Golden Apple Awards 2007

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 22 Nov 2007, 07:10

good on you jt, you're not coming to my birthday party either.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 22 Nov 2007, 09:47

none of the new styles had not been thought before ( not sure about hill legend ), like ramp and hi flyer dreamt for years, luther tried exact same in apple h, steppes been done before, warm up style old also.

but hey thats only routes, the thing is to master the trick, one little difference, 0,5 sec keypress that cuts seconds

Palme · Post by **Palme** » 22 Nov 2007, 10:27

Just a hypothetical question: Am i allowed to edit my nomanations? I hadn t much time to think about and only posted to not forget to nominate

Hx · Post by Hx » 22 Nov 2007, 10:43

haha doesnt sound hypothetical to me

probably cant edit them anymore but it might not matter if other people nominated the same things

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 22 Nov 2007, 19:51

Xiphias wrote:
Raven wrote:
A.K.B. wrote:
Raven wrote:is it my style, that steppes?

at least i made it first..
I do believe he used my volt, btw. YOURE NOT COMING TO MY BIRTHDAY PARTY
hmm, i didn't use your volt :9
It's nobody's style. Only thing we can say is that Raven made it first.

crazy revealed it imho...

KD · Post by KD » 23 Nov 2007, 02:40

jaytea: but when i say IRK, everyone will know what level are we talking about, won't they? There are certain famous styles, heck even Abula invented one (or more

).

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 23 Nov 2007, 09:17

Palme wrote:Just a hypothetical question: Am i allowed to edit my nomanations? I hadn t much time to think about and only posted to not forget to nominate

Not possible anymore because the 2nd phase is already going.
Though the idea was to give only suggestion to us (jurors), and in the 1st phase you were allowed to give multiple suggestions, so no need to 'edit' the old ones. I guess if you have a suggestion which hasn't been already suggested, you can say it here 'unofficially', but we may not take it into account.
There is still 3rd phase coming and then you can maybe think your votes more thoroughly.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 23 Nov 2007, 13:16

KD wrote:jaytea: but when i say IRK, everyone will know what level are we talking about, won't they? There are certain famous styles, heck even Abula invented one (or more ).

heah irk wasn't the main contributor to that apple harvest style i guess, so the irk style for me its his double trouble trick

Dahle · Post by **Dahle** » 23 Nov 2007, 15:44

I know it's late, but how about adding LC306 to level of the year category? It's far better than the other levs I nominated, and I got an impression that quite a few people agree with me that this lev should be nominated... Too bad if a lev from the GAA period is overseen because it was released a few hours late...

Post by **SveinR** » 23 Nov 2007, 16:45

Dahle wrote:I know it's late, but how about adding LC306 to level of the year category? It's far better than the other levs I nominated, and I got an impression that quite a few people agree with me that this lev should be nominated... Too bad if a lev from the GAA period is overseen because it was released a few hours late...

The jury can select whatever candidates they want to that are eligible in the GAA period (though we of course take the community's suggestions into consideration). And the GAA period doesn't end before the Second step ends.

John · Post by **John** » 23 Nov 2007, 23:58

milagros wrote:
KD wrote:jaytea: but when i say IRK, everyone will know what level are we talking about, won't they? There are certain famous styles, heck even Abula invented one (or more :wink:).
heah irk wasn't the main contributor to that apple harvest style i guess, so the irk style for me its his double trouble trick

irk makes me think about headbanger, kd ;o

KD · Post by KD » 24 Nov 2007, 01:14

Ok, you get my point anyway. It doesn't matter which lev comes to your mind as long as at least one does.

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 24 Nov 2007, 13:33

IRK = i r gay?

anyway AH and DT would be first in mind for me

dz · Post by dz » 24 Nov 2007, 13:43

milagros wrote:
KD wrote:jaytea: but when i say IRK, everyone will know what level are we talking about, won't they? There are certain famous styles, heck even Abula invented one (or more ).
heah irk wasn't the main contributor to that apple harvest style i guess, so the irk style for me its his double trouble trick

As far as I know, yes he was the main contributor. He wrote the whole route on paper, showed it to me and mrickx, (might be someone else too, I dont know) and we figured out how to improve it. It was all done, except the problematic flip part after beginning. This route on paper was later put into wr replay.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 24 Nov 2007, 22:27

I gathered the best levs from this year according to my personal likings and communitys votes. I think this can help both us (jurors) and you (community) to vote in level and designer categories. Of course this list is biased because it has been made by me, but that's what i got when i searched through my lev folder which consisted of all the battle and cup levs i have played this year. I hope this is not coming late...

http://koti.mbnet.fi/zebra/best_levs_2007.zip

edit: i updated the zip (25.11.2007)

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 24 Nov 2007, 23:44

Ruschain - old level. 2004 year or so

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 25 Nov 2007, 00:06

Costyan_DRE wrote:Ruschain - old level. 2004 year or so

ok, thanks.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 25 Nov 2007, 01:27

rather consider one of these

http://up.k10x.net/qbhnoxpdvakbn/byxor197.lev
http://up.k10x.net/rkxxzjuiylijn/byxor201.lev

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 25 Nov 2007, 12:43

8-ball wrote:rather consider one of these
http://up.k10x.net/qbhnoxpdvakbn/byxor197.lev
http://up.k10x.net/rkxxzjuiylijn/byxor201.lev

hmm, nice.
You should have advertised and suggested these before, when you made your suggestions. I mean all of you. We can't know all the battle levels you have made. The same goes for replays.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 26 Nov 2007, 06:44

and these adventure levels? O_O
http://up.k10x.net/egkwshxlqhwrj/weed0002.lev (mine)
http://up.k10x.net/kmacehguemftr/8ch001.lev (mine)
http://up.k10x.net/igabtltpkuhoc/Chacy.lev (cyre's)
these were hours (days) of fun.

man what else has been forgotten.

Kowal · Post by **Kowal** » 15 Dec 2007, 14:24

The time have passed! Where are the nominations?

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 15 Dec 2007, 14:54

Be patient. Surely they are coming soon

Post by **SveinR** » 17 Dec 2007, 03:15

Third step of the voting process

Here follows the nominees made by the jury.

Internalist
Boomer
Jarkko
John
Kowal
Lukazz
OtorK
proDigy
Raven
Xiphias
Zweq

Externalist
A.K.B.
ANpDaD
axxu
Bjorn
J-sim
jaytea
KD
Markku
Raven
talli

Battler
8-ball
axxu
Bjorn
jaytea
KD
Markku
Orcc
talli
Xiphias
Zweq

Rookie
Adi
Bjorn
Cap
Hx
Igge
Kowal
Polarix
Smibu

Designer
8-ball
Antz
Bjorn
error
insane guy
Jappe2
tijsjoris
umiz
Xhomaz
zebra

Team
EA
FM
GF
HHIT
KAMAZ
LOS
MK
POL
TAP
WNO

WR
01. Warm Up 14,00 Zweq #259
07. Hi Flyer 30,66 Zweq #265
09. Tunnel Terror 54,98 Zweq #262
10. The Steppes 11,09 Zweq #266
16. New Wave 1:25,14 Memphis #270
24. Ramp Frenzy 42,85 Zweq #265
29. Headbanger 42,89 John #265
31. Animal Farm 1:14,34 Zweq #255
51. Tricks Abound 42,54 OtorK #266
54. Apple Harvest 1:15,25 John #265

Style
Zweq's Hi Flyer
Zweq's Hill Legend
Zweq's Ramp Frenzy
Zweq's Tunnel Terror
Xiphias's Labyrinth Pro
Style pack (For Zweq's styles, see the Elma Done Quick movie)

Replay
05. Uphill Battle: 19,96 Jarkko
13. Hill Legend: 14,09 axxu
32. Steep Corner: 32,97 axxu
36. Fruit in the Den: 57,34 John
50. Expert System: 53,29 John
DC311.lev: 19,07 tatujka
ELC04.lev: 39,99 axxu
LC303.lev: 37,71 axxu
mkup309.lev: 21,57 talli
mopoco15.lev: 50,80 ANpDaD
Replay pack (the needed levels included)

Level
byxor197.lev basic indiana jones course by 8-ball
ErP203.lev 03 Bullet For My Kuski by error
Japb1043.lev ReMax by Jappe2
LC306.lev The Dead Scene by Xhomaz
SkVar018.lev EDfQv2 Credits by skint0r
superlev.lev SuperLev by WkE
Tube09.lev Tube #09 by 8-ball
z0140.lev 4 apples remastered by zebra
z0157.lev Alphabet by Zebra
weed0002.lev whoaaaa man by 8-ball
Level Pack

Contest
27
Daisy Cup 3
Elimination Cup
Error Merry Cup
LOS Cup 3
minichamp
MopoKup 3
Moposite Playing Levels
Russian Level Pack 2
zebra's Elma Riddle

Contribution
Abula: Paprika, #across op
Jappe2: Making hundreds of belma levels, belma moderating
milagros: Creating and developing belma; introducing a whole new dimension to Elasto Mania
px: Updating WRs, #across op
skint0r: Elasto Mania Done Quick, belma server and b.attle.info, GAA jury member, up.k10x.net
SveinR: GAA organizer, Moporator, Multi WRs
veezay: Making trance remix for EDQ
WNO: Zweq and John starting the trend of releasing all WRs to EDQ
zordin: Russian scene work
zworqy: Web site, providing temporary belma server, GAA jury member

Achievement
John: Getting the first spot in TT in January, and having kept it all year. Also a big contributing factor along with Zweq for bringing the WR TT below 36 mins
Juzam: Getting best Combined TT, broke 23 min limit for Combined TT along with Zweq
Markku: Having twice as many points as the runner-up in skintatious, holding nearly 60% of the records
milagros: His massive programming skills and the results that come from it; creating a whole new dimension to Elma and bringing in many new players
WNO: Getting 4 amazing WRs in table #265, which brought the WR TT down below 36 mins
Zweq: Pulling off crazy and legendary styles (Hi Flyer, Ramp Frenzy), helping cut down WR TT considerably. Getting the biggest absolute improvement on a WR since February 2002, and the biggest relative improvement since August 2000. Broke 23 min limit for Combined TT along with Juzam

Site
b.attle.info
Danish Elma and Across Site
Elasto Mania Club
Elmasite
Kopasite
MEMO
Moposite
skintatious
up.k10x.net
Zworqy's site

Community Award
This will be an award decided entirely by the community. You will vote for the people you think most deserve a special honour, be it for their helpfulness, kindness, contributions or simply for being a great player. The reason will be the individual voters' own decision. The idea is that the award will go to the kuski most appreciated by the community. There will be no set of candidates to vote over in this category, each voter decides himself.
The voting process for this award is therefore different, see below.

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You are only eligible to vote if you are one of the following kuskis (why?) (listed in alphabetical order):

8-ball, A.K.B., Antz, berhabdul, Cement_sw, Coc0k, Costyan_DRE, CuLiNo, DaFred, Dahle, danielj, David_IEP, ElrondMcBong, enil, error, ExTeC, FinMan, Igge, infected, insane guy, Jappe2, jaytea, John, Kale, KD, Kopaka, Labs, Lukazz, Markku, Mawane, milagros, nick-o-matic, NightMar_JNR, niN, nony, OtorK, Palme, petsen, Polarix, sierra, Smibu, SpecB, The_BoneLESS, umiz, undient, wiElOryB, WkE, Xhomaz, Xiphias, ZeCone, Zweq

Remember that you don't have to vote in each and every category, but in the categories you do vote in, you have to pick your top 5. Your vote won't count otherwise.
In all categories: Only base your votes on what has happened in the GAA period.
Site: Vote for the sites that have improved the most and increased its relevance the most over the GAA period.
WRs: See http://www.moposite.com/records_elma_wrs.php

When voting, send a PM to SveinR with your votes. The votes have to be given in ranked order, from 1st to 5th. Each 1st position will give 5 points, each 2nd position will give 4 points, etc. The jury will assemble these points when the voting process has ended. You can only vote and send a PM once. Do not make your votes public in this thread.

Voting for the Community Award: You will list up to 3 people, in ranked order from 1st to 3rd. Each 1st position will give 5 points, each 2nd position will give 3 points and each 3rd position will give 1 point. Send your votes in this category in the same PM as your other votes. You do not have to vote in this category. Update: I would encourage people to write a few words about the people you vote for (if you have something specific to mention), because when we present the winner of this category, we'll include your reasons behind voting for him in some sort of speech. Which will be based on what you've written.

Deadline of sending in your votes: January 2nd 2008, 23:59 EET
Note: The GAA07 period is from December 18th 2006 to December 16th 2007.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 17 Dec 2007, 17:54

yeah im nominated

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 17 Dec 2007, 17:56

don't worry, nobody except for you will vote for your name

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 17 Dec 2007, 18:44

no offense but how the fuck did you get in?

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 17 Dec 2007, 19:49

i don't agree with jury that best lev is huuuge lev.
so, i have almost no choice =/

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 17 Dec 2007, 19:50

why isn't Jappe allowed to vote?

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 17 Dec 2007, 19:59

because he is banned? i regret that, but just saying the possible reason

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 17 Dec 2007, 20:00

btw
despite the fact that these contests will be voted only by russians

work links
Error Merry Cup http://league.hoyler.net/champs/view/38#2
MiniChamp by Costya[id] http://league.hoyler.net/champs/view/39#2

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 17 Dec 2007, 21:00

what's the logic in this:
WR
10. The Steppes 11,09 Zweq #266 -1st wr with new style, was improved to 10,81
54. Apple Harvest 1:15,25 John #265 -3rd wr with new style, is the current wr

im suggesting that it should be 10,81 steppes

also bit odd that the best style of the year(contributed by both me and john), apple h, isnt on the list. over 8 seconds have been cut so far and there is potential for 2-3 more( yes john played like one day for 1.15). we are talking about 10-11 seconds improvement on an internal level here, while people struggle to improve them more than 0,05. dont you think?

Post by **SveinR** » 17 Dec 2007, 21:40

8-ball wrote:why isn't Jappe allowed to vote?

I missed him because it was written inside your post, but he's included now. Thanks.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 17 Dec 2007, 21:53

milagros wrote:no offense but how the fuck did you get in?

dunno^^
isn't it an achievement to have 38 TT after some 4 years of playing

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 17 Dec 2007, 21:59

berhabdul wrote:don't worry, nobody except for you will vote for your name

stupid berh, why are you so mean?
at least lukazz will be remembered for being a good player...
you'll be remembered as the annoying guy everybody hated...

and yeah, i'll vote for him for sure

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 17 Dec 2007, 22:01

The_BoneLESS wrote:
berhabdul wrote:don't worry, nobody except for you will vote for your name
stupid berh, why are you so mean?
at least lukazz will be remembered for being a good player...
you'll be remembered as the annoying guy everybody hated...

and yeah, i'll vote for him for sure

:-*

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 17 Dec 2007, 22:31

Heah haeh im some oldskooler somebody thinks.

Post by **SveinR** » 17 Dec 2007, 22:55

Regarding the Community Award: I would encourage people to write a few words about the people you vote for (if you have something specific to mention), because when we present the winner of that category, we'll include your reasons behind voting for him in some sort of speech. Which will be based on what you've written.

niN · Post by **niN** » 17 Dec 2007, 23:00

SveinR wrote:Regarding the Community Award: I would encourage people to write a few words about the people you vote for (if you have something specific to mention), because when we present the winner of that category, we'll include your reasons behind voting for him in some sort of speech. Which will be based on what you've written.

Community Award is the best award yet

interesting to see who gets it and it's great that you keep it a secret and so anonymous.

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 17 Dec 2007, 23:35

What did I do? I just shown off the truth for Lukazz. If every of us voted really objectively and took into consideration only the GAA period, as the rules say, nobody should really vote for Lukazz. Look at the fact, that his group I mean category is one of the most popular and attractive ones. Internalist. An internalist is usually a guy who is the living part of the constant TT drop. Avoid such mistakes when choosing someone you like but in fact he does not deserve any GAA third step points. So let's go back to his person... Lukazz, what were you WRs? Can you name some? Oh, okay, only one. What? 0? It's a joke?

Actually, it's not. Lukazz has never had any single WR and particularly not in the GAA period we are now talking about. Ok, so maybe he had some big development in Internals we might have missed? Let's see his funny post.

Lukazz wrote:
milagros wrote:no offense but how the fuck did you get in?
dunno^^

We can also piont out there a milagros' disgust with the fact which is facing the GAA observers. Treat it as a simple confirmation you're not worth a point here. Next what can we scan? Oh, you responded to milagros' post. You admitted that you do not know why you were chosen. It means that you agree with the fact that your appearance in the list is only a misfortunate incident.

Lukazz wrote:isn't it an achievement to have 38 TT after some 4 years of playing

Wow, man, who do you want to make fun of? You say that you got into 38 after 4 years of playing? You're not even funny, just plaintive. And you call yourself an internalist? Shame on you!

If I were to choose (i've already voted so just try to choose some easy five from the group so it's proved you're a zero there) I would do like that:

Boomer
Jarkko
John
Kowal
Lukazz
OtorK
proDigy
Raven
Xiphias
Zweq

Kowal - At the beginning of the GAA period his TT was about 48 and now he has even a better TT than you do. Easy pick.

OtorK - With his amazing WR in one of the hardest to hoyl levels and being an aggresive internalist he undoubtedly can be ranked higher than you.

Zweq -

Jarkko - I would have to be an idiot to write anything next to Zweq. Comparing you with him is a sin. Jarkko is a very talented hoyla, he hoyls very hard and he is probably relatively very near to the theoretical minimum times in the two levels he plays best - Uphill Battle and Twin Peaks.

John - Ye, the WNO player who's been owning the WR table and having achieved many unbelievable Wrs. Not even comparable I guess

Note: Watch your votes, don't vote for such asslickers not worth a cheap cigarette.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 18 Dec 2007, 00:54

It's fine as to have critique on this and that, but watch your mouth in regards to implying we have our asses licked by lukazz. No need to get personal here.

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 18 Dec 2007, 03:05

berh, may i say you are the most egocentric human being i've ever known?

i know you think the world evolves around you but, that doesn't mean your every thoughts are right.

Saying that Jarkko is, without a doubt, a better internalist than lukazz is totally wrong in my opinion only by the fact that luki has an almost 10 minutes better tt than jarkko (comparing their signatures). I know he's got a few WRs but, that doesn't make him such a better driver than lukazz, if it ever. And for otork, yes he has a sick word record but, he has not improved in many levels this year (for all i remember) comparing to lukazz.

so please stop being such an ass and insulting other kuskis simply for the reason that your judgement is biased by your humongous ego.

... and yeah, no offence to anyone... jarkko, otork, luki and berh

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 18 Dec 2007, 04:37

luki = awesome.

MGZ · Post by **MGZ** » 18 Dec 2007, 10:54

Internalist
1.Zweq
2.John
3.Xiphias

Externalist
1.axxu
2.Raven
3.Bjorn

Battler
1.Xiphias
2.jaytea
3.Bjorn

Rookie
1.Bjorn
2.Hx
3.Smibu

Designer
1.Jappe2
2.Xhomaz
3.zebra

Team
1.WNO

WR
1.01. Warm Up 14,00 Zweq #259
2.24. Ramp Frenzy 42,85 Zweq #265
3.54. Apple Harvest 1:15,25 John #265

Style
1.Zweq's Ramp Frenzy
2.Xiphias's Labyrinth Pro
3.Zweq's Hi Flyer

Replay
1.05. Uphill Battle: 19,96 Jarkko
2.13. Hill Legend: 14,09 axxu
3.LC303.lev: 37,71 axxu

Level
1.byxor197.lev basic indiana jones course by 8-ball
2.LC306.lev The Dead Scene by Xhomaz
3.weed0002.lev whoaaaa man by 8-ball

Contest
1.LOS Cup 3

Contribution
1.milagros: Creating and developing belma; introducing a whole new dimension to Elasto Mania
2.zworqy: Web site, providing temporary belma server, GAA jury member
Jappe2: Making hundreds of belma levels, belma moderating

Achievement
1.milagros: His massive programming skills and the results that come from it; creating a whole new dimension to Elma and bringing in many new players
2.Zweq: Pulling off crazy and legendary styles (Hi Flyer, Ramp Frenzy), helping cut down WR TT considerably. Getting the biggest absolute improvement on a WR since February 2002, and the biggest relative improvement since August 2000. Broke 23 min limit for Combined TT along with Juzam

Site
1.b.attle.info
2.Zworqy's site
3.up.k10x.net

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 18 Dec 2007, 13:22

SveinR wrote:When voting, send a PM to SveinR with your votes.
Do not make your votes public in this thread.
Remember that you don't have to vote in each and every category, but in the categories you do vote in, you have to pick your top 5. Your vote won't count otherwise.

^^

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 18 Dec 2007, 13:51

i guess lukazz is same surprised he got in
38tt is really not hard these days
i guess the only problem was who else to nominate

only these guys got wr in tables 254-277 :
Zweq, Dariuz, Jarkko, milagros, Ded, axxu, Xiphias, Memphis, proDigy, zyntifox, Kazan, John, Tm, OtorK, mr

most of them(us) got in only one or two levs

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 18 Dec 2007, 14:23

ye 38tt > 2 wrs

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 18 Dec 2007, 14:51

nah, 38tt < 2 wrs

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 18 Dec 2007, 14:57

sarcasm much?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 18 Dec 2007, 14:58

why nat kazan as nominee?

Post by **SveinR** » 18 Dec 2007, 14:59

MGZ wrote:[...]

1. Do not make your votes public in this thread, but send them to me in a PM.

2. In the categories you do vote in, you have to pick your top 5 (except in Community Award, where you can vote up to 3 people).