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'LOM' Questions,Problems And General Disscusion Topic.

Post by Juble »

Well ive seen some LOM topics pop up over the space of a month.

So I made a topic about LOM.

Go to this Topic for theme suggestions:http://moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=721

So use this thread to voice your opinion about this contest!
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AHHH!! it would be the best if I started with my level soon....
this is a problem... I'm always this late....
I gotta do a better level than LEGO..
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didnt make levels for lego, virus, and bounce...
oh no.... i made one for bounce, but didnt send in...
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i didnt made one for lego either...
and i started with virus level this morning :lol:
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:) :) I made a level today!! :) :)
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i dont know if i can create a quality level until tomorrow :cry2:
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Post by Bonobo »

Do you höyl your "Basetimes" much?
I go for one finish and I won't have to see the level anymore..
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i drive as long as i finish it the way its supposed to be finished...
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one finish is enough i think
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It really sucks, when you download some levels, and the designer have totally hoyled the level, so you can not get on the top 10 :(

Basetimes should be easy first finish times, easy to beat, even if you're KyJelly 8)
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Fire this is going to be a hard one to make : (
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I think this is the best theme in a while... but haven't thought of anything
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I bet all levels will have the "Bridge" picture somewhere..
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except mine if i make one....
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first win for insany with his incredible flames :lol:
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oi, but im SO DAMN BORED of editing lately.... i dont think ill make one but....
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in the lom06 level pack subject spices, the last level (number 9), called head over heels, has a major mistake
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is there a december lom theme published somewhere??
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I don't think so HaraldH ... I'm still hopelessly waiting
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ye short space of making a level.

Maybe its time for a theme: hoyla mission :P
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When will LOM be updated. I am waiting for my History lev, it`s soan a year since I maked it
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People entering 2004 LOM?

I made an emotions one, dunno if ill make anymore, to much effort :\
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Post by The_BoneLESS »

Ok, there should definitly be some LOM 2005

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- I'm sure lots of good designers want to create levels but are out of ideas, the LOM competition brings back a lot of inspiration...
- BarTeK will surely take part in it and i'd sure love to see some new levels of his !
- The LOM packs of levels are great, very fun to play
- Everybody in the elma scene enjoy this contest
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I ask a few people if they could organize it. At least I don't have time for it.
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Abula : Maybe you could release a theme now, just in case the LOM thing work :?
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skint0r, psy, me are the raters. Or were. psy and skint0r are not willing to arrange the whole thing.

Should I release a theme eventhough I can't guarantee that it will ever be updated?
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fuck LOM. if the 'officials' of the scene are gonna be bothered to do anything it should be World Cup, not this crap
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Don't call this contest 'crap'. :|
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sierra wrote:fuck LOM. if the 'officials' of the scene are gonna be bothered to do anything it should be World Cup, not this crap
Well it's only px that has really anything to do with the World Cup. And to my knowledge he is bothered ;)
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If interested, I can rate levels. But I don't have the knowledge to update and stuff.. But I would be grateful to help.
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what makes a level playable, as for playability? is a over 4 minute level that is not easy to finish much playable?
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Anonymous wrote:what makes a level playable, as for playability? is a over 4 minute level that is not easy to finish much playable?
I'd say a level is playable when you play it for 30 minutes and you still have fun and want to play it again and again !
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Back to topic, is there gonna be LOM in 2005? or 2006?
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LOM has a saerious problem atm:
It doesn't exist itself.
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there should be someone /nat moposite) who makes this contest
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i have already talked to some levelmakers about arranging LOM-like compo. but when i asked abula he said (between hours of ignoring me :) ) that LOM isn't dead. would be nice to hear clear statement from moposite ppl about teh :?
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Hey, what about a LOM comeback this year ? :D
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A comeback of LOM would be highly appreciated. But maybe first results of 2003 :-I
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yeh

better unrated lvls online then offline
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I'm still sorry I haven't found time for this. I think the levels were released around the GAA04..? We will make the results eventually.
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where were they released?, does anybody got them? :blushes:
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Post by Abula »

Anyone willing to do the LOM 2003 updates? Including organizing the ratings, renaming levels, zipping them and doing results in txt format.

You can't rate own levels though.

Be realistic, it's not the easist job to do. Well, it's easy but needs a lot of time.
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I was thinking about LOM last week and got an idea:

1. In the first phase everybody would have one month time to design a level from certain topic (as it has been before). They send in their levels before the month ends to me or abula or some other who is hosting LOM.

2. Then the host would rename the levels for example D0602A, D0602B, D0602C and so on. Then he would upload the levels to mopolauta and remove designers' names from the levs, so no-one could know who has made them. Then he would make a mopolauta poll about the level of month (just like kuski of month is done).

3. After the voting the level's designers would be published and levels renamed in order D0602L01, D0602L02 ... according to the points they got.

pros:
1. Like this the community would be allowed to vote for the level they want. Level Of Month's wouldn't be anymore some kind of unseen levs, but rated by the community.

2. Levels would be played more (when people would be rating the levs)

3. The hosting wouldn't be anymore such an arduous job (as we can see, it has already taken 3 years to abula to make it)

cons:
1. The rating wouldn't be so detailed anymore. In previous LOM's there was different kinds of points and suchs, now there would be just one vote to give.

2. Some people could give a random vote for the levels without even trying them.

Still, i think this idea is worth trying.


Though, best idea would be to make a php site where everyone could give points from 1 to 10 to all of the levels, but we don't have that kind of site yet (maybe the new moposite will have it some day ;))
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Post by teajay »

You have found at least an alternative that could work zebra. I thoughed about this issue myself and wondered how this could be solved. In fact, I found it near impossible. But this idea you have seems good enough. Though I think there should be some sort of registration before you can vote, and perhaps some rules could be added there.

Ofcourse there shouldn't be any case of people sending in levels with there nicks written in it. Sure it is possible to work out who made which level. It's impossible to make this stuff 100% foolproof.

At least I support this.
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zebra wrote:Though, best idea would be to make a php site where everyone could give points from 1 to 10 to all of the levels, but we don't have that kind of site yet (maybe the new moposite will have it some day )
Isn't that exactly the definition of viper killerguy's site ?
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I think the pointing of that system would be too far off from the original. Weren't there given points in all of three categories; theme, playability and visuality. Also there were points for the best level name. This would be too simplistic, I feel.
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maybe make LOM section of vk's level sharing site?
And what about level maker reveeling which his lev is? And maybe dyrox reveals that sum level is his (while it is not) and that level gets max less points.
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Me and eL made a level contest pretty much like this sometime ago (maybe two years). Not many ppl voted, 10 at the most I think. (it's even still online)
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Post by zebra »

You know the place and arranger matters.
With mopolauta there would be ez much more voters.
And if Abula advertised and hosted it, then it would be a success.
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Post by A.K.B. »

Yes, LOM needs to come back, so us Lev Makers get to imprint ourselves in the scene again.... :cry:
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