Balle elma server bug reports

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 13 Apr 2007, 21:22

It would be good if the text "(F4 to download)" wasn't written when the level already exists. I have overwritten o couple of times because of this :I

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Apr 2007, 17:37

fixed some bugs and change some details today (didnt spread yet, fixed sla's possibility to cheat, all texts added to main window, some more details..)

things to do :

1. fix elma crash
2. fix possibility to ez cheat in balles (that jaytea's one)
3. change ip box in cfg prog so it will work in all windows and also in linux
4. chat
5. automatic best balle rec saving and non automatic upload/download of rec file
6. widescreen elmaconf
7. always brake / always throttle balles
8. possibility to combine balle types - onelife no brake, ..
9. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
10. clean top10 in lev file when uploading to the ftp (optional)
11. hide yourself to others (if not in balle) or hide to everybody outside team (password needed for team)
12. show leader of the balle in bottom text
13. write some message before donlaoding with f4 if file exists

Sla · Post by **Sla** » 15 Apr 2007, 18:03

milagros wrote:(didnt spread yet, fixed sla's possibility to cheat,

?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 15 Apr 2007, 22:24

Sla wrote:
milagros wrote:(didnt spread yet, fixed sla's possibility to cheat,
?

same as jaytea's is his... only he didnt tell anyone

Sla · Post by **Sla** » 15 Apr 2007, 22:29

all nabs repeating "cheater". ez an explain

wjelo · Post by **wjelo** » 15 Apr 2007, 23:00

xiit!!!

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 22 Apr 2007, 23:21

things to do :

1. fix elma crash
2. change ip box in cfg prog so it will work in all windows and also in linux
3. automatic best balle rec saving and non automatic upload/download of rec file
4. widescreen elmaconf
5. always brake / always throttle balles
6. possibility to combine balle types - onelife no brake, ..
7. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
8. clean top10 in lev file when uploading to the ftp
9. hide yourself to others (if not in balle) or hide to everybody outside team (password needed for team)
10. show leader of the balle in bottom text
11. write some message before downloading with f4 if file exists
12. do download via http, not ftp so it gets faster

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 22 Apr 2007, 23:28

milagros wrote:things to do :

1. fix elma crash
2. change ip box in cfg prog so it will work in all windows and also in linux
3. automatic best balle rec saving and non automatic upload/download of rec file
4. widescreen elmaconf
5. always brake / always throttle balles
6. possibility to combine balle types - onelife no brake, ..
7. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
8. clean top10 in lev file when uploading to the ftp
9. hide yourself to others (if not in balle) or hide to everybody outside team (password needed for team)
10. show leader of the balle in bottom text
11. write some message before downloading with f4 if file exists
12. do download via http, not ftp so it gets faster

1. yes plz, been crashing about 3 times a day lately
2. for dz ^_^
3. priority #1 atm imo
4. k
5. uhm, k, if it's ez
6. cool
7. nag skint plz
8. priority #3
9. priority #2
10. if there ain't 20 ppl i have results always visible, but this would be cool
11. i usually check first if name is familiar but k
12. no big difference but k, also could paste url to #ballelma then

when you finish all this, an official release is coming? like elma 1.3?

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 23 Apr 2007, 07:44

milagros wrote:things to do :

1. fix elma crash
2. change ip box in cfg prog so it will work in all windows and also in linux
3. automatic best balle rec saving and non automatic upload/download of rec file
4. widescreen elmaconf
5. always brake / always throttle balles
6. possibility to combine balle types - onelife no brake, ..
7. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
8. clean top10 in lev file when uploading to the ftp
9. hide yourself to others (if not in balle) or hide to everybody outside team (password needed for team)
10. show leader of the balle in bottom text
11. write some message before downloading with f4 if file exists
12. do download via http, not ftp so it gets faster

1,3,7,9,12 important atm I thinks, then statistics. and guess pasting lev/rec urls on irc wouldnt be hard then, checking recs without playing would be cool. with 7 and 9 can use only one elma for everything(internal hoyling + balles ), ballelma

edit: or actually 5 would be very cool also

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 23 Apr 2007, 15:22

ideas to get the ppl who are unsatisfied about #battle being dead to get better experiences with belma (if the reason is because they cant port forward):
we need a way to follow the times, the ingame times thing does not show up (maybe it could somehow?). so i'm thinking every 3-4-5 mins the current standings of the battle should be pasted in irc or maybe just whenever someone gets the best time.
of course a lot of the cool stuff will still be missing for us unfortunate ones but this issue is the main thing keeping belma from being good enough to fully replace #battle for us.
i forgot if starting battles is posible for ppl without ports forwarded, if not this is a problem too.

other than that this is getting pretty cool and the amount of players is cool! were you guys just too lazy to download the levs before? or afraid of telling times?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 23 Apr 2007, 15:31

perhaps time of the leader via tcp should be enough
i will prolly redo chat to tcp so no messages will be lost

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 23 Apr 2007, 17:21

yeah, messages sometimes don't reach server. also, sometimes finishes don't appear in finished times list.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 23 Apr 2007, 17:43

8-ball wrote:yeah, messages sometimes don't reach server. also, sometimes finishes don't appear in finished times list.

i guess more often message from server doesnt reach you
i remember i typed one line that didnt appear and i got answer:)
has something to do with sax inet connection:)

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 23 Apr 2007, 21:39

fixed teh crashing hopefully
we'll see:)

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 24 Apr 2007, 06:26

bug: If you join a battle late, battlestarter's nick will be blank

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 24 Apr 2007, 09:32

zworqy wrote:bug: If you join a battle late, battlestarter's nick will be blank

ok will fix teh

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 25 Apr 2007, 15:05

things to do :
1. move chat to tcp
2. hide yourself to others (if not in balle) or hide to everybody outside team (password needed for team)
3. change ip box in cfg prog so it will work in all windows and also in linux
4. always throttle and 1htt balles
5. possibility to combine balle types - onelife no brake, ..
6. show leader of the balle in bottom text
7. write some message before downloading with f4 if file exists
8. clean top10 in lev file when uploading to the ftp
9. fix blank balle starter in results (zworqy reported) and fix one wrang text
10. automatic best balle rec saving and non automatic upload/download of rec file
11. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
12. do download via http, not ftp so it gets faster

i'll do first 9 together now, all of them are short and ez and would require new version number.. so i'll do it in next 2-3 days and spread after all 9 are done

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 26 Apr 2007, 21:50

moved chat to tcp (so also portforwardn00bs see teh), added keytimer to chat (=you hodl the key, it writes more letters, or backspace deletes), server is pasting chat to irc and also its possible to press control keys during chatting (hold brake while typing), increased chatline size
also fixed one wrang countdown text
will be spread together with other updates 2-9 in the list

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 27 Apr 2007, 01:42

did 6, 7, 9

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 27 Apr 2007, 06:22

milagros wrote:did 6, 7, 9

\o/

skint0r · Post by **skint0r** » 27 Apr 2007, 09:49

milagros wrote:server is pasting chat to irc

Does this mean what I think it does? Will it paste all chat people do inside belma to #ballelma channel by balleserver? In my opinion I think that would get really annoying.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 27 Apr 2007, 13:04

skint0r wrote:
milagros wrote:server is pasting chat to irc
Does this mean what I think it does? Will it paste all chat people do inside belma to #ballelma channel by balleserver? In my opinion I think that would get really annoying.

ye, its only one line in the code, ez remove teh

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 28 Apr 2007, 07:48

[09:20:15] <Jappe2> only few minor things i would want: 1. change ballestarter default time from 15mins to 10mins (noobs starting 15min balles for 7sec levels often)
[09:20:33] <Jappe2> 2. thing so u could "reserve" to have next battle
[09:41:32] <Jappe2> to expand that idea i just gave. server could save and check level names. so old levels are moved to last in queue

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 29 Apr 2007, 01:12

did last results via tcp, 1htt balle, always throttle balle, all crippling combinations possible (except nothrottle+alwaysthrottle and nobrake+alwaysthrottle - thats automatic), also 1htt is done
havent tested anything yet
so i'll test, do 2, 3, 8 (all of them quite ez and fast) and spread next version then
you'll have to download all new files including cfg to get it to work then

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 29 Apr 2007, 05:16

sweet!

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 29 Apr 2007, 22:32

did those first 9 thingies
if oyu want to play, you have to download everything INCLUDING cfgs

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 29 Apr 2007, 22:33

things to do when i get the mood :

1. automatic best balle rec saving and non automatic upload/download of rec file
2. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
3. do download via http (not ftp) so it gets faster
4. do balle queue
5. possibility to change keys f1->f10
6. possibility to set stable map

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 30 Apr 2007, 00:15

1.bug - in 1htt sometimes blank kuski line in results, dunno why, got it once before, wasnt able to repeat, leader is shown correctly then..
2. keys - when you are chatting, should keys work or not? last time they didnt, now they do - what's better?
3. cant test those hiding/hiding outside team, is it working properly or not? (works only outside balle)

danitah · Post by **danitah** » 30 Apr 2007, 00:19

on 2nd: I want off personally, becouse I use oklÃ¸m| keys so I may die if I type some. But I understand why some people might want on. So I'd say make on/off option.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 1 May 2007, 00:17

milagros wrote:2. keys - when you are chatting, should keys work or not? last time they didnt, now they do - what's better?

How about only non-alfanumerical keys work? So arrows and stuff can be used to driving.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 1 May 2007, 12:43

Is kinda mongo to turn all the time when you press space when chatting :I

My FPS goes down to 16 when chat is on, so it get's extremely laggy to type, is this common problem?

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 1 May 2007, 14:01

nice mila0r

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 May 2007, 13:51

list update..

1. automatic best balle rec saving and non-automatic upload/download of rec file
2. password checking - SKIPPED (after skint0r is done with site and we have teh server)
3. download via http (not ftp) so it gets faster - SKIPPED (hard to setup, might not work if we move to other server)
4. balle queue - DONE
5. possibility to change keys f1->f10 - HALF DONE (nat have setup prog)
6. possibility to set stable map
7. disable keys during chatting after all (+try to remove screenshot key, ..)- DONE
8. change balle->battle, nab->kuski(kuski = plural?, or maybe players?) - DONE
9. center startballe window on the screen - DONE
10. separate survivor / slowness battles, slowness will have to be finished (otherwise apples counted) - DONE
11. possibility to hide chat - DONE
12. possibility to hide balle level info - DONE
13. more lines in chat (maybe 5, or over whole screen if some key is pressed) - DONE
14. wildcard bans on the server - DONE
15. check that slowing down replay problem - CHECKED - appears only in vsync off, if you have step 1ms, you can decrease it without changing some hard constants in the game, cant really do anything about it, or atleast not without any major changes
16. show balle aborted message ingame - DONE
17. update lev list after lev download.. might be tricky
18. remove hidden kuski from f5 list and their results from f7 list - DONE
19. ingame reconnect if lost teh connection, with some f13 - DONE
20. server irc reconnect (prolly some key press required, or maybe automatically) - DONE
21. better frame interpolation and make extreme values appear a bit better - DONE
22. hide chatline after 10 secs - DONE
23. show ballestarter ingame - DONE
24. show new players connected - SKIPPED (voted at irc)
25. fix 1htt bug - DONE
26. show also players that nat play in f5 list - DONE

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 2 May 2007, 14:25

milagros wrote:list update..

1. automatic best balle rec saving and non-automatic upload/download of rec file
2. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
3. download via http (not ftp) so it gets faster
4. balle queue
5. possibility to change keys f1->f10
6. possibility to set stable map
7. disable keys during chatting after all
8. change balle->battle, nab->kuski(kuski = plural?, or maybe players?)
9. center startballe window on the screen
10. separate survivor / slowness battles, slowness will have to be finished (otherwise apples counted)
11. possibility to hide chat
12. possibility to hide balle level info
13. more lines in chat (maybe 5, or over whole screen if some key is pressed)
14. wildcard bans on the server
15. check that slowing down replay problem
16. show balle aborted message ingame

most of them are 5 secs updates, some of them will take a while, i'm not really working on it right now..

All of those sounds great, thought i don't care much about nr 5

About nr 8, I like 'players', but I guess 'kuskis' work too. And spy -> observe, plz

niN · Post by **niN** » 2 May 2007, 16:09

milagros wrote:list update..

1. automatic best balle rec saving and non-automatic upload/download of rec file
2. password checking - after skint0r is done with site
3. download via http (not ftp) so it gets faster
4. balle queue
5. possibility to change keys f1->f10
6. possibility to set stable map
7. disable keys during chatting after all (+try to remove screenshot key, ..)
8. change balle->battle, nab->kuski(kuski = plural?, or maybe players?)
9. center startballe window on the screen
10. separate survivor / slowness battles, slowness will have to be finished (otherwise apples counted)
11. possibility to hide chat
12. possibility to hide balle level info
13. more lines in chat (maybe 5, or over whole screen if some key is pressed)
14. wildcard bans on the server
15. check that slowing down replay problem
16. show balle aborted message ingame
17. update lev list after donwload.. might be tricky

most of them are 5 secs updates, some of them will take a while, i'm not really working on it right now..

I've been checking belma out and got some few things which I would like to see (of which some might not be possible):

Â§ Possibility to see who just signed on, i.e it says in the top left corner "nIN just connected". De careful with this so that this option don't show more than one or three rows (quite useless but wateheck).

Â§ In chat: the game will be 'paused' so that if you die you will be able to keep writing.

Â§ Don't forget to make a list of the ballequeue on i.e F9.

Â§ Possibility to vote for different things like: "Abort balle? yes(F1) no(F2)" Only moderators should be able to start a vote.

Â§ Some daily statistics would be cool. A list up in the right corner that show top 5 of ballewins from 0:00 to 11:59 PM. Sort of like daily statistics. (this might be a bit hard and maybe not so important).

That's all I can think of now. Remember that these are only a few quite unimportant suggestions from me, but I would've really love it if one or two could end up in your list

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 May 2007, 16:16

niN wrote:I've been checking belma out and got some few things which I would like to see (of which some might not be possible):

Â§ Possibility to see who just signed on, i.e it says in the top left corner "nIN just connected". De careful with this so that this option don't show more than one or three rows (quite useless but wateheck).

Â§ In chat: the game will be 'paused' so that if you die you will be able to keep writing.

Â§ Possibility to vote for different things like: "Abort balle? yes(F1) no(F2)" Only moderators should be able to start a vote.

Â§ Some daily statistics would be cool. A list up in the right corner that show top 5 of ballewins from 0:00 to 11:59 PM. Sort of like daily statistics. (this might be a bit hard and maybe not so important).

1. i can show new connected kuskis, dunno if its wanted, 5 mins
2. no game pause, ez saveload with vmware then
3. voting kinda sax, we have moderators that can stop balle, thats enough
4. stats are done, all we need is REAL SERVER and skint0r's php (not ingame)

niN · Post by **niN** » 2 May 2007, 16:45

milagros wrote:
niN wrote:I've been checking belma out and got some few things which I would like to see (of which some might not be possible):

Â§ Possibility to see who just signed on, i.e it says in the top left corner "nIN just connected". De careful with this so that this option don't show more than one or three rows (quite useless but wateheck).

Â§ In chat: the game will be 'paused' so that if you die you will be able to keep writing.

Â§ Possibility to vote for different things like: "Abort balle? yes(F1) no(F2)" Only moderators should be able to start a vote.

Â§ Some daily statistics would be cool. A list up in the right corner that show top 5 of ballewins from 0:00 to 11:59 PM. Sort of like daily statistics. (this might be a bit hard and maybe not so important).
1. i can show new connected kuskis, dunno if its wanted, 5 mins
2. no game pause, ez saveload with vmware then
3. voting kinda sax, we have moderators that can stop balle, thats enough
4. stats are done, all we need is REAL SERVER and skint0r's php (not ingame)

cheers mate

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 2 May 2007, 17:43

imo prio 1. users, no fakes 2. hide all the damn text, max annoying

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 3 May 2007, 13:29

zworqy wrote:About nr 8, I like 'players', but I guess 'kuskis' work too. And spy -> observe, plz

Isn't it kuskit in plural? I recall that was used ages ago, but I might be wrong.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » 3 May 2007, 16:16

Maybe the "kuski XXX logged in" should be in chat - that'd save some room, but only if the chat is going to be 5 or more rows

Also, like i wrote @ #ballema, slowness onelife would be max..

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 4 May 2007, 08:09

kuski is finnish. kuskit is finnish. kuskis is englishfinnish.

kuski = driver
kuskit = drivers
kuskis = kuskis

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 4 May 2007, 15:15

just like bulle and bullar?
kuskit sounds better imo.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 4 May 2007, 17:09

8-ball wrote:just like bulle and bullar?

bulle is swedish, but yes. bullar is plural.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 4 May 2007, 19:45

the chat-text should dissapear after 10 or 15 seconds imho, max annoying when you always see the same lines...

dz · Post by dz » 5 May 2007, 08:04

Okay I tried to run belmaServerConf.exe again with the standard and most popular windows emulator Wine, and this time I cannot start it at all. I get the following error messages:

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err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"belmaServerConf.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"belmaServerConf.exe" failed, status c0000135

This one was previously solved by copying the mfc42.dll to wine directory. Still the IP-adress box didn't work.

Now after I try to fix the previous problem, I get another one:

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wine: Call from 0x722f05ab to unimplemented function msvcrt.dll.strcpy_s, aborting
wine: Call from 0x7bc56135 to unimplemented function msvcrt.dll.__CxxFrameHandler3, aborting
err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 684 bytes in thread 0009 eip b7cea4d3 esp 00240d54 stack 0x241000-0x350000

Doesn't look very nice! I'm guessing it's the strange non-standard (to other belmaServerConf.exe text boxes) IP-address field that's bugging everything.

Can you please fix the IP-box mila because at the moment elma is not very playable under unix/linux/*nix anymore.

Edit: to clear things it is only the belmaServerConf.exe that is bugging, if I use the default configuration I can run belma itself without any problems. I just cannot create the bs.cfg.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 5 May 2007, 15:06

list is being updated ^^^^
also things that are already done, so check it out sometimes

ElToto · Post by **ElToto** » 6 May 2007, 13:47

dz wrote:

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wine: Call from 0x722f05ab to unimplemented function msvcrt.dll.strcpy_s, aborting
wine: Call from 0x7bc56135 to unimplemented function msvcrt.dll.__CxxFrameHandler3, aborting
err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 684 bytes in thread 0009 eip b7cea4d3 esp 00240d54 stack 0x241000-0x350000

seems like you do not have the msvcrt.dll
mila's dll must call functions as strcpy_s
This is the problem with new microsoft framework

dz, did you read doc to "how run MFC programs under [your OS]" maybe using Wine ?

dz · Post by dz » 6 May 2007, 17:45

I heard from Rawl that in newer version of wine it works. I guess it could do something about the new framework you were talking about and that's being improved in newer wine version. I do have those dll's and I tried even replace them by Windows Vista dll's but no help.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 6 May 2007, 23:24

dz wrote:I heard from Rawl that in newer version of wine it works. I guess it could do something about the new framework you were talking about and that's being improved in newer wine version. I do have those dll's and I tried even replace them by Windows Vista dll's but no help.

in last version ip box is exactly the same as any other box

Kestas · Post by **Kestas** » 7 May 2007, 00:58

zworqy wrote:And spy -> observe, plz

spectate maybe would be better?