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Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by ROKKEBOL » 13 Mar 2020, 19:19

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at least 93% will alive
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by kuchitsu » 13 Mar 2020, 21:44

Ugh, I'm willing to pay for a browser extension that hides posts about it from social media. Getting quite tired of this media virus.

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by pawq » 14 Mar 2020, 00:52

ROKKEBOL wrote:
13 Mar 2020, 19:22
https://coronavirus.zone/
Out of date by a few days. Here good site posted by arze on discord, updated pretty much in real-time:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


ROKKEBOL wrote:
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will we all die?
suar, just be patient


Also, if anyone wants a good analytical no-bs read:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavi ... d3d9cd99ca

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Post by jblaze » 14 Mar 2020, 05:16

to answer the topic question: i hope so ;]
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Marcin wrote:
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"so many people are panicking over the coronavirus [and not this]" because even neglecting the death rate, 162/195 countries is a significantly larger dpreading area than west africa
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AndrY wrote:
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at least 93% will alive
unless the virus mutates into a stronger and more deadly form, which it has been reported having done before
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Post by milagros » 17 Mar 2020, 14:10

china did a total shutdown of the Hubie province of 58M people, when they had 440 cases and 17 dead (decision made 21/1, valid from 22/1)
based on the data (integrating "new" cases backwards based on the distribution of time of showing symptoms), this really stopped the virus, but despite that it led to 80k cases and 3.2k dead (so far)
comparable restrictions, but still weaker, have been made by european countries of similar size, when the total number of cases was in thousands and dead in hundreds

so my guess is that in 2 weeks the health system in several countries (italy, spain, france, england, possibly switzerland, germany, maybe many more) will collapse, deathrate raises to 10% and there will be hundreds of thousands dead everywhere
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milagros wrote:
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china did a total shutdown of the Hubie province of 58M people, when they had 440 cases and 17 dead (decision made 21/1, valid from 22/1)
based on the data (integrating "new" cases backwards based on the distribution of time of showing symptoms), this really stopped the virus, but despite that it led to 80k cases and 3.2k dead (so far)
comparable restrictions, but still weaker, have been made by european countries of similar size, when the total number of cases was in thousands and dead in hundreds

so my guess is that in 2 weeks the health system in several countries (italy, spain, france, england, possibly switzerland, germany, maybe many more) will collapse, deathrate raises to 10% and there will be hundreds of thousands dead everywhere
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by kuchitsu » 18 Mar 2020, 08:58

I think a couple of thousands will die but hundreds of millions will suffer from stress caused by the panic, and the total human lifespan reduced by that stress will be much higher compared to the deaths. The main danger here isn't getting sick but letting the virus damage your mental wellbeing.

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Post by ArZeNiK » 18 Mar 2020, 11:52

milagros wrote:
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so my guess is that in 2 weeks the health system in several countries (italy, spain, france, england, possibly switzerland, germany, maybe many more) will collapse, deathrate raises to 10% and there will be hundreds of thousands dead everywhere
the italy health system can barely hold on, they announced somewhere that there is very not place in hospitals anymore in lombardy
deathrate that was previously just 3% reached an oscillative 4% yday so yes thats very possible
not only the thousands dead everywhere, but also the projected downfall of the economy in multiple countries (even ro as far as i've heard pros speak) will prolly follow
hopefully china and south korea actions that have restricted covid2019 in the respective actions and china's voluntary help offering to other countries will help keep this sutiation somewhat under control (but i doubt it will be fully managed)
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Post by milagros » 18 Mar 2020, 12:39

kuchitsu wrote:
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I think a couple of thousands will die but hundreds of millions will suffer from stress caused by the panic, and the total human lifespan reduced by that stress will be much higher compared to the deaths. The main danger here isn't getting sick but letting the virus damage your mental wellbeing.
mental stress from dead relatives would be much higher than from some virus info
if nobody does anything, it could easily end up with 200M dead
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Post by Madness » 18 Mar 2020, 20:27

Too overhyped by the media. Lots of people don't even have any symptoms so they don't get tested, most people who have symptoms don't get tested because they are just recommended to stay at home, so the actual mortality rate is probably WAY under 1%, similar to the flu. But yeah, give it a scary name, call it "deadly" in every headline and play some scary music every time you mention it on TV over and over again and sheeple will all go and trample each other to death while trying to buy toilet paper for 100 years ahead.

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by pawq » 18 Mar 2020, 22:50

Well, you two have just proven that you have absolutely no clue about what's going on. Read the entirety of this article, then it may be worth conversing with you about this.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavi ... d3d9cd99ca

More info:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... f-covid-19
"Sophisticated modelling of the outbreak suggests that China had 114,325 cases by the end of February 2020, a figure that would have been 67 times higher without interventions such as early detection, isolation of the infected, and travel restrictions." (This would comfortably result in six digit deaths)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... as-changed
"the mitigation strategy, as they called it – or scenario 1 – that the government had just announced would lead to 260,000 deaths." (This is for the UK alone)

Plus about a million articles and analyses that show why the scale and danger from this pandemic is worse than anything in the last few decades. If nobody did anything, it could easily result in millions of deaths. By introducing very severe measures, we can perhaps limit it to tens of thousands.

Even trump and fox news by now admitted that it's a worldwide crisis, so congratulations guys, you're even slower than those retards.

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Re: similar mortality rate to flu:
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Now multiply these numbers by the prevalence of flu in the world, because that's what we could get with no travel restrictions and isolations with how fast this virus spreads.

edit 2:
Of course all this doesn't mean that we should panic. But it does mean that underestimating or dismissing this issue may result in immeasurable losses, and not just financial. If you think the financial impact is bad now, imagine what it would be if the virus spread to 90% of the world, and killed up to millions.

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Madness » 19 Mar 2020, 00:20

pawk wrote:
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Of course all this doesn't mean that we should panic.
Glad you agree, because that was my point. Nobody said this issue should be dismissed.

The figures might look scary, but you know what, about 150,000 people die every single day, that's over a million dead people every week. That's life. Think about it.

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Coronavirus epidemic in China: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

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Post by milagros » 19 Mar 2020, 13:25

nowadays the number of people in Lombardy that die a day because of coronavirus (i think it was 313 yesterday) is higher than the normal number of deaths per day (around 280) for any other reason
add to the problem that 20% of ppl need treatment and hospitals are full
anyway, I'm quite sure european restrictions will not be sufficient and we will see this everywhere
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Post by nick-o-matic » 19 Mar 2020, 15:27

The death rate is not mega high indeed, but imo many ppl are forgetting that for every death there is going to be several crippled survivors with fuked lungs or other health problems, and they are going to need extra support from society for rest of their lives. Norm influenza does not cause this kind of stuff.

This virus is so mega ez spread that seriously nearly everyone are going to get it if life continues normally. Even if 50+% are not really affected, many are, which leads to total chaos in the health care system, as happened in north Italy. Spanish flu did not have very sik death rates itself either, the death toll was still as high as 100 million bc many people (who would have ez survived in a good hospital environment) died because of starvation/dehydration/other infections when the health care system was collapsing.

This is spreading much more freely in some other countries than EU ones atm. In some weeks or at least months we will which countries have had the best approaches, and whether or not some countries have overreacted.

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Corona Virus timeline

CHINA Nov, 2002: After its experience with the SARS outbreak in Guangdong Province in 2002, China implemented a rapid response protocol for infectious diseases. The protocol empowered the Health Ministry to assemble professional and managerial help from across the country, established an emergency response coordinating team, prepared funding and authorization for supplies, equipment and emergency health care facilities, anticipating that existing hospitals would be overwhelmed.

USA April, 2004: Patent Application

USA Nov, 2006: Patent SARS coronavirus. Abstract: An outbreak of a virulent respiratory virus, now known as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), was identified in Hong Kong, China and a growing number of countries around the world in 2003. The invention relates to nucleic acids and proteins from the SARS coronavirus. These nucleic acids and proteins can be used in the preparation and manufacture of vaccine formulations, diagnostic reagents, kits, etc. The invention also provides methods for treating SARS by administering small molecule antiviral compounds, as well as methods of identifying potent small molecules for the treatment of SARS.

USA Sep 2008: Though the first cases of H1N1 swine flu were reported in California and Texas in late March, 2009, subsequent genetic analysis suggests that it began six months before it was first detected, in September, 2008, at the start of the ‘flu season. The CDC admits, below, that earlier Covid-19 cases went undetected, too

USA & NETHERLANDS Dec 2011 Researchers studying a potentially more lethal, airborne version of bird flu have suspended their studies because of concerns the mutant virus they have created could be used as a devastating form of bioterrorism or accidentally escape the lab.

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UK, Saudi Arabia, Jordan Feb/Mar 2013 New Mystery Virus kills 9th Victim, This virus is in the family of coronaviruses, a new virus, previously unknown to mankind, Symptoms of the disease consist of respiratory distress, fever, coughing and difficulty in breathing.

USA Jul, 2015: Patent application lodged for attenuated coronavirus by The Pirbright Institute (UK), application granted November 2018.

USA Jun, 2017: World Bank issues Pandemic Bonds for emergency pandemic financing and pandemic insurance.

USA May, 2018: The President Fires the entire US Pandemic Response Team and does not replace it.

USA Nov 2018: Patent application for attenuated coronavirus (see July 2015) granted.

USA Apr, 2019: An outbreak of severe vaping-associated lung illness is exclusively confined to the United States, despite the fact that the majority of vapers live outside the US.

USA Jul 3, 2019: The CDC halts research at Fort Detrick, citing “national security reasons” for not releasing information about its decision.

USA Jul 14, 2019: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation. Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public. The first Chinese to discover or warn about the Covid-19 outbreak?

AUSTRALIA Aug, 2019: Australia Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza released.

USA Aug, 2019: First Vaping Death Reported by Health Officials “Amid the lack of information, investigators scrambled to find shared links to the respiratory problems. Officials said earlier this week that many patients, most of whom were adolescents or young adults, had described difficulty breathing, chest pain, vomiting and fatigue,” the precise symptoms of Covid-19 infection.

USA Sep 2019: Recently (2020), a team of Chinese researchers claimed to demonstrate that Covid-19 was born in September, 2019. The British researchers who had discovered the earlier H1N1 date are not convinced.

USA Oct 18, 2019: The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. Event 201 simulated an "outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic that leaves 65 million dead.

CHINA Oct 27, 2019 At a peak of international tension and the ‘flu season in the northern hemisphere, on the eve of China’s biggest travel season, 300 American military servicemen visit Wuhan for the International Military Games.

USA Dec, 2019. A Chinese medical researcher is arrested in Boston trying to take biological samples back to China. Zheng Zaosong, of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, confessed to taking material from a lab in Boston. FBI Special Agent Kara Spice found 21 wrapped vials containing a “brown liquid” that appeared to be “biological material” (samples of post-mortem lung tissue look like ‘brown liquid’). Zheng’s roommate, also a researcher, told FBI agents that two labmates of Zheng had succeeded in getting specimens to China. China, presumably, now went on high alert.

USA/CHINA Dec 2019: Chinese researchers in the USA informed China’s Health Ministry of a novel Coronavirus outbreak there, triggering a readiness alert nationwide. The WHO describes what happened next, “In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile, and aggressive disease containment effort in history…China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic.”

CHINA Dec 26, 2019: Jixian Zhang detects four anomalous pneumonia infections in Wuhan and reports them to the provincial CDC the next day. The provincial authorities immediately inform the national CDC which prepares to implement the pandemic response protocols.

GERMANY Dec 25-Dec 31, 2019: Charité (clinic in Berlin) starts developing test for the new Corona virus after first informal information reaches them. Later sends prototype to China, "unnamed colleagues" in China confirm that it works. WHO then publishes the test on its website as the first test. China develops own test, but demand is high elsewhere - even in Southeast Asia.

CHINA Dec 30, 2019: China’s national CDC notifies the WHO

CHINA Dec 31, 2019: WHO reports Zhang’s discovery to the world.

MALAYSIA Jan 5, 2020: Malaysia’s Assistant to the Prime Minister, Matthias Chang, speculates that the US is waging biological warfare on China.

USA Jan 6: Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, M.D., senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, agrees, “We are on track to have a season like the 2017-2018 season,” when 80,000 Americans died of flu complications. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus

CHINA January 7: China identifies the virus as 2019-nCov and confirms it five days later. President Xi tells officials that the country is on a ‘war footing’

USA Jan 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus

USA Jan 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China

CHINA Jan 13: China makes the first 2019-nCov test kits available.

USA Jan 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles

USA Jan 19: A 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China. Apart from a history of hypertriglyceridemia, the patient was an otherwise healthy nonsmoker. On January 20, 2020, the CDC confirmed that the patient’s nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs tested positive for 2019-nCoV. By Jan. 30, the patient’s symptoms had resolved, according to a New England Journal of Medicine paper. Snohomish County officials allowed him to leave home isolation three weeks later.

USA Jan 20: Dr Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus

USA Jan 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response

USA Jan 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test

CHINA Jan 25: Construction begins on a 1,000 bed intensive care hospital in Wuhan.

CHINA Jan 26: China extends Spring Festival holiday to contain the outbreak.

USA Jan 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus

USA Jan 28: Harvard Chemistry Professor Arrested, Handcuffed, And Accused Of Lying About Ties To China. Charles Lieber, Chair of Harvard’s Department of Chemical Biology, led a Chinese research group focusing on the use of nanotechnology to identify viruses.

USA Jan 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President

USA Jan 31: The Trump Administration:Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency; Announced Chinese travel restrictions; Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus. The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports

USA Feb 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government

USA Feb 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus

CHINA Feb 5: First patients moved into new 1,000 bed intensive care hospital.

USA Feb 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs

USA Feb 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington

USA Feb 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine

USA Feb 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials; The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government

USA Feb 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus

USA Feb 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections

CHINA Feb 23. Chinese scientists found genomic evidence that the seafood market in Wuhan was not the source of the novel coronavirus. Their genetic data suggests the virus was introduced from elsewhere and had already circulated widely among humans in Wuhan before December 2019, probably beginning in mid- to late November.

USA Feb 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus

USA Feb 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India

CHINA Feb 27: On Taiwan TV a prominent virologist explained flow charts suggesting that the coronavirus originated in the US.

USA Feb 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications. The Trump Administration:Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea; Barred all travel to Iran; Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days

USA Mar 3: The Director General of the WHO announced: "While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected." This was patently false. The coronavirus mortality rate reported by the media as stated by Dr. Ghebreyesus is completely inaccurate as all subsequent numbers show. The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.” The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus!

CHINA Mar 4: February rail freight loadings rise 4.5% YOY.

USA Mar 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of $500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus. Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus

CHINA Mar 5: Shipments to foreign JIT customers upgraded: government subsidizes upgrades from sea to rail delivery and from rail to air delivery.

USA Mar 6: Question: How did the virus come to the United States? Answer: “The first known patients in the U.S. contracted the virus while traveling in other countries or after exposure to someone who had been to China or one of the other affected areas. But now, a few cases here cannot be traced to these risk factors. This is concerning because it suggests the illness may be spreading across communities for which the source of infection is unknown, which we call community spread/transmission. Dr. Emily Landon, spokesperson, U Chicago School of Medicine. President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak. The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions

USA Mar 9: HHS staffers often weren’t informed about coronavirus developments because they didn’t have adequate clearance. He said he was told that the matters were classified “because it had to do with China.”

USA Mar 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus

USA Mar 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing

USA Mar 11: White House classifies coronavirus deliberations. The meetings at HHS were held in a secure area called a “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility,” or SCIF, usually reserved for intelligence and military operations. HHS has SCIFs because theoretically it would play a major role in biowarfare or chemical attacks.

USA Mar 11: President Trump: Announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days; Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on congress to increase this fund by $50bil

CHINA Mar 10: Government organizes and subsidizes bus, rail and air transport for two hundred million migrant workers to return to urban jobs.

USA Mar 12,: CDC director Robert Redfield admits to a House Oversight Committee that some Americans who were diagnosed as dying from influenza tested positive for Covid-19 posthumously.

CHINA Mar 13: Chinese FM’s Lijian Zhao demands US authorities reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19. “When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be the US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make your data public! The US owes us an explanation!”

CHINA Mar 16: Ninety percent of businesses expected to resume full operations. All Apple stores open.

USA Mar 18: HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines

CHINA Mar 19: No new corona virus cases.

USA Mar 19: President Trump Announced: Very encouraging progress shown by anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine for fighting coronavirus; Carnival Cruise Lines will make ships available for use as hospitals in impacted areas to use for non-coronavirus patients; Vice President Pence announced tens of thousands of ventilators have been identified that can be converted to treat patients; The State Department issued a global level 4 health advisory, telling Americans to avoid all international travel due to coronavirus; President Trump directed FEMA to take the lead on the Federal Government’s coronavirus response & visited FEMA HQ with Vice President Pence for a video call with Governors

USA Mar 20: The U.S. and Mexico agreed to mutually restrict nonessential cross-border traffic; Secretary Mnuchin announced at the direction of President Trump that tax day will be moved from April 15 to July 15 for all taxpayers and businesses; President Trump: Spoke with Sen. Schumer about coronavirus response & stimulus measures; Held a call with over 12,000 small business owners to discuss relief efforts; Announced the CDC will invoke Title 42 to provide border patrol with tools to secure the borders. The Department of Education announced it will: Not enforce standardized testing requirements for the remainder of the school year; allow federal student loan borrowers to stop payments without penalty for 60 days. Secretary Azar announced: FEMA is coordinating and assisting coronavirus testing at labs across the country; The CDC is suspending all illegal entries to the country based on the public health threat, via Section 362 of the Public Health & Security Act; sent a letter to all 50 Governors announcing that the federal government is buying and making available 200,000 testing swabs
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by gimp » 21 Mar 2020, 01:11

I live in California (USA). Today our governor ordered everyone whose job is non-essential to start staying home and quarantining. So streets are quite dead, all bars and restaurants closed. What are your respective countries doing right now? How has your life been impacted?
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I live in California (USA). Today our governor ordered everyone whose job is non-essential to start staying home and quarantining. So streets are quite dead, all bars and restaurants closed. What are your respective countries doing right now? How has your life been impacted?
ro here, schools are closed down until easter and we have online classes and lots of assignments, shops are pretty empty and only a select few can enter at once, national emergency situation issued by president this monday osv osv
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by kuchitsu » 21 Mar 2020, 19:00

Here a lot of people are moving to working/studying online and big events are all cancelled, but for me nothing really changed since I already work from home. I'm still able to buy all groceries and stuff that I want, to take walks in the park where I breathe fresh air and feed ducks and look at squirrels, to go to cinema and restaurants, to meet friends (just like me, most of them are pretty chill about the whole situation), etc. The streets are emptier I guess, which I'm actually enjoying a lot: I get the convenience of living in the capital city without the annoyance of crowded trains and shit. I think people are also generally nicer right now: there is this feeling of going through the rough times together and supporting each other. Personally, I try to wear colorful clothes and to smile as much as possible in an attempt to make the atmosphere more pleasant for others.



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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

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This fake pandemic has been in planning since 2010 with specific goals in mind. Watch and share this amazing short video: https://youtu.be/dxa8xo9iug0

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by ArZeNiK » 22 Mar 2020, 20:18

Marcin wrote:
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This fake pandemic has been in planning since 2010 with specific goals in mind. Watch and share this amazing short video: https://youtu.be/dxa8xo9iug0
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Marcin » 22 Mar 2020, 20:35

A: The virus did not appear first in China. There were experiments at Fort Detrick regarding the creation of a vaccine that would make humans more controllable. This vaccine had unexpected effects and in some cases did the opposite of what was intended. The strain escaped into a population and further mutated. Indeed it was carried to China by US soldiers. China soon knew the type and origin and launched a massive campaign to control the situation. This was seen by Western powers as a good model to follow with additional add-on factors. In the meantime further mutations have occurred, some engineered via STO forces by virtue of the virus taking hold in certain persons whose spiritual force was able to direct the progression. At this point, there are two major strains. The elite need to stop the spread of that which they "created".
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Tigro » 22 Mar 2020, 20:54

Can someone pls ban this Marcin dude? What he is doing here is punishable by prison in my country, and several others.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by pawq » 23 Mar 2020, 02:39

I was very tempted to say that, but don't think it's worth the potential shitstorm. I hope most people here can just ignore his bullshit.

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Post by ROKKEBOL » 23 Mar 2020, 12:32

gimp wrote:
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I live in California (USA). Today our governor ordered everyone whose job is non-essential to start staying home and quarantining. So streets are quite dead, all bars and restaurants closed. What are your respective countries doing right now? How has your life been impacted?
Yes, same here, they closed all restaurants, cafes, mcdonalds, malls, big shops, supermarkets, barbershops, swimming pools, parks and other public places. If one would appear in public place without mask will be imposed $23 penalty for 1st time, 2nd — $70. Most work places were closed, people taking 40% of their regular salary for doing nothing. People dont go outside, stay at homes. Also noone can enter/quit the city, and railway stations and airport dont work. It is very weird to see empty streets of 2kk city, lol. Picrelated

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Madness » 24 Mar 2020, 08:09

Last time I saw an empty street like that was when I sneezed.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by milagros » 25 Mar 2020, 05:15

1. corona virus is real and has a potential to kill millions, if nothing is done
2. governments will use this situation to impose new laws and rules to get better control
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Chris » 25 Mar 2020, 11:18

The effects of the pandemic might last for years. Global economy will tank and the recovery might be painful process. Even the isolation might be difficult to sustain in a long run. Some say we might need 1 year of such? Companies might start to bankrupt en masse, people will be laid off. If people are not paid, what are they going to do? Patiently sit at home without money for living? We are in big trouble unless we can quickly stop the virus from spreading.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by nick-o-matic » 25 Mar 2020, 15:18

World economy does not look like good indeed in the big scale. And tourism will not be the same until the last corona patient has been recovered, which will take a long time, perhaps years. Perhaps the opening of borders will happen very slowly, and only between countries who have completely got rid of corona, keeping entries from corona countries banned.

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Madness » 26 Mar 2020, 13:20

Why would it take years? They will develop a cure and vaccine soon. In one year's time everybody will have long forgotten about this stupid coronavirus.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Madness » 26 Mar 2020, 13:31

gimp wrote:
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Today our governor ordered everyone whose job is non-essential to start staying home and quarantining. So streets are quite dead, all bars and restaurants closed. What are your respective countries doing right now? How has your life been impacted?
Same here in the UK, but they don't really enforce it, so streets are not so dead here. People just ignore it and pretend they are not worried. Then they go and panic-buy all the toilet paper and pasta and stuff.

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by gimp » 26 Mar 2020, 16:23

At what point does the negative impact on the economy outweigh the negative impact the corona virus can do biologically to the human race?

Will you support isolation if your water shuts off? If your life savings fall 75% in the stock market? If crime increases and looting begins? If your best friends' dream small business fails?

The list of economic issues is endless, and indirectly will cause lives lost as well, perhaps more than the real death rate of the corona virus.

I recognize my country may be more fragile to this sort of pandemic, and afraid may even be more violent in its' reaction. I am wondering what the lesser of two evils is. The numbers suggest we go back to work and just be as sanitary as we can. some people have lost water in my neighborhood today.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by pawq » 26 Mar 2020, 19:43

Your country is more susceptible because the government doesn't give a flying fuck about protecting the bulk of its population. The goal is not to lock down permanently and starve to death, but to lock down as early and decisively as possible, contain the outbreak quickly with minimised losses, then go back to normal and work to recover the financial losses while enjoying the company of the loved ones that are still alive.

And the "numbers"? They suggest that if we go back to normal, millions would die worldwide, and that would have gigantic financial ramifications too. And being "sanitary" wouldn't change this one bit.

Can start asking such questions after we've been in lock down for half a year or sth and it's still not slowed down, but if all govts acted quickly and together, that wouldn't be possible. Sadly, with retard governments like in the US or in Brazil, it might just get to that.

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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by milagros » 26 Mar 2020, 20:47

I guess the genie is out of the bottle now, so it's going to be interesting.
About those economical reasons not to do anything: it's not that 5% die and the rest is just fine. Even people in the best shape are not able to work for a month, so having lockdown for a month is clearly better. However, now it's too late, it could have been done properly early, now it will be all fucked.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Grace » 27 Mar 2020, 04:08

I totally agree with milagros on all points on this topic.

Chance to do a proper response has passed. Australia and the USA have fucked their responses up quite severely. Will be yucky to see the results.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by gimp » 27 Mar 2020, 04:31

We should remember the death rate is not 5%, that may be the rate of those who have been tested, but we do not know the actual death rate, nor how many people have it in every country. The stats are dependent on available testing.
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by AndrY » 27 Mar 2020, 06:31

ArZeNiK wrote:
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AndrY wrote:
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at least 93% will alive
unless the virus mutates into a stronger and more deadly form, which it has been reported having done before
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by Zweq » 27 Mar 2020, 07:17

there are probably millions of cases, most are not tested
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Re: Corona Virus: will we all die?

Post by ArZeNiK » 27 Mar 2020, 11:41

Zweq wrote:
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there are probably millions of cases, most are not tested
probably
ro just bought about 200k tests and considers it a breakthrough
(ro has ~20mil people)
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