FFS

[Bismuth]

I'm pissed off. Look at the scene right now. No, look at it, really.

First: lauta.
40% is non-elma related (that's ok, I've got nothing against it);
55% IS THORZE-RELATED;
5% is elma talk.

That's not normal.

Second: belma.
When Thorze is online, chat is spammed with Thorze whining, PJ mongoing, igge commenting, many laughing and just adding more shit. I know, I participated to that spam. Yes, I did.

Now, here's the problem. There is an eternal fight, Thorze vs. the world. It'll never end, because both sides are just very, very, very resistant. Thorze always comes up, everyday, with new tricks: blacklist, fucked up cup, topics to ask for ban, topics for his new times, etc.; the world is always there to fight back with insults, jokes and everything. When will it stop? When will one of the sides will understand? When will there be serious action taken?

Thorze, sorry if you find it mean, but you've gone so much too far. Don't ask why, reasons would take pages and pages, just so much of insulting and whining and every single fucking moron thing you did, it's impossible to even imagine. People, face it, it is more than enough now. Yes, we all know Thorze is an idiot, but damn, hell, shit, fuck, please turn the page someday. Ignore.

SveinR, zworqy and whoever can ban, I'd like so much if you banned Thorze for one month. belma and lauta. People have been complaining in the past because of not enough banhammer, I think now is a great time to complain. I think when one person is hated by everyone and making shit topics and insulting many others and just, generally, behaving like a headless dinosaur, a ban could be well deserved.

Now, I know making a new topic, again, just adds more to the thing. The intention is not to talk about Thorze, but more about all of you (including me). Stop all this mess, please. For fuck's sake?

[Grace]

Agreed wholeheartedly.

[Bludek]

yea, 1 month ban is ok. Maybe he will realize after that how to talk to other people.

[Zweq]

?? belma chat are god now) plz no change

[FinMan]

Bis I agree totally, too much Thorze in the scene.

[pawq]

The Elmaland King, Bismuth the first. The one who speaks reasonably. However i suppose that Thorze while banned would not think. he would flood msn and irc or whatever he could, whining WHY he was banned. he would not understand. then he would come back after one month and insult everyone again, for his ban that time. fearful this vision is, honestly

[Hosp]

Fuck this topic, its all the way as mine that said to ban someone.


AND: I am just mean to people that is mean to me! It's only you guys doing this: WTF SHIT TIME THORZE GO TO HELL! I HAD 15 WRS IN MY FIRST MONTH FUCK YOU½!!!
And you make pictures of me having ugly sex, that's also insulting, should I just let it be like : THAT'S TOTALLY ME FUCK YEAH!!! ?? Would I ? No I won't, because that isn't right for me.

And whne Pawq posted pic of me, do you think that's me? No that's not me they're just making fun of me, should I just let them thing that that's me without being able to say anything? REALLY, STOPIT. I NEVER had intention to be mean to people it's ONLY YOU GUYS THAT CAN'T WELCOME NEW PEOPLE RIGHT, only some people, this is only for the mean guys, roope and the others thats nice don't have to do a change.

[roope]

I knew it deep in my heart that Bismuth was a man of reason.

This really has gone over the top, it's an never ending cycle. You guys aren't giving Thorze even a chance to show that he can change, as even if he isn't doing anything, you still keep dissing him.
Espesially Pawq, who really seems to be bitter and have something personal involved in this. Maybe he has a need to prove that he's "in the hood" now? Seems so. He used to be in quite a similar position where Thorze is now. I see many connections here, the need to show skills and usefulness for example. But we gave Pawq a chance to get up from the pit, so why can't he do the same to Thorze? i wander.

[The_BoneLESS]

This topic will have the exact opposite of what Bismuth wanted. We'll only talk more about Thorze.

My suggestion is: lock this topic and let Thorze breathe for a couple of weeks.

[Zweq]

with those penis levs and such it went overboard, too serious mongoing for my taste ;(

[Mielz]

My opinion: give Thorze some 3weeks for changing his behaviour. If that doesnt help, ban for 2 weeks or month, dunno. That should be last chance to let him understand the problem. Not reacting will make him think he does nothing bad.

Thorze, dont keep attention on you because it will get worse and worse. Try to understand others, not only thinking ''FUCK YOU NABS GO BAN URSELF, YOU ARE NOT NICE''. And dont find this post mean, Im trying to explain you that if you change your behavior, noone will be agressive to you. But this is you who must think about it and do something. Really.

[Chris]

This post was made by Thorze who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

[Fredrik]

it's ONLY YOU GUYS THAT CAN'T WELCOME NEW PEOPLE RIGHT

you're wrong, I've had nothing but friendly talks with people after joining the scene, well, exept you.
When I first joined I was nervous about how I would be welcomed as a beginner. I didn't say much here or on belma, because I didn't want to bother people before I got to know the scene better. Maybe you should consider doing something similair, try to adjust your behaviour to fit in, rather than trying to force everyone else to adjust to you.

Also, I agree 100% with what Bis said

[Igge]

try to adjust your behaviour to fit in, rather than trying to force everyone else to adjust to you.

This.

[Zweq]

EYAH adept yuor behafior to across ¨=)

[Hosp]

Whate you mean?

[Xiphias]

ok

[Juish]

i think it is a subconcious attention grabbing problem for thorze, the only reason he keeps nabbing is because he keeps getting a response outta people, and because of these responses it makes him feel famous(or infamous) cause he is everywhere on the scene, so why would he stop? Only solution is every single person ignore every single post, comment, belma chat, irc chat, he makes; disacknowlege his existance and the problem will fix itself, he will soon realize what etiquette is.

[Hosp]

I never did anything wrong BEFORE anyone did something to me I only responsed to the others meanness.

[Juish]

does that make it right to do something back though? you couldve been calmer then everyone by ignoring everyones comments towards you and speak with your dropping internal times instead.

[Hosp]

dropping internal times? That's mean, you also was a beginner at the beginning.

[Fredrik]

Of course ha was. The reason he isn't anymore is that he has hoyled a lot, rather than acting stupid on belma, irc and lauta, you should try that actually.

[Bismuth]

The intention is not to talk about Thorze, but more about all of you (including me).

Need I say more, Thorze?


This topic is taking a very wrong turn, as it would inevitably do, since Thorze read it and started arguing with others. Now, this topic can be locked before it becomes even worse, and I really hope everyone understands my message. Let him alone for once.

[Hosp]

They argued with me, I didn't argue with them.

[Pab]

Whats the meaning of FFS?

[pawq]

For Fuck's Sake

[Ecchi]

They argued with me, I didn't argue with them.

There has to be two sides for an argument to exist

[Lousku]

Let's all take a moment to appreciate mr. Thorslund's new ways.

[Ecchi]

necrophilia? gravedig much D:

[A.K.B.]

Thoze + dicks = harmony.

[Igge]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Hosp is easily one of the most impressive people in the scene. His swift transformation from nab to man is unprecedented. Way more mature than most people here)

[A.K.B.]

Still not man enough to keep a cool name. Oh wait it was stolen from a good player.

Thorze pooface.

[Hosp]

Stolen from a good player? I stole Thorze from my brother and he never really played Elma, but dunno really what you meant.

[FinMan]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again; Hosp is easily one of the most impressive people in the scene. His swift transformation from nab to man is unprecedented. Way more mature than most people here)

xd

[Tigro]

Stolen from a good player? I stole Thorze from my brother and he never really played Elma, but dunno really what you meant.

never had the will (or heart) to stole nick from my BROTHER..

[A.K.B.]

Nick Hosp from Hospital.

[Hosp]

Ohh, yeah but didn't think about that when I came up with the nick.
If I remember correctly I took the word 'jinchuriki' or something like that from the Japanese and I think it was 'host' in English or so
mething, and then I just removed the 't' and added a 'p'. Not the best nick, pretty ugly but it will do, orka nickchanges.

Edit: ohh, I realized you probably meant the kuski Hospital. :) Sorry I stole your nick Hospital. But I think he quit so he probably don't care.

[Bismuth]

Let's all agree that it was a masterpiece of a rant

[A.K.B.]

What rant?

Poos.