:56

I feel like spamming if I post results and reminders of each mopobattle to moposite.
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Post by Bludek » 1 Mar 2012, 13:46

you most certainly do not spam if you post those.

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Post by Lousku » 2 Mar 2012, 22:39

Hi, I zipped levs and recs from February. http://www.lousku.net/files/mopobattles164-168.zip
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Post by zebra » 5 Mar 2012, 07:36

Mopobattle today at 21 EET.
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Post by zebra » 5 Mar 2012, 21:38

Mopobattle 169 (Level by Pab) was played and was won by Bjenn.
I can't give battle link now because elmaonline.net is down. But top 10 was:

[21:49:24] <eol-server> 1. Bjenn 42:77
[21:49:24] <eol-server> 2. Lukazz 42:87
[21:49:24] <eol-server> 3. J-sim 44:48
[21:49:25] <eol-server> 4. zweq 44:86
[21:49:27] <eol-server> 5. Stini 45:06
[21:49:30] <eol-server> 6. NightMar 45:12
[21:49:31] <eol-server> 7. Honza 45:14
[21:49:33] <eol-server> 8. Hosp 45:51
[21:49:35] <eol-server> 9. Zero 45:70
[21:49:37] <eol-server> 10. Orcc 46:05

Level was nice and everybody liked the end :)

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Bjenn » 6 Mar 2012, 10:40

Yes, a very end in that nice level, after ~2h extra höyl I managed 39.86 =)

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Lukazz » 6 Mar 2012, 13:19

Bjenn wrote:Yes, a very end in that nice level, after ~2h extra höyl I managed 39.86 =)
rec pls
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Bjenn » 6 Mar 2012, 13:29

Lukazz wrote:
Bjenn wrote:Yes, a very end in that nice level, after ~2h extra höyl I managed 39.86 =)
rec pls
I can share it after I released my next big battle video! Probably will make it next weekend ;D

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by zebra » 11 Mar 2012, 18:11

Today mopobattle at 20.00 EET (in less than hour). Nearly forgot to advertise here :D
A winner of 4 GAA's (mc2 included), winner of mkup206, and a proud member of team TAP.
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by zebra » 11 Mar 2012, 20:07

Mopobattle 170 was played: http://elmaonline.net/?s=battles&b=30566

top 10:

1. adi [MiE] 00:32,50
2. finman [NK] 00:32,85
3. Mielz [SPEED] 00:33,24
4. Zero [TAP] 00:33,26
5. error [27] 00:34,45
6. Ville_J 00:35,17
7. Kopaka [LAME] 00:35,18
8. Moszat [ngt] 00:35,41
9. roope [MiE] 00:35,52
10. MIF [EMA] 00:36,03

Next mopobattle on Wednesday at 21 EET. The level is mine and it's more straightforward (not so much stylefinding, some tricks only).
A winner of 4 GAA's (mc2 included), winner of mkup206, and a proud member of team TAP.
Play uni levels: http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/uni.html
Homepage: http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/elma.html

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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by Tigro » 12 Mar 2012, 13:28

I was not able to be present, so... did you like?
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Re: EOL mopobattles

Post by abruzzi » 12 Mar 2012, 13:32

so bad level, why sach rc accepted?
<Pawq> at a gym you have only 3 options: 1. have your eyes closed, 2. stare at yourself, 3. stare at others, all of which are either super boring or disgusting

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