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When Should EDQ3 be made?
As soon as possible 21%  21%  [ 18 ]
When WR TT falls down to 35:45 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
When WR TT crosses 35:30 48%  48%  [ 41 ]
At the #300 table 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Next year 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
2011 11%  11%  [ 9 ]
21.12.2012 14%  14%  [ 12 ]
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I totally agree with John on this, no top10s or shit, just flawless recs one after another :) you can do videos of merged enigma and hangman whenever you feel like it, EDQ is EDQ!


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:13 
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Pawq wrote:
I totally agree with John on this, no top10s or shit, just flawless recs one after another :) you can do videos of merged enigma and hangman whenever you feel like it, EDQ is EDQ!

agree with Pawq and John. The top 10 standings are for balles and cups, not for EDQ.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:29 
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Now you are talking about transitions. I've thought about the following approaches.
Instantly going to and playing next replay like in last EDQ, where you get that speedrun feeling.
Like I've done before in movies, a transition such as fade, but with freezing last and first frame so it transitions between those and doesn't cut anything off the actual replay.
Some splashscreen before each replay with kuski, time, level info, so you can read those beforehand and won't have to avert your eyes from the replays to read that during the replay.

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Can't be same zoom (value) as in EDQ because it had 800x600 resolution and Kopakas will have 1080 I presume, so AT LEAST 2.0 zoom imo, 2.25 even better.


Well you can calculate it, I assume last was in 1.0 zoom, that means vertically 1.8 and horisontally 2.4 zoom in 1080 res would be same "size".


Another thing, will probably use some sort of a level and replay as credits, but doubt I will get around to make a decent level. Anyone who's up for making it?


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:29 
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Okay whatever. Thought it would be nice see little more perspective of the levels. EDQ is not that holy thing for me. But what about showing during the replay, for example rolling bottom of the screen, or maybe thats too much distraction. Or if its 1080p, there is space to show it in the corner in smaller font, even top5. No? okay bye :D


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:41 
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Transitions are difficult. I guess fade to black could be nice in-between recs but no artsy 5 sec fade, make it quick. While black a white text bottom right could light up like a fluorescent lamp (you know, not immediately glowing but blinking a few times for attention of the eyes) with all the info about level and driver. No transition would work too imo.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:44 
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Im against rolling bottom, fading yes but not rolling. And my suggestion for soundtrack.
Breaking Point- One of a kind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jl7-B7VFLs


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:49 
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I hate those "fading transitions" after every rec in videos. Espcially if the end of the rec is cut. Prev edq was awesome, why not stick with it?


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:53 
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top3 sounds good, can prolly fit somewhere, more rizpekt for big leads in levs and those who dont watch elma closely might wander what is kazan spot in this lev, oh he has same time as that pro zweq (twin peaks) :P


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 15:35 
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Zweq wrote:
top3 sounds good, can prolly fit somewhere, more rizpekt for big leads in levs and those who dont watch elma closely might wander what is kazan spot in this lev, oh he has same time as that pro zweq (twin peaks) :P

Yes exactly my point. But then hangman is problematic with top3. Some may think: "Must be perfect time, how many more .37 there is?" :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 15:47 
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I don't like fades. But if you're going to use them, the shorter the better, preferably < 500ms. Also 'no' for rolling stats or anything on the bottom of the screen. Keep it simple pls.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 15:48 
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Just cut immediately to next rec. Having fades or sach looks weird when some levels are shorter than 20 seconds; then the fades are taking up too much place.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:01 
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I think it should cut immediately to the next rec like in last EDQ but also scroll top5 or top10 at the bottom of the screen once level starts.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:15 
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Please, keep it as simple as possible, just like in the previous EDQs. Beauty is in the simplicity. Transitions are nice, but unsuitable for this video imho. Also, keep the info about level and driver at the bottom of the video for the whole length of the replay. I've seen it in some other videos being shown up just for a couple seconds at the beginning of the rec and it was awful.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:26 
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I can't wait it so much I want to know at what stage gathering recs is. Kopaka pls say: has any of wr holders refused to share rec or not responded yet?


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:30 
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Status is 52/54 by combining those who said yes and those that are already shared (thanks for collecting badyl). No one said no, haven't heard from mr and zaraptor (plus few others, but those were already shared), if you see them tell them to check lauta pm.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:32 
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I hate those "fading transitions" after every rec in videos. Espcially if the end of the rec is cut. Prev edq was awesome, why not stick with it?
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'no' for rolling stats or anything on the bottom of the screen. Keep it simple pls.
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Just cut immediately to next rec.
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I think it should cut immediately to the next rec like in last EDQ
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Please, keep it as simple as possible, just like in the previous EDQs. Beauty is in the simplicity. Transitions are nice, but unsuitable for this video

all of the above! edq should have as fast and dynamic feeling as possible; some awful transitions, fades or whatever just spoil it, make you wait for the next rec instead of punching you in the face with the next awesome piece of driving.

i agree that having some topx somewhere would be cool, but when i imagine having top10 lists between recs, or top5s in the corners, or top10s rolling at the bottom... NOOOO, PLEASE NOO ;(

imo you could just take previous edq, increase reso and put in new recs, it was perfect)


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:42 
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Another thing is, should we use the personalised shirts from eol? or just default one for all.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:56 
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Another suggestion: Guano Apes - Open Your Eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFvCx6w_ptE

Maybe we should arrange some voting for music?


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Kopaka wrote:
Another thing is, should we use the personalised shirts from eol? or just default one for all.

Shirts sound like a good idea and incentive for watchers to look into EOL if they haven't ;)


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 17:08 
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Kopaka wrote:
Another thing is, should we use the personalised shirts from eol? or just default one for all.

typical ordinary shirt. Non-swap bikes. Classic is da best.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 17:21 
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Kopaka wrote:
Another thing is, should we use the personalised shirts from eol? or just default one for all.

Default by all means.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 17:58 
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badyl wrote:
Maybe we should arrange some voting for music?


No please, Kopaka chooses the music since he is responsible for the project (or skint0r?). That's not some fucking listeners choice, you can like it or hate it. skint used 4 soundtracks in EDQ and many people hated anyway, you just can't make it perfect for everyone.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:00 
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The idea of personalized shirts for the kuskis seems like a good idea to me atleast o,o


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Pascal wrote:
badyl wrote:
Maybe we should arrange some voting for music?


No please, Kopaka chooses the music since he is responsible for the project (or skint0r?). That's not some fucking listeners choice, you can like it or hate it. skint used 4 soundtracks in EDQ and many people hated anyway, you just can't make it perfect for everyone.

What the fuck?


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 18:57 
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Default shirt please. Imagine you're watching, say, a sonic speedrun. You wouldn't want soniz to have some mongo logo or fancy skins or whatever, you'd want the game to look exactly like it did when you played it years ago.


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 21:13 
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Igge wrote:
Default shirt please. Imagine you're watching, say, a sonic speedrun. You wouldn't want soniz to have some mongo logo or fancy skins or whatever, you'd want the game to look exactly like it did when you played it years ago.

True! Put sonic-lgr ON naw!


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 22:07 
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who the hell needs custom t-shirts? most of them are ugly anyway, made in paint in 3s


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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2012, 23:00 
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I wouldn't mind custom shirts, just sayin. Default is okey too.


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 02:35 
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The normal green/red bike please and norm shirt.
And please use default balazs lgr this time.


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Hosp wrote:
The normal green/red bike please and norm shirt.
And please use default balazs lgr this time.

Non-centered camera, moving map, pictures in front of kuski, jumping apples and elma sounds on while you're at it? ._.


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 12:37 
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Okay I have simple and proper way to make multiple soundtracks now, and want to make it just because whatever. If someone wants to make a soundtrack they can contact me. Should have some specific theme, not just mixed songs you'd like to hear with it. Then you will have to make the full lenght soundtrack, length should be something like 37-38 minutes I guess. You can get more specific timings later, like when intro ends, outro starts etc. but at that point it will be very close to release, so you will have to be quick.

As for the default soundtrack, since people are already posting in here just keep suggesting stuff. But not too many each please. Also I would personally prefer stuff that is somewhat recent (last couple years). So when you watch it in 10 years you can be like, oh right those were the good replays from back then, but also oh right those were the good songs from back then.


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Xarthok wrote:
Hosp wrote:
The normal green/red bike please and norm shirt.
And please use default balazs lgr this time.

Non-centered camera, moving map, pictures in front of kuski, jumping apples and elma sounds on while you're at it? ._.

What's wrong with default lgr? I just watched some Kopaka's videos with default sky and it looks great. Those few ones similar to HighQ with the fixed line for a higher resolution have weird colors and are so asymmetrical.


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 12:44 
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I will try make a Metal or Hip Hop soundtrack, haven't decided which one yet, anyone else up for making any of those two I mentioned? Then I can go for the other one.
I will be more careful with choosing music for EDQ than what I was with my own videos, just so you know =)

Also: Is someone making a level as background to the ending credits?


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 12:47 
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i can make king diamond soundtrack ¨=D~


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 12:56 
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i make genesis/marillion soundtrak)(


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 12:58 
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genesis would be max, maybe you could squeeze some focus and gentle giant in it


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 13:18 
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Bjenn wrote:
I will try make a Metal or Hip Hop soundtrack, haven't decided which one yet, anyone else up for making any of those two I mentioned? Then I can go for the other one.
I will be more careful with choosing music for EDQ than what I was with my own videos, just so you know =)

Also: Is someone making a level as background to the ending credits?

metal sounds nice


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 16:56 
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Xarthok wrote:
Hosp wrote:
The normal green/red bike please and norm shirt.
And please use default balazs lgr this time.

Non-centered camera, moving map, pictures in front of kuski, jumping apples and elma sounds on while you're at it? ._.


Centered Camera, no map, not pictures in front of kuski, no elma sounds, no moving apples. Just nice to see the levels in their original state. Only wrong thing skint0r did in EDQ2 was the use of highq.lgr


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PostPosted: 24 Oct 2012, 17:10 
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highq wasnt wrong imo, only thing 'wrang' was teh sky background in headbanger but double trouble with original ;=)=


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I just put together a House soundtrack, duno if you guys would like such. I'll do Metal next. Audio is really not any size compared to the video so it doesn't matter if we have more extra soundtracks in the video imo =)


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I took some songs that Xarthok mentioned for the House soundtrack, Metal soundtrack is pretty much done aswell, John and I thought Hip Hop maybe isn't that popular to listen to, to EDQ. But someone else could make it anyway if he or she wants to.

If anyone wants to have a color in any of the soundtracks I made, feel free to pm me and ask for the list of titles I have in that specific soundtrack, after that you can come with suggestions, like adding/removing songs, or put them in a different order etc. Kopaka will be the one throwing it all together since he has the video, it's too impsy to mix it good when you don't have anything to go after.
I won't post the titles here in the soundtracks because I think it would be more fun for most of the viewers if it came as a surprise!


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 15:41 
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We are 54/54 now. I have sent a message to wr holders to tell them aswell, and to ask for the replays from those who wanted to see if everyone else wanted to share aswell. Will be starting to capture replays soon, but there will still be time to replace with any new WRs of course.


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 16:19 
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Can't wait to see it!


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 18:00 
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuf1G9wYsE quick text test o,o


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 18:04 
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first is teh best and desired size.


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first becouse of size, but its... well not ugly, but not very cool imo - i mean colors and font


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 18:07 
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put flags instead of first letters of nationality
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And what about timer. Shoudn't it be on?


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 18:23 
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First is good, but can you try putting drivers name little upwards and then places 2-5 below that in smaller font.


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2nd was nice, just need less rowspacing


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PostPosted: 25 Oct 2012, 18:34 
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First was the best font, but I really dislike the top 5 list. I mean who has even time to stare at it and understand the information while watching? No one!


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