World Cup 7 - Starts on February 19th!
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World Cup 7 - Starts on February 19th!
World Cup 7 will start Feb 2017.
15 events
1 winner
Start making levels, we want them.
More info coming later.
GET STOKED (or go to bed)
Edit: World Cup 7 starts on February 19th!
http://wcup.site/
15 events
1 winner
Start making levels, we want them.
More info coming later.
GET STOKED (or go to bed)
Edit: World Cup 7 starts on February 19th!
http://wcup.site/
Last edited by Ramone on 26 Jan 2017, 23:30, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Yes yes yes!
Will definitely try to submit a lev or two.
Btw are collab levs made by multiple people allowed? Not sure if there has been a precedent.
Will definitely try to submit a lev or two.
Btw are collab levs made by multiple people allowed? Not sure if there has been a precedent.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Def allowed. You can send anything. We will either use or discard.
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
But you can't play a level that you made or cooperated on, can you? That's probably why kuchitsu asked.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
In World Cup it has always been allowed to play your own levels, will be like that for World Cup 7 aswell!
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Yes you can play own levels. Remember MP? One of his hat-trick wins was in his own level.Madness wrote:But you can't play a level that you made or cooperated on, can you? That's probably why kuchitsu asked.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
My computer gave up a few days ago. So if you have any questions, ask kopaka, roope, markku, ville or px.
Also, dont forget the beer!
Also, we need levels. Not only monsterlevels! Basic but cool shit wanted. If not sure can show us a draft or ideas. And we can help out!
Lots of kisses, and get fkn STOKED!!!!
Also, dont forget the beer!
Also, we need levels. Not only monsterlevels! Basic but cool shit wanted. If not sure can show us a draft or ideas. And we can help out!
Lots of kisses, and get fkn STOKED!!!!
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Okay, we've set up an email for you to send your levels in! It's wc7levels@gmail.com.
Of course right now we'd love to get just any kind of submissions. Later we're probably going to inform you guys when we have reached our quota for certain kind of levs, and ask specifically for the kind of levs we need more. Don't be afraid to send in just about anything!
Of course right now we'd love to get just any kind of submissions. Later we're probably going to inform you guys when we have reached our quota for certain kind of levs, and ask specifically for the kind of levs we need more. Don't be afraid to send in just about anything!
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Wait, so roope is on the level choosing team? Who else is there? More info pls, this is interesting.) And you will respond with comments/advice and stuff when we send our levels?
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Yes roope is, who else is we're currently figuring out, we'll give more info as soon as we can, just wanted to get the info about starting time and level gathering out now. And yea coments/advice most likely to some degree.kuchitsu wrote:Wait, so roope is on the level choosing team? Who else is there? More info pls, this is interesting.) And you will respond with comments/advice and stuff when we send our levels?
Also as mentioned before, if anyone wants to take part in arranging please contact me. It won't necessarily mean you can't play, depending on the job.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Just sent a level. I hope the collecting process is going well. If not, we'll have to try harder!
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
I can give a little update on what's going on. Currently Markku, roope and myself (possibly Ramone later) is in the level picking committee. We have started to receive levels, but not a whole lot, so we still need many levels of all kinds. If anyone is up for helping out, we could use one for level picking, one for some kind of hyping/PR in lack of better term and one for participating in general discussion of stuff (those could be the same doing multiple of those). Only the first job will require you to not play the cup.
We have not made any final decisions on format, so if you have any input go to http://mopolauta.moposite.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9518
We hope to have a website up soon, which will be useful for spreading the hype.
We have not made any final decisions on format, so if you have any input go to http://mopolauta.moposite.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9518
We hope to have a website up soon, which will be useful for spreading the hype.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Does that mean roopek won't be able to play the cup? :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( So sad, best competitor for me!
As for hype-generation, how about Ruben? He seems to be doing great with EGP ;)
As for hype-generation, how about Ruben? He seems to be doing great with EGP ;)
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I feel like this thread went completely under the radar, or maybe it's just me.. Anyway, cool! I'll try to make a lev or two at least!
Also, please please please please please please please someone take it upon themselves to make a video for the WC after it's over! I'm still waiting for WC6 vid. :(
Also, please please please please please please please someone take it upon themselves to make a video for the WC after it's over! I'm still waiting for WC6 vid. :(
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
And since it's not mentioned here, do go to #worldcup7 on our Discord or #discord-worldcup7 on IRC (which is a mirror) to discuss this.
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Heh, thanks for the nomination, Pawq. I can do that if it's desireable.Pawq wrote:Does that mean roopek won't be able to play the cup? (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( So sad, best competitor for me!
As for hype-generation, how about Ruben? He seems to be doing great with EGP
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
As for hyping, part of that would be brainstorming ideas to reach the people not in lauta. Those mainly just playing EOL. If anyone has ideas for that, they can just come with them here as well.
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I think I found a relatively successful method for EGP, but it relies on very manual advertising in EOL at all times during they day. I think advertising for WC7 will be easier, because nobody will ask "what is this?" like they do when I advertise EGP.Kopaka wrote:As for hyping, part of that would be brainstorming ideas to reach the people not in lauta. Those mainly just playing EOL. If anyone has ideas for that, they can just come with them here as well.
<veezay> antti also gonna get stabbed later this month
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
My way to advertise GAA last year, script spamming to EOL chat via #irc_eol, was very successful. We got a huge increase in voters in the final phase compared to previous years (of course partly because of rule changes too). Some people were a bit annoyed by this, but I think the good vastly outweighs the bad.
It seems that the pace of levreceiving is slowly but steadily increasing, which is nice; we don't have even close to enough levs for a big enough pool to choose from though. One personal remark: as suspected, I see a lot of these (hard) style/routefinding levs coming in, which is understandable because people want to prove their skills as a designer and have a picture in mind that that's something a cup level should be. Of course those are still important and we'll gladly take those in our inbox, but I'd also like to see people go for something different. Maybe pick some simple theme for a lev: slow, fast, hangs, killers etc.
Also, remember to tell your nick when sending lev (not mandatory ofc but mans could just forget easily), we already got 1 lev from someone whose identity we hev no idea about :>
@Pawq: yeah sorry, of course I also had some willingness to play but I decided it's better this way. Too much commitment for too long time)(
It seems that the pace of levreceiving is slowly but steadily increasing, which is nice; we don't have even close to enough levs for a big enough pool to choose from though. One personal remark: as suspected, I see a lot of these (hard) style/routefinding levs coming in, which is understandable because people want to prove their skills as a designer and have a picture in mind that that's something a cup level should be. Of course those are still important and we'll gladly take those in our inbox, but I'd also like to see people go for something different. Maybe pick some simple theme for a lev: slow, fast, hangs, killers etc.
Also, remember to tell your nick when sending lev (not mandatory ofc but mans could just forget easily), we already got 1 lev from someone whose identity we hev no idea about :>
@Pawq: yeah sorry, of course I also had some willingness to play but I decided it's better this way. Too much commitment for too long time)(
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Agreed. Maybe it's a bit intrusive, but it really does help.roope wrote:My way to advertise GAA last year, script spamming in to EOL chat via #irc_eol, was very successful. We got a huge increase in voters in the final phase compared to previous years (of course partly because of rule changes too). Some people were a bit annoyed by this, but I think the good vastly outweighs the bad.(
Is it too late to implement some kind of MoTD in EOL? Could be used for other things too, such as advertising cups, telling donation status if it's <100%, other important news/upcoming changes, etc. I'm thinking somthing that pops up in the console upon connecting, or an automated personal chat message that's sent when someone comes online?
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
I wonder if X-Moto guys could be interested in the cup. Is that game still going?
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Was that game ever even a thing?kuchitsu wrote:I wonder if X-Moto guys could be interested in the cup. Is that game still going?
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
I remember it having an actual scene - some people jumped over to Elma from there, and IIRC some Elma guys that casually tried Xmoto were owning there. No idea if the scene is still alive though. Cool idea and if someone wants, feel free to promote it over there, but I guess people from outside the scene aren't the main target audience in this. Would be much more important to get active, semi-retired or even retired Elmers to play again :)Ruben wrote:Was that game ever even a thing?kuchitsu wrote:I wonder if X-Moto guys could be interested in the cup. Is that game still going?
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
I'm working on a few levels atm that I think may be alright. The only problem is I'm gonna travel starting 11/11,and I won't be home till 8/12. When is the deadline for submitting levels?
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
I would say end of the year is a good time to aim for. Later than that up until february is still possibly, but at that point things will start to get locked down and you'll have fewer chances.
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Just an idea (dunno if it has already been discussed or not): It would be nice to have spying option completely disabled in World Cup levels. That way even if you forgot to hide, you wouldn't give away your styles.
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this.Madness wrote:Just an idea (dunno if it has already been discussed or not): It would be nice to have spying option completely disabled in World Cup levels. That way even if you forgot to hide, you wouldn't give away your styles.
would be amazing and really good for the cup.
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100% agree. Although some people seem to like to give away styles, or showing off like: "I'm just cruising nab!", it can ruin the fun and challenge for many others.Madness wrote:Just an idea (dunno if it has already been discussed or not): It would be nice to have spying option completely disabled in World Cup levels. That way even if you forgot to hide, you wouldn't give away your styles.
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you should be able to play shown wtf
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In old Russian cups you could get banned from the competition for posting recs, sharing styles on a public forum and stuff like that. There was a case where someone battled a cup level at #battle hoping that "crazy western hoylas" will come up with an awesome style to use, and his results were nullified when this was found out and he was hated by just about everyone. I don't know why it's okay now.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
its always been allowed and always been ok, if you want to share styles its your choice dont care what they did in some 5 player cup in russia in 2003. only time sharing styles has been frowned upon is when someone shares a style privately 1 on 1 and then you share it with others
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Argumentum ad antiquitatem spotted.Vermin Supreme wrote:its always been allowed and always been ok, if you want to share styles its your choice dont care what they did in some 5 player cup in russia in 2003. only time sharing styles has been frowned upon is when someone shares a style privately 1 on 1 and then you share it with others
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
I mean. I think its quite weird to forbid ppl to share style. I mean, ofc can share with friends/teammates/ppl you just colaborate with. Many ppl share styles between teams also when need help (at least thats how it used to be, help here help there) So cant really forbid anyone to show rec/tell style to anyone. But the levels being automaticly hidden during active playtime, that could be a good thing (?) However, then you cant do fun secret areas and other playful stuff untiul after the event. But ofc, no need see that realtime, can upload recs for that too. And this should have lower prio than real hoyling. Or?
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After the event has ended should be unhidden for sure!Ramone wrote:However, then you cant do fun secret areas and other playful stuff untiul after the event.
edit: ah fuck forget that, misread your comment...
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Sharing wcup styles publicly is like coming to a chess tournament and suggesting your strategies to players.
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Can i get unlimited spyingrights? I promise i wont play or share styles. ))
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for me no point to play if cant spy or share styles (with team at least)
also fun to see ppl in lev when it just released
also fun to see ppl in lev when it just released
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fallacy fallacy spottedMadness wrote:Argumentum ad antiquitatem spotted.
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I still don't see why people would want to show off their styles publicly. It ruins half of the fun for others and removes half of the aspect of the cup: to find the best stylefinder. Also it is very easy to accidentally play shown, and even if you do that for just one run there can be 10 guys who immediately see your moves.
Sharing styles with your team is not only allowed but even encouraged, because cups are one of the very few things where team work matters nowadays.
So how about we make this a cup where we can find out exactly who are the best stylefinders and the best höyläs? Too often there are a couple top guys who compete in finding the best style and the others höyl with the semi-good public style. Even in getting into top 30 can be a big achievement for someone and when you can do it with your very own style it will taste even better.
Just let everyone find their own styles.
Sharing styles with your team is not only allowed but even encouraged, because cups are one of the very few things where team work matters nowadays.
So how about we make this a cup where we can find out exactly who are the best stylefinders and the best höyläs? Too often there are a couple top guys who compete in finding the best style and the others höyl with the semi-good public style. Even in getting into top 30 can be a big achievement for someone and when you can do it with your very own style it will taste even better.
Just let everyone find their own styles.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Ye it's very annoying when people are showing styles live, they are like "but this so obvious" when in real life it's not.
For some people specific places in levels can be obvious but for many others they're not.
When one person is helping many other with showing a style or route they will get higher up in the positions, and only the people whom managed to be online at that point. It's unfair and a completely stupid act in a serious competition.
Example: Player 1 is overall better than Player 2. Player 1 plays the best he can and gets position 10 in the results. Player 2 sees anpdad playing live and get a style which he normally wouldn't come up with, hence Player 2 gets position 9, when he rather would have position 11 or worse.
So there will be more random stuff in results if people are showing off live.
I vote for making all levels hidden (visible for teammates if possible). Is this something we can make a poll about and decide upon the results, or is this a "OMG WORLD CUP HAS NEVER HAD HIDDEN EVENTS BEFORE WHY WOULD IT NOW" kind of thing?
For some people specific places in levels can be obvious but for many others they're not.
When one person is helping many other with showing a style or route they will get higher up in the positions, and only the people whom managed to be online at that point. It's unfair and a completely stupid act in a serious competition.
Example: Player 1 is overall better than Player 2. Player 1 plays the best he can and gets position 10 in the results. Player 2 sees anpdad playing live and get a style which he normally wouldn't come up with, hence Player 2 gets position 9, when he rather would have position 11 or worse.
So there will be more random stuff in results if people are showing off live.
I vote for making all levels hidden (visible for teammates if possible). Is this something we can make a poll about and decide upon the results, or is this a "OMG WORLD CUP HAS NEVER HAD HIDDEN EVENTS BEFORE WHY WOULD IT NOW" kind of thing?
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Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
It's not something we can just turn on and off, would need some patching of the server.
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I would enjoy if was option in eolconf like 'always stay hidden everywhere except balles fuka yuu'
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But you can make cup levels hidden, and that is button on/off?Kopaka wrote:It's not something we can just turn on and off, would need some patching of the server.
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We can force times hidden, not the player.Bjenn wrote:But you can make cup levels hidden, and that is button on/off?Kopaka wrote:It's not something we can just turn on and off, would need some patching of the server.
Re: World Cup 7 - Feb 2017
Can anyone contact mila if he would be willing to make a little wcup-patch?
Yes this is something many people seem to not realize in cups. Just how often do you miss an obvious style in battles?Bjenn wrote:Ye it's very annoying when people are showing styles live, they are like "but this so obvious" when in real life it's not.
For some people specific places in levels can be obvious but for many others they're not.
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Re: World Cup 7 - Starts on February 19th!
We're having a little test cup in preperation for World Cup 7, you can use it to get to know the cup system if you haven't played an EOL cup before.
http://elmaonline.net/statistics/cups/11
http://elmaonline.net/statistics/cups/11
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Just for trivia, who made the level?
edit: or nevermind, it's on the page lol)
edit: or nevermind, it's on the page lol)