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The Battle Cup

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Team TAP will soon host a battle cup, 8 events of 1 hour battles. Points will be given as a normal cup and you will only be allowed to play six events. Standings will he hidden to give somewhat of a cupfeeling. More exact rules will be posted later. There will be a variety of levels from TAP members. It will start in around a month.

There will be one event per week so this cup wont need as much dedication as a normal cup, so there is no reason to not take part. Its not decided what day of the week and what time we will start the battles. So please tell what you think is better.

Thanks for reading and I hope you will look forward to this as much as we do!

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Sounds nice!
ramone wrote:you will only be allowed to play six events.
So, will the first 6 results count, or the best 6?

Sunday evening is probably best.
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?
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Good news:) Time? Agree with Lousku. Sunday, about 21:00. But pls no Friday or Saturday.
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sunday definitely best day.
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Sunday worst day.

I think it would be good to have for example one for each day of the week and two on for example Sunday or Wednesday. Don't know if it really matters that much if the events are every 6th, 7th or 8th day.
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Igge, ofc hidden times. Gives more cupfeeling. And six first played. Not six best. If six best points fron earlier events will change and it will be too messy. Some ppl said weekends worst time, ppl away and such. FMs idea seemed good.
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ramone wrote:And six first played. Not six best. If six best points fron earlier events will change and it will be too messy.
I don't see how, it has been done in many (if not most) cups. A better result would only add points, not too messy. But okay.
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?
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this contains the aspect of risk: to play certain level, or to wait for another one?
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Lousku. If six best counts it doesnt only affect the one who improved his results. If someone played all 8 events and got 5th, 5th, 4th, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd and 2nd. His two 5th placements would not count. You cannot only add the difference in points because all who placed under him in event 1 and 2 should get corrected points. Hence messy. The points you have gotten in an event should not be allowed to change over time. No good at all. So you will only be allowed to play six events. If you play more your standing will give no points.
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ramone wrote:If you play more your standing will give no points.
actually this gives ppl a little motivation to play even 7th and 8th event, coz high standings = ppl below you get less points :)

That's nice :)
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ramone wrote:Lousku. If six best counts it doesnt only affect the one who improved his results. If someone played all 8 events and got 5th, 5th, 4th, 4th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd and 2nd. His two 5th placements would not count. You cannot only add the difference in points because all who placed under him in event 1 and 2 should get corrected points. Hence messy. The points you have gotten in an event should not be allowed to change over time. No good at all. So you will only be allowed to play six events. If you play more your standing will give no points.
So if you enter event one for 15 seconds and find you have to leave, you will be in the standings for event one and only be allowed another 5 events?

I know some people are stupid but it's a pretty fucking retarded idea. Cups like this have always been 6 best because it's easier this way.
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ramone wrote:You cannot only add the difference in points because all who placed under him in event 1 and 2 should get corrected points. Hence messy.
basically - dont correcrt those point and leave people at places they get in battle. according to what you said, if someone plays 7th battle (while only 6 allowed) you will have to change worse players' results so it gets messy anyway.
playing 6 events only is kinda unfair - someone may have to leave accidentally or get disconnected and his chances to win the whole are fucked.
also its possible to cheat that sytstem by playing lev in editor and not join if you cant get good time...
6 BEST is easier for players and point-counters and makes more sense in my imo
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Thanks for all the input. Please continue to give feedback. It appreciated. We will take all your Ideas into concideration.
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Haruhi wrote:Cups like this have always been 6 best because it's easier this way.
Some of the first cups with skips were X first played. Personally I like that method better. For X best points calculating becomes complicated in last events (of course easy with some web page or whatever) but hard for the players to see how much they can rise in standings in last event for example. With X first it's more tactical choosing which to play, and it's no advantage to be able to play all. And it's easier to see like, okay this player has played all events he can and won't get points in last etc.

Of course with a cup like this X first can be a problem when it's half hour (or so) events, if you disconnect for 10 mins for example. You could choose not to count non finishes, so at least there is space to check the level without ruining an attempt.
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Kopaka. I think that too. With tactics and choose what events to play etc. So its equal for all. And can easier calculate what standing needed to win etc...

All events will be 60 mins Kopaka.
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Wonderful idea, have you ever considered going into politics?
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The only way to make this even close to fair is to disclude non-finishers.
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Haru, thought about this, but we will have a pipeevent, and not fair to have to finish to get points. And we dont want dif rules on dif events. Thought about if got apple(s) will count. Please keep posting ideas :)
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ramone wrote:Haru, thought about this, but we will have a pipeevent, and not fair to have to finish to get points. And we dont want dif rules on dif events. Thought about if got apple(s) will count. Please keep posting ideas :)
Then you should have at least 10 minutes to work out if you want to play this level or not.
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Did this cup actually happen? Who won?

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Battle Cups in Age of EOL:

Start         Name                    Winner     Organizer(s)
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2013-03-27    The Battle Cup          ?          TAP
2014-12-01    World Battle Cup        Zweq       Ramone & Zero
2016-04-08    World Battle Cup II     Zero       niN
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Abula wrote: 25 Mar 2018, 11:28 Did this cup actually happen? Who won?

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Battle Cups in Age of EOL:

Start         Name                    Winner     Organizer(s)
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2013-03-27    The Battle Cup          ?          TAP
2014-12-01    World Battle Cup        Zweq       Ramone & Zero
2016-04-08    World Battle Cup II     Zero       niN
The cup did not happen! We decided to change the concept to World Battle Cup.

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