Golden Apple Awards 2008

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 17 Dec 2008, 22:42

zebra wrote:
Lukazz wrote:WTF why does it include recs of Vodim and Zordan (or whatever their names were)?!?? as far as i know these recs are cheated. o__O
oh ye ignore them, they won't be nominated.

phew^^

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 18 Dec 2008, 03:54

i dont get why my botch556 is in the pack, did you make a mistake? this was just random bad lev

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Dec 2008, 07:09

Mawane wrote:i dont get why my botch556 is in the pack, did you make a mistake? this was just random bad lev

I think it was zworqy who liked the level, so it's in the pack.

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 18 Dec 2008, 07:14

lol at some of the replays =D

olp28.lev is missing in the Replays pack but is in the Level zip
just wanted to state that

Costya · Post by **Costya** » 18 Dec 2008, 11:17

zebra wrote:
Mawane wrote:i dont get why my botch556 is in the pack, did you make a mistake? this was just random bad lev
I think it was zworqy who liked the level, so it's in the pack.

was it also zworqy who liked glt106 rec?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 18 Dec 2008, 12:44

No it was not.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Dec 2008, 14:39

Xiphias wrote:lol at some of the replays =D

olp28.lev is missing in the Replays pack but is in the Level zip
just wanted to state that

Ye there might be something missing because I made the packs very quickly. Sorry about that.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 18 Dec 2008, 15:54

not a single ecchi level made the cut :f? and antz483 but not 485 or 497 or 551 =/? wonder if you had more than 10 levels to check from, from me ._. should i have uploaded them all somewhere or was antz483 really the only one worthy?

i mean, there's 40 zebra levels and maybe 2-3 per designer of others, is this reasonable?

edit: well anyway, don't know if it matters at this point but http://up.k10x.net/qjxmrxmuprrsf/antzpile.rar there's 12 levs made in 2008 with recs included that i think are equal to or better than that antz483 which i didn't much like myself because the whole lower right area was annoying.

niN · Post by **niN** » 18 Dec 2008, 16:14

Antz wrote:not a single ecchi level made the cut :f? and antz483 but not 485 or 497 or 551 =/? wonder if you had more than 10 levels to check from, from me ._. should i have uploaded them all somewhere or was antz483 really the only one worthy?

i mean, there's 40 zebra levels and maybe 2-3 per designer of others, is this reasonable?

I kinda agree. But I guess in the end you must nominate your own levels if you like them. Don't expect the scene to remember your works unless it's really special.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 18 Dec 2008, 16:17

niN wrote:I kinda agree. But I guess in the end you must nominate your own levels if you like them. Don't expect the scene to remember your works unless it's really special.

well i added a link to 12 of the better levs i've made to the whine post so hopefully someone watches them =P

(http://up.k10x.net/qjxmrxmuprrsf/antzpile.rar)

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 18 Dec 2008, 16:54

Antz wrote:i mean, there's 40 zebra levels and maybe 2-3 per designer of others, is this reasonable?

But, i think that zebra himself did not choose them, maybe Svein, zwor and others too, but still, have to agree.

And, even there is many players in the jury, the jury players still arent online the whole time.

Sla · Post by **Sla** » 18 Dec 2008, 16:57

Have to agree. wtf!! i hope he doesnt win with 80% of votes. other ppl deserve it.

Post by **SveinR** » 18 Dec 2008, 17:36

1. I don't think those packs are complete.

2. The levs and recs are taken from what the community suggested and jury suggested ones.

3. What matters is what's finally nominated.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Dec 2008, 17:48

Antz wrote:not a single ecchi level made the cut :f? and antz483 but not 485 or 497 or 551 =/? wonder if you had more than 10 levels to check from, from me ._. should i have uploaded them all somewhere or was antz483 really the only one worthy?

i mean, there's 40 zebra levels and maybe 2-3 per designer of others, is this reasonable?

edit: well anyway, don't know if it matters at this point but http://up.k10x.net/qjxmrxmuprrsf/antzpile.rar there's 12 levs made in 2008 with recs included that i think are equal to or better than that antz483 which i didn't much like myself because the whole lower right area was annoying.

hey, you are 2 months late! You should have collected your level pack in the first phase of this GAA and posted it to this thread! Now it's a bit too late. I remember we had just this same conversation last year. You ppl just don't bother looking up the best levs of yours in the first phase and then complain about it later. But well, I can go though that zip and check if there are any good levels there.

The pack isn't very official. I added those 40 levels of mine there just because I wanted to suggest those to jury. Other jury members didn't suggest many levels either. But all the levels they suggested, are there (so there weren't any 'cut'). Of those levels 10 will be chosen to the 3rd phase and i guess there will be max. 2 of my levels so you don't have to worry about that.

Actually, if you look at the pack very closely, you should find all of the levels suggested (=uploaded) in this thread. So, the pack is actually collected by you, so you shouldn't have anything to complain about it.

I checked whether the antz levels were suggested - they were but not uploaded. So we couldn't get them. Would be too much work to search the internet for all the levels.

This might sound that i'm angry at you but no, i'm actually only a bit disappointed. But let's try next year with better luck, won't we? A good habit for everyone would be make a 'best levs' subfolder to his level folder and copy all the good levels there during the year. Would be then ez to paste them here when the time comes next year.

niN · Post by **niN** » 18 Dec 2008, 18:00

this is gonna delay the thing even more

I say lets just stick to the levs that were nominated so we can get started.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 18 Dec 2008, 18:07

About those antz levels, they are very great. Especially the styles and the recs are amazing. The only bad thing in those is that they are really hard.

I updated the rec pack so that it contains all the levs which were missing.

Antz, about ecchi levels, could you upload them here so that we could see them all? Because you will be nominated in art category for those levels. At least I haven't seen them all and don't know if they are downloadable somewhere.

And yes nIN, i agree that we have to move on to the 3rd phase now as fast as possible, so i didn't add the antz levs to the pack. Though SveinR can look at them and nominate what he wants...

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 18 Dec 2008, 19:48

yeah i guess i was too passive. just didn't really feel like advertising myself, since i didn't participate in the first phase. could've zipped and sent all the levels if you'd asked for them. sth like "hmm people have voted kuski x as levdesigner, let's ask him to send his levs so we can evaluate them." maybe in the coming years!..

well, anyways http://up.k10x.net/cmbypgjwhjwzi/ecchi.rar (18+) for the ecchi levels & replays (yes it's missing ecchi16 and 17 i haven't finished them, and 18 and 19 are also antz560 and 563. i didn't have replays for the ecchi## versions so included the original battle levels instead.)

wish i had the energy to wrap it up, remake a few more levels and polish the rest so i could release them in a nice pack, but cba =P. maybe in a year or few.

-> please note that some of the levels have graphics that are not safe for work or children. by downloading the .rar you acknowledge this and promise not to sue me!

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 18 Dec 2008, 19:57

i should have nominated some antti levz, so antti wud nat have to do it himself :X there were quite a few memorable levels, but on the top for me is antz465

yes it's too late but we can always watch the funny style?

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 18 Dec 2008, 23:10

zebra wrote:You ppl just don't bother looking up the best levs of yours in the first phase and then complain about it later.

well... it's seriously true

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 19 Dec 2008, 00:19

finally got that ecchi zip - i've been looking for teh fr months lol.

yes Antz, you will be nominated for art for those for sure, however imo some of them aren't the greatest levels (playability-wise,) but think, if a level of yours gets in, it'll probably win (cause your a good designer)

[/suckup]

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 19 Dec 2008, 02:41

SmaXa wrote:however imo some of them aren't the greatest levels (playability-wise,)

i know, it's part of the reason i haven't been that eager to share them, and as you can notice from the images in 18 and 19, they are remakes of older pics already.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 19 Dec 2008, 07:19

btw antz, how do you make these levels? I mean technically? Or is it a secret?

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 19 Dec 2008, 11:42

hardly a secret =P. i find a nice picture, turn it into black&white in image editor and make sure it's as smooth as possible. then i use vectrast (radim's levmaker) to convert it to a level. it usually still comes out very messy looking so i spend a few hours 'cleaning' it up in regular elma editor. after that it's a matter of finding some useful polygons/surfaces i can build the level around. scaling to proper size in ale of course.

http://up.k10x.net/ucscvrloqpota/ecchi12.gif here's a nice 'work in progress' gif i created while cleaning. the vertex count climbs pretty high with the smoothing =P, ecchi04 and 05 are both close to/at the allowed 5000 vertex limit.

original looks like this: http://up.k10x.net/fpdowwcfsztwe/ecchi12o.jpg
2color version like this: http://up.k10x.net/vggyqlqcqvotc/ecchi12.png

niN · Post by **niN** » 19 Dec 2008, 18:03

that day have passed now sveinr! Have you posted the results with invisible text or something?

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 19 Dec 2008, 18:39

eah! need results!

niN

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 19 Dec 2008, 18:48

oouh, antz465 is impressive

(rec ofc, but lev also coal)

Post by **SveinR** » 19 Dec 2008, 22:23

Third step of the voting process

Here follows the nominees made by the jury.

Internalist
Cap
Jarkko
John
Kazan
Kowal
mr
proDigy
Raven
talli
Zweq

Externalist
adi
Ali
axxu
BoneLESS
Lukazz
Markku
Memphis
NightMar_JNR
Raven
talli

Battler
adi
Ali
axxu
jaytea
Kazan
Kuper
Markku
Smibu
talli
Zweq

Rookie
barryp
Bliz
daniel
GRob
Lumen
Morgan
Pab
Pawq
roope

Designer
Ali
Antz
devin
FinMan
igge
insguy
Jappe2
niN
Ramone
zebra

Team
27
BALL
EPO
EF
HHIT
id
NK
TAP
WNO
xXx

WR
14. Loop-de-Loop 17,61 Zweq #292
18. Spiral 44,42 Kazan #292
22. Slalom 38,92 Raven #288
25. Precarious 24,26 Zweq #290
28. Bounce Back 49,78 Zweq #290
32. Steep Corner 42,60 Zweq #285
33. Zig Zag 55,91 Cap #281
35. Labyrinth Pro 2:14,85 John #288
40. Double Trouble 1:22,42 Quinn #293
44. Freefall 11,46 mr #291

Style
axxu's TEC02
axxu's TEC03
BoneLESS's MRII06B
BoneLESS's MRII09
kd's TEC03
Xiphias's Upside Down
Zweq's Hooked
Zweq's Over and Under
Zweq's Steep Corner
Style pack (the needed levels included)

Replay
13. Hill Legend: 14,01 Xiphias
32. Steep Corner: 42,60 Zweq
35. Labyrinth Pro: 2:14,85 John
Dakar06.lev: 9:57,31 Kopaka
EmC202.lev: 42,50 DeuS
EmC205.lev: 24,86 Kazan
MRII01B.lev: 57,28 Ali
TEC02.lev: 1:02,99 axxu
TEC03.lev: 1:09,68 axxu
TEC03.lev: 1:08,42 kd
Replay pack (the needed levels included)

Level
FMBa242.lev The maestro of tiger skills by FinMan
FMBa243.lev Thor and three pupils by FinMan
nin0009.lev nin0009 by niN
OYLP01.lev I designer by zebra
OYLP05.lev Dropped by umiz
Ram281.lev Impotant by Ramone
snaab103.lev blubb by igge
TEC03.lev Tyrant by Jappe2
TEC06K.lev Tranquility version K by zebra
vjx0b07.lev vj horror II by Ville J
Level Pack

Contest
27JJ
Cok0k Open Cup
Dakar Internal Cup
Error Sacred Cup
Goliath Cup
HER Cup
MÃ¤ster RÃ¤cer II: Pair Play
One Year Level Pack
Summer Cup 2008
TAP Elimination Cup

Contribution
Coco: Improving his Run Replay Online application, doing TT stats on lauta
John: Writing WR news, GAA jury member
Kopaka: Working on the new Elma Online site, GAA jury member
milagros: Working on the next belma version
niN: Cup organizer (MÃ¤ster RÃ¤cer II), good handling of cheating situation
px: Updating WRs
Ramone: Making tons of good levels for belma (more than 700 at least)
SveinR: GAA organizer, Multi WR site, lauta admin
zebra: Various contests, Elma Level Archive, Moposite Playing Levels, GAA jury member, doing Moposite glossary
zworqy: Maintaining the belma server, GAA jury member

Achievement
adi: Getting all Pipo records in one table
John: Keeping the number 1 spot in internal TT, nearing the 36min limit (36:04,96 now)
Kazan: Improving his TT greatly, and beating one of the oldest WRs ever (Spiral, having stood for 108 tables)
mr: Beating what was the oldest WR ever at the time (Freefall, having stood for 114 tables)
proDigy: Getting 36min TT, thereby being the fourth kuski to achieve that
Raven: Getting great internal times and WRs, and improving his TT greatly
Zweq: His amount of WRs, reaching the top of the most improvements statistic, beating TorInge. Continued style-innovation.

Site
Elasto Mania Club
Elma Online
Kopasite
MEMO
NK team site
nindex
MÃ¤ster RÃ¤cer II site
TAP team site
Zworqy's site

Art
Antz: Ecchi levels and battle levels (archives contain a selection of those)
Binder: Dakar Internal Cup trailer
Bjorn: External Movie 3
Leeland: Pictures
Mawane: Meli-Meli video
niN: MÃ¤ster RÃ¤cer II movie
Jappe2: TEC movies
Polarix: Super Mario LGR
Snaddle: Elastomania: What If?! video
tijsjoris: Sickest replay ever movie

Community Award
This will be an award decided entirely by the community. You will vote for the people you think most deserve a special honour, be it for their helpfulness, kindness, contributions or simply for being a great player. The reason will be the individual voters' own decision. The idea is that the award will go to the kuski most appreciated by the community. There will be no set of candidates to vote over in this category, each voter decides himself.
The voting process for this award is therefore different, see below.

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You are only eligible to vote if you are one of the following kuskis (why?) (listed in alphabetical order):

adi, Bismuth, Cap_27, Coc0k, Costya, error, ExTeC, FinMan, Igge, insane guy, Jappe, kjozgi, Kowal, Labs, Lukazz, Markku, Mawane, Memphis, Mika_27, milagros, Morgan, niN, OtorK, Pascal, Pawq, sla, SmaXa, Smibu, Staar, The_BoneLESS, tijsjoris, totem, wiElOryB, Xiphias

Remember that you don't have to vote in each and every category, but in the categories you do vote in, you have to pick your top 5. Your vote won't count otherwise.
In all categories: Only base your votes on what has happened in the GAA period.
Site: Vote for the sites that have improved the most and increased its relevance the most over the GAA period.
WRs: See http://www.moposite.com/records_elma_wrs.php

When voting, send a PM to SveinR with your votes. The votes have to be given in ranked order, from 1st to 5th. Each 1st position will give 5 points, each 2nd position will give 4 points, etc. The jury will assemble these points when the voting process has ended. You can only vote and send a PM once. Do not make your votes public in this thread.

Voting for the Community Award: You will list up to 3 people, in ranked order from 1st to 3rd. Each 1st position will give 5 points, each 2nd position will give 3 points and each 3rd position will give 1 point. Send your votes in this category in the same PM as your other votes. You do not have to vote in this category. I would encourage people to write a few words about the people you vote for (if you have something specific to mention), because when we present the winner of this category, we'll include your reasons behind voting for him in some sort of speech. Which will be based on what you've written.

Deadline of sending in your votes: Friday January 9th 2009, 23:59 EET (GMT+2)
Note: The GAA08 period is from December 17th 2007 to December 15th 2008.

Memphis · Post by **Memphis** » 19 Dec 2008, 22:41

Nice. Thanks for doing that SveinR

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 19 Dec 2008, 23:15

uhh SveinR its amazing, and i hope appreciated (at least by me)
was kinda unexpected that i am nominated in Rookie category ;p anyway have a lot work to do to make my votes righteous

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 19 Dec 2008, 23:23

what? Kazan is not even in Externalist with all those sick results and victories for cups

and, btw, totem is not new, its just a new nick. old one was ElToto, he's french and he started playing in 2003

I encourage everybody to prepare a speech if you are nominated in any category.

Post by **SveinR** » 20 Dec 2008, 00:01

Mawane wrote:btw, totem is not new, its just a new nick. old one was ElToto, he's french and he started playing in 2003

Thanks, I'll remove him if I get a confirmation.

totem · Post by **totem** » 20 Dec 2008, 02:04

confirmation

Post by **SveinR** » 20 Dec 2008, 02:09

totem wrote:confirmation

Thanks.

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 20 Dec 2008, 02:44

also, is daniel just danielj? (Slender Belly) or somesuch guy on belma i haven't heard of?

Post by **SveinR** » 20 Dec 2008, 02:49

SmaXa wrote:also, is daniel just danielj? (Slender Belly) or somesuch guy on belma i haven't heard of?

He's not danielj (better known as Dani) or Daniel Santo. He's Danish.

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 20 Dec 2008, 03:33

kay. sent my votes to you via PM.

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 20 Dec 2008, 09:40

I heard about that Lumen is some Russian oldschooler. Atleast in belma they said he had some cool elma team. Many players from there (russian allof them) started again on belma.

So, please ask him yourself that when he started, and did he have that team, because im not 100% sure of that.

OtorK · Post by **OtorK** » 20 Dec 2008, 10:23

lol at rookie cathegory...

Post by **SveinR** » 20 Dec 2008, 12:28

FinMan wrote:I heard about that Lumen is some Russian oldschooler. Atleast in belma they said he had some cool elma team. Many players from there (russian allof them) started again on belma.

So, please ask him yourself that when he started, and did he have that team, because im not 100% sure of that.

Ok, but it doesn't matter when he started playing elma, only when he entered the scene.

niN · Post by **niN** » 20 Dec 2008, 13:13

Thanks SveinR and the rest of the jury

FinMan · Post by **FinMan** » 20 Dec 2008, 13:34

SveinR wrote:Ok, but it doesn't matter when he started playing elma, only when he entered the scene.

So, every Russian, Polish or hungarian player who has never logged into lauta or belma and has been active on their own sites activately since they was created, is Rookie?

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 20 Dec 2008, 13:35

LOLOL at my nomination for externalist! i have exactly 1 good external record, OYLP29. didn't hoyl any other external for more than 1 hour during last GAA period... but i've hoyled 100 of hours internals... well whatever.

John · Post by **John** » 20 Dec 2008, 13:52

FinMan wrote:
SveinR wrote:Ok, but it doesn't matter when he started playing elma, only when he entered the scene.
So, every Russian, Polish or hungarian player who has never logged into lauta or belma and has been active on their own sites activately since they was created, is Rookie? :beer:

Do you think NHL for example take into consideration if Vladimir from Russia started playing hockey when he was 8 or 23 years old when voting him for Rookie of the year?

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 20 Dec 2008, 14:48

i am done

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 20 Dec 2008, 14:59

Don't write them here Cap, send it in PM to SveinR

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 20 Dec 2008, 15:02

Kopaka wrote:Don't write them here Cap, send it in PM to SveinR

thx Kopaka

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 20 Dec 2008, 15:11

Jappe wrote:i was wandering who is the first mongo to post them here is, cap teh winner

niN · Post by **niN** » 20 Dec 2008, 16:45

I submitted my votes! now for the long wait again

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 20 Dec 2008, 23:07

I think totem should be replaced by me in the rookie category

I'm sending my vote right now

Jarkko · Post by **Jarkko** » 21 Dec 2008, 00:00

Lolz, why I am nominated for internalist? At TT of 44 min, what the hell?