which came first

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 14 Apr 2007, 18:24

i know but i'm not telling you!

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 14 Apr 2007, 18:31

Can I say then?

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 14 Apr 2007, 21:47

Once there was an animal which was slightly more lizard (or something) than chicken, and it laid an egg wiht slightly more chicken than lizard genes. From this egg came the first animal that's more chicken than anything else.

Hence the (chicken) EGG came before the chicken.

This is only one of several solutions.

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 15 Apr 2007, 02:09

ez god made teh egg

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 15 Apr 2007, 02:22

-Or you can just say a dinosaur egg came before a chicken egg.

@AKB: Which came first? God or Humans?

I'd say Humans, since they where the ones who made up god.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 15 Apr 2007, 02:53

Igge wrote:Which came first? God or Humans?
I'd say Humans, since they where the ones who made up god.

Well said!

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 15 Apr 2007, 07:32

or it was God who made up teh humans.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 15 Apr 2007, 10:07

or maybe neither exists ;o

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 15 Apr 2007, 11:53

How philosophical..

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 15 Apr 2007, 12:31

the half fish half chicken creature that the scientists say was revolution and yet i am still yet to see the fossils of this mythical tasty dish.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 15 Apr 2007, 17:22

What is the definition of a chicken? A creature that hatches from an egg. For a chicken to exist, there needs to be an egg. Therefor the egg was first. God created the egg ofcourse, or some animal that we might call the proto-chicken.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 15 Apr 2007, 18:26

Man makes up a god, and claims that that god made up man.

"Thou shalt not believe in any other god" (or something like that)

Jesus was 100% man, and 100% god. 100%god means that he was a god.

So god doesn't want the people to blieve in jesus?

there are so many paradoxes in the bible. There are even 2 ways of how man was created.. I mean c'mon, choose one, or do you want us to believe both?

God doesn't exist, hence he didn't create a chicken out of thin air. And the first chicken was only a mutaded some-other-kind-of-bird, and that chicken came out of an egg, hence the egg was first.

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 16 Apr 2007, 02:24

Juble wrote:the half fish half chicken creature that the scientists say was revolution and yet i am still yet to see the fossils of this mythical tasty dish.

Jessica Simpson's worst nightmare

Staar · Post by **Staar** » 16 Apr 2007, 06:49

Igge wrote:God doesn't exist, hence he didn't create a chicken out of thin air.

u can't denie Gods existence

Staar · Post by **Staar** » 16 Apr 2007, 06:51

edit. fak dabelpast

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 16 Apr 2007, 14:26

god created humans, who created god, who created animals (therefore, the chicken)

why would he bother making an egg first?

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 17 Apr 2007, 08:57

The_BoneLESS wrote:god created humans, who created god, who created animals (therefore, the chicken)

why would he bother making an egg first?

I got a bit mixed up there, I thought you said that humans created animals.

Maybe he felt like making an egg first? That's why we pose the question, because it doesn't say anywhere which came first specifically, I love this rhetorical question.

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 17 Apr 2007, 15:29

It's all about evolution. As said before, a close relative to a chicken laid an egg which hatched into a spicies more of a chicken, and less of the original species. Although this didn't happen over one generation, it slowy changed over hundreds of years, so you cant say the exact moment when it becamse a chicken, and therefore, there is no exact answer to the question.

But the chicken - the exact animal that a person discovered and named a spiecies "chicken" after, came out of an egg before beeing discovered, so I guess you can say the egg was first.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 17 Apr 2007, 16:15

Dude, you just made the question even more complicated. Now we can't be even sure of this issue whatsoever, because which word was the first man thought of, egg or chicken?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 17 Apr 2007, 16:52

He obviously saw a chicken, and named it chicken.

He can't have named the egg "egg" cause eggs have been called "eggs" for a really long time and it has nothing to do with just chickens. So when he saw a chicken he went "OMgz0r a new spiciez! Ima name U ChickeN^"

But that chicken he named obviousley came from an egg, hence, the egg was first.

There has to be an egg to create the fist chicken, since chickens didn't pop out of thin air.

There's your answer.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 17 Apr 2007, 22:16

Igge wrote:
There has to be an egg to create the fist chicken, since chickens didn't pop out of thin air.

That reasoning is faulty, because the eggs didn't either pop out of thin air.
Your argument generally is that the first chicken must have come from a chicken egg. And the first chicken egg must have been layn by a non-chicken.

But why do you think it is more liekly that the chicken egg was layn by a non chicken rather then the chicken was born from a non-chicken egg.

I would say this question has no real answer because the terms of chicken-egg and chicken is so poorly defined and the differences between generations is so small that you cannot tell until you have a more exact definition of chickens.

The easiest way to define this is to set a special time where the pre-scpecies of chicken turns into chickens and that would mean that the prechicken eggs and prechicken birds that existed at that time turned into chicken eggs and chickens by definition. And that would mean that they both started to exist at the same time.

Just my 5 cents.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 18 Apr 2007, 00:58

You're a rich boy with your fancy 5 cents. But you're right though.

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