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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 6 May 2018, 09:26

Ok, so time to get this project finished!

After so many years I feel like I have some explaining to do. Well I've pretty much had some kind of mental block to working on this project. At some point I started working on it, but after a while I realized I had messed up everything and all the pictures/textures were missing. Then I lost all motivation again... It's not an excuse at all for this having taken so long of course, but I had already told some people I was close to posting an update in lauta, which was quite unfortunate. After this I decided to not give any update or time limits until I had worked a significant amount on the project, and had prepared a plan as well as I can for how to finish it.

I realize I've probably lost some trust because of this whole thing, which is understandable of course. I apologize to everyone who spent their time making a part for the project.

Now I can finally say that I am motivated to work on this again, and I am very excited to see the result! I will contact all of the designated designers for the parts below over the next few days to make sure they are all aware of it. I hope I didn't include anyone who sent their parts, if so I apologize, and please send it again.

Parts who need some minor work (just notes for myself, these designers don't have to do anything):
A04 - Editing required, need arrows to make route clear. Longest part by far, might have to re-evaluate it if the final lev is too long.
B12 - Editing required, needs numbered arrows to make lev clear.
D01 - Editing required, apple too easy to miss.
D03 - Testing required, maybe small edits needed.
F05 - Editing required, too easy to die, too thin hangs.
H04 - Hardest part, might need new.

Timeframe to finish the project:
June 12: Last day for anyone in the list below to send in their part.
June 24: Last day for anyone who is not in the list below, and got a part before June 15 to send in their part.
July 8: Last day for anyone who got a part before July 5 to send in their part.
If there are any missing parts after this, new designers will have have 2 days to make their part.
If possible in the FEM schedule, lev will be released as 60min FF during FEM.

Missing parts, all parts not mentioned below has been accepted:
Deadline July 5:

You'll find your part in this zip: http://kopasite.net/up/x8733ws5eo6ptp2/88.rar

See first post in the topic for rules and guidelines about designing.

You don't need to design anything very intricate when making your part. There are lots of relatively compact and complex parts already. The lev needs some more simple breathers.

If anyone is interested who didn't join the project yet, please wait. I will post here if there will be open parts.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Zero » 6 May 2018, 19:50

Oh dear :D I'll gladly edit H04 if needed
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Lousku » 7 May 2018, 04:30

Supercool and superstoke! It's probably only good that this project had some aging time. I mean... 3 parts from Mawane! Wow!
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Bludek » 7 May 2018, 08:59

Sik nice, dani!

I'm aware now. I have 1 part finished and 1 part semi-finished on my old pc, iirc, will check them later this week, maybe on the nearest weekend.

If someone is super interested, I can ez give them my last slot :) Will check which one it is, though :) :beer:

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Grace » 7 May 2018, 09:15

I've already mentioned to Dani that I'm happy to fill in any slots that people aren't contributing levels for, but i'm happy to simply enjoy the level too.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Orcc » 7 May 2018, 09:48

After I made my part F05 I felt it was too hard (or more precisely it was too easy to die as you said), but since it had already taken a long time for me to make I didn't change it. If you prefer a new one I can redesign it, but if you think you can just edit it it's fine for me as well.

Thanks for continuing with the project, I had been wondering why there was not a single line of status update even though you were active in the scene. Elma life is not that hectic so there's no need to worry :)
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by kuchitsu » 7 May 2018, 14:12

Haruhi wrote:
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I'm happy to fill in any slots that people aren't contributing levels for...
Take my slots please. :)

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Post by AndrY » 7 May 2018, 15:16

Give me 1 too kuchi pls :(
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Orcc » 7 May 2018, 16:53

I think it's safe to say that ville_j won't be making his parts so they're up for grabs
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 7 May 2018, 17:05

Since there are more people interested in joining than parts available, I'll only give parts to people who didn't make any yet, and only one part to each new designer. Please let me know if you don't want to make your part(s) for whatever reason, and I'll redistribute them soon. I hope Kuchi can make one part, would be awesome to have a kuchi part, don't have to take it so seriously, just make some cruise. :D

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by pawq » 7 May 2018, 21:41

Didn't say anything cuz you said we shouldn't say anything, but since other said things, I'll also say a thing: I'd love to make a part =)

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 8 May 2018, 02:19

Kuchi has given away his parts and they are given to:
tej
Haruhi
AndrY

Deadline for these three: June 24

Designers in line for parts:
Sla
pawq

Now you can let me if you are interested, and I'll add you to the list. The first people in the list does not have first right to any new parts. I'll redistribute any new parts randomly to people in the list on may 15.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 17 May 2018, 08:36

Three new designers:
Insane Guy
Sla
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deadline June 24
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Sla » 17 May 2018, 13:48

Making! Good to see the project progressing.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Bludek » 31 May 2018, 10:02

bump for myself *facepalm* :bear:

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 30 Jun 2018, 21:58

There will be hard deadline on July 5 for all designers who are left. I will try to reach out to everyone I can.

Let me know if you made less than 3 parts so far and are willing to make 1 or 2 parts within 10 days after july 5, there will probably be some open parts.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Ruben » 5 Jul 2018, 18:00

Maded my three parts! Hope they're oke. I'm max stoked for this project when it's finished :beer:
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Zero » 6 Jul 2018, 12:35

Dani, there was a problematic part from me (too difficult). H04

Do you have a new one to replace that or should I make something?
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Hosp » 6 Jul 2018, 15:25

If my parts could be sent to me (preferably by Discord PM) I would be happy to delete them/edit/make new because I don't remember the parts and they're probably shitty.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 6 Jul 2018, 15:56

Zero wrote:
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Dani, there was a problematic part from me (too difficult). H04

Do you have a new one to replace that or should I make something?
I think it's fine after all, and it can be driven very safely. It's probably not most deadly part considering that.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by BlaZtek » 14 Jul 2018, 08:38

Status update plz. :D
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by Labs » 14 Jul 2018, 15:48

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Status update plz. :D
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I think i did read somewhere, it will be started while fem, but its already ongoing so... im confused.
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Post by danitah » 14 Jul 2018, 16:11

I'm thinking release will be on wednesday or thursday. Need to figure out where it fits in fem schedule. Hopefully will be able to announce start time tomorrow or monday.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project

Post by danitah » 16 Jul 2018, 19:34

It is fucking time!

Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Spread the word!

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by Bludek » 17 Jul 2018, 15:22

Pls give info and lev and pic of lev and renaults and stuff and such here after balle. Thx!

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by Orcc » 17 Jul 2018, 19:48

So how will this go regarding the 60 minutes battle time? It is likely that many kuskis will keep on playing to finish the lev or is it finishable ez in under 60 mins?

I'll try to find the time to participate myself too!
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by danitah » 18 Jul 2018, 08:13

If drive fairly safe, time should be 50-60min.

I'll make custom results from any finishes after battle is over, so you don't have to rush just to finish within the battle time. I'll be online at least like 4-5 hours after the battle is over, so I should spot any late finishes.

This is also a chance for the people who can't play the lev to get in standings, you can play whenever during the evening.

I will post map image of the whole lev about 30min before the battle starts, since 2min to spy the lev is ofc not enough.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by danitah » 18 Jul 2018, 18:07

It's less than 24 hours to start!

Here's a preview:

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

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Post by danitah » 19 Jul 2018, 17:33

8x8 FF Intro lev is ongoing now! - 8x8Intro.lev

8x8 FF is in queue! Starts in 30min! - 8x8FF.lev

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Post by danitah » 19 Jul 2018, 19:35

Gz to Markku for a great win! Also gz to roope for finish, and to Andry for hypothetical finish! Sadly Zero died because dc and lag while leading about half way through lev :(

Results:
1. Markku 49:36,56
2. roope [MiE] 55:58,40
3. AndrY 6X mins hypothetically
4. Lousku [BAP] 173 apples
5. Jappe2 [EPO] 114 apples
6. Labs [SPEED] 101 apples
7. pawq [TR] 99 apples
8. Lukazz [SLAM] 80 apples
9. nick-o-matic [MiE] 80 apples
10. ROKKEBOL [BAP] 76 apples
11. Mats [TR] 76 apples
12. Haruhi 74 apples
13. veezay [rotaplask] 74 apples
14. Polarix [TR] 69 apples
15. Orcc [IS] 64 apples
16. jonsykkel [BAP] 64 apples
17. adi [MiE] 63 apples
18. Sick_Mambo [EMA] 63 apples
19. ILKKA 54 apples
20. Reefer 52 apples
21. Lammas [Ferrari] 51 apples
22. pseudo 42 apples
23. Ruben [TR] 41 apples
24. Spef [dat] 22 apples
25. tej 19 apples
26. XMen [WE] 17 apples
27. VALDO 17 apples
28. Nekit [EF] 14 apples
29. DIvAn [xXx] 13 apples
30. schnon 10 apples
31. denzar 4 apples
32. Ded [SPEED] 4 apples
33. misz [BBB] 2 apples
34. Chris [Ferrari] 1 apple

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by danitah » 19 Jul 2018, 19:42

Who can guess most designers! :)

Numbered map: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... umbers.png

Put guesses here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... g_game.txt

Send in lauta/discord or wherever I'm online.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by kuchitsu » 20 Jul 2018, 00:31

What is a hypothetical finish in this case?

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by Grace » 20 Jul 2018, 08:54

Andry was in second to last square when 60min battle ended. EOL has a bug where if the battle ends while you're in your FIRST run, you lose the ability to control your kuski. This happened to Andry when battle ended. He almost certainly would have finished if it wasn't for this bug.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by AndrY » 20 Jul 2018, 09:29

Haruhi wrote:
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Andry was in second to last square when 60min battle ended. EOL has a bug where if the battle ends while you're in your FIRST run, you lose the ability to control your kuski. This happened to Andry when battle ended. He almost certainly would have finished if it wasn't for this bug.
sometimes elma become frozen to 2 sec, if play with wifi. me thought it was this:/

ez guess umiz part, mb chris`s also, other are imposs.
btw very interesting who was making 28th part hmm D:
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by kuchitsu » 20 Jul 2018, 10:29

Yeah, when playing super big FFs, you should just esc and reenter immediately on start. But I guess this bug is not very well known.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by Zero » 20 Jul 2018, 11:02

Amazing work with the level! :)

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by pawq » 20 Jul 2018, 12:26

Haruhi wrote:
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He almost certainly would have finished if it wasn't for this bug.
It's not even about this though, he had enough apples to warrant him the 3rd place anyway.

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Post by Hosp » 20 Jul 2018, 18:40

strange im blind cant even find my parts xD
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Post by danitah » 24 Jul 2018, 00:15

7 alternative versions:
8x8FFB.lev
8x8FFC.lev
8x8FFD.lev
8x8FFE.lev
8x8FFF.lev
8x8FFG.lev
8x8FFH.lev

Version B starts at 2nd row, and ends in first. So version B is rows 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1 version C is rows 3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2 etc.

This gives some extra replayability I think, since you don't always have to replay the same starting area.

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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by AndrY » 27 Jul 2018, 17:51

danitah wrote:
19 Jul 2018, 19:42
Who can guess most designers! :)

Numbered map: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... umbers.png

Put guesses here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... g_game.txt

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Post by Hosp » 29 Jul 2018, 04:30

wtf how did redline know which was my part when i didnt
superhuman?
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Post by AndrY » 29 Jul 2018, 08:52

imps redline. asked other ppl mb?:O

btw i sended message to dani, where swapped 19th and 46th guesses, so I guessed 19th too. wtf :?

strange that lousk and redline cant recognize reefer`s part. mega ez.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by Lee » 29 Jul 2018, 14:03

It's interesting to see which parts people think might be mine. Some of those do kind of look like levels I would make :P
Btw, I gave my first part (13) to mawane, but that doesn't change the points, so no matter.
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by BlaZtek » 31 Jul 2018, 17:14

AndrY wrote:
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strange that lousk and redline cant recognize reefer`s part. mega ez.
Cause they probably dosent have the grass shown.
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Post by ROKKEBOL » 1 Aug 2018, 14:30

Ty all, very unexpexted result for me. Was only confident in about 10-15 parts like mine, chris, umiz, blaztek, ramone, zero and mawane.
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Lee wrote:
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It's interesting to see which parts people think might be mine. Some of those do kind of look like levels I would make :P
Sorry, leek, but your levs me guessed randomily:D But even those levs, where I was at least little sure, all were wrong:/ 1 random mawane's have only
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Re: 8X8 Chain FF Project - Thursday, July 19, 20:00 Fin-time start!

Post by Bludek » 12 Nov 2018, 16:47

Is there a winrec/fastest rec for this lev somewhere? higly preferably zamppe.reksors

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