I agree, let the dz junior topic be about welcoming =)Svein Rune wrote:Btw dz, I'm sorry for continuing this, this topic shouldn't be about this issue, so people who want to follow up upon whether baptizing is right or wrong should make a new topic.
Found one interesting article by some random person.
I was baptized when I got my name and I know there can be a difference between baptized and none-baptized (Baptists). It can seem a bit separated into groups, cults. We have it like that in my country. But I don't think, weather a person choses to do it or not, that there will be a major conflict.http://lifewise.canoe.ca/Parenting/2008/02/21/4865938.html wrote: By Jackie Burns
It was the two little sisters who lived down the street from me as a kid that scared me away from church. They used to torment me, saying I was â€œgoing to hellâ€ because I wasnâ€™t baptized and a regular churchgoer like them.
The experience left such a bad taste in my mouth that I can still remember their names and faces more than 25 years later â€“ and believe me â€“ my memory isnâ€™t one of my strong suits.
I couldnâ€™t understand why these little pig-tailed blonde girls â€“ who should have been playing carelessly in the park like the rest of the kids our age â€“ had such strong convictions about religion when they werenâ€™t even old enough to be left at home alone.
We used to call their dad â€˜Mr. Cleanâ€™ because he was constantly washing his driveway with the garden hose. Looking back now I can see the irony â€“ was he trying to wash to wash away the sins of the family? If only I had that comeback as a seven-year-old girl.
My parents decided not to baptize me as a baby because my father was Catholic and my mother Protestant. They thought it would be a good idea to let me decide for myself which religion I wanted to embrace when I was old enough.
In the mean time, I definitely felt different than all the other kids who had water poured over them. In fact, it wasnâ€™t until my adult years that I actually met a handle of people who, like me, hadnâ€™t been officially welcomed into the church.
I remember feeling confused when serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized in jail before he was killed. Did that mean that a man who murdered 17 people and kept their remains in the fridge was now going to heaven while I would suffer a less kind fate?
The issue of baptism came up again after the birth of my son. Like my father, my husbandâ€™s family is Catholic and baptizing their grandson was a given. I struggled for a long time over what to do. If I wasnâ€™t baptized, why was it important for me to baptize my son?
In the end I decided that this was something I wanted not only for my son, but for me as well. Call it the 2-for-1 baptism special. Iâ€™d always believed in a higher power and having my son only drove that point home for me. If ever there was a time to take the plunge, so to speak, it was now.
While researching which church I wanted to baptize us in â€“ I came across a statement on the Metropolitan United Churchâ€™s website that really struck a chord. â€œBaptism is not a requirement for Godâ€™s love. We believe people who die without baptism are in no way condemned, lost or damned.â€ Take that neighbour girls!
I had always felt good about the United Churchâ€™s openness towards women, same-sex couples and other religions. Iâ€™d also been married by a United Church minister two years before.
So on a sunny Sunday morning in November, I held my four-month-old son in front of the congregation of family and friends and was baptized alongside him. As the minister poured water on our heads and anointed us with oil â€“ I felt overcome with emotion. Whatever life held for us â€“ we were in it together.
And it turns out Iâ€™m in good company. Auzzie actor Russell Crowe recently told Menâ€™s Journal magazine that he plans to be baptized at the age of 43. â€œI started thinking recently, if I believe it is important to baptize my kids why not me?â€ he said of his sons 3 and 1. â€œThere is something much bigger that drives us all. Iâ€™m willing to take that leap of faith.â€
I couldnâ€™t have said it better mate!