Golden Apple Awards 2010

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 20 Dec 2010, 12:35

damn i was about to suggest sveirn to all categories

A.K.B. · Post by **A.K.B.** » 21 Dec 2010, 16:25

nom nom nominating igge for pigge of the year.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 21 Dec 2010, 20:54

i have a question:
why noone nominate jaytea for battler?

i saw my name in Battler, i bet even obama would pwn me :s
imo battlers should be:
zweq
jaytea
kazan

this is just my opinion but really.. lol

jonsykkel · Post by **jonsykkel** » 21 Dec 2010, 21:36

why didnt put that in your post then :D

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 21 Dec 2010, 21:40

the matter here is WHO suggested Zero for battler ? ? ?? ???

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 21 Dec 2010, 22:04

These aren't nominations, they're suggestions for nominations. And it doesn't matter how many times someone is mentioned since the jury will read every post.

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 22 Dec 2010, 11:45

jonharkulsykkel wrote:why didnt put that in your post then

This is good post. Everyone should read.

Juish · Post by **Juish** » 31 Dec 2010, 03:16

damn, i got no suggestions for designer

Pab · Post by **Pab** » 31 Dec 2010, 14:41

levels are suggested already?

Post by **SveinR** » 31 Dec 2010, 15:03

Pab wrote:levels are suggested already?

Hm? We haven't filled 10 nominations to any categories yet.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 31 Dec 2010, 15:15

you mean you still haven't decided or are there too little suggestions?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 31 Dec 2010, 15:29

There can never be too few suggestions.

Post by **SveinR** » 31 Dec 2010, 16:04

Pawq wrote:you mean you still haven't decided or are there too little suggestions?

The decision process takes time, to ensure the best possible candidates are nominated

But if anyone has some max suggestions no one's come with yet, by all means let yourselves be heard. The deadline for submitting so you can vote later on, has passed however.

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 3 Jan 2011, 13:09

Damez, I wanted to wait with my first nominating ever til the whole year was over, now I find out it's too late, for example I wanted to nominate Mika wr 02.
And now I can't even vote in 3rd step? wate system is this ;x

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 3 Jan 2011, 15:41

Post by **SveinR** » 3 Jan 2011, 16:34

Björn wrote:Damez, I wanted to wait with my first nominating ever til the whole year was over, now I find out it's too late, for example I wanted to nominate Mika wr 02.
And now I can't even vote in 3rd step? wate system is this ;x

SveinR on Moposite news page wrote:The voting process for the Golden Apple Awards 2010 has begun. Note that you have to make suggestions in the First Step in order to be able to vote in the Third Step later on.

SveinR in first post of GAA10 topic wrote:Voting rules
See 'Instructions of the voting process' below. Be aware that you have to make some suggestions in the First Step in order to be able to vote later on.

SveinR in 'Instructions of the voting process', second post in the GAA10 topic wrote:First step:
You can reply to this topic and tell your favourite candidates in the different categories. Please list clearly the category and then the suggestion(s). Note: You are not allowed to vote in the third step unless you give any suggestions (one is compulsory but more are recommended) in this step. Arguments are appreciated. Also, when it comes to categories such as Replay, Level, Style and Art, it would be of great help if you could provide attachments/links to the specific suggestions. Note that having posted suggestions in the GAA suggestions thread doesn't matter, you have to post in this topic!

Deadline: Sunday 19 December, 23:59 EET (GMT+2)

Don't complain about not being told the rules...

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 3 Jan 2011, 16:49

Haha bjorn... Don't try to blame this on anyone else but yourself, just because everyone else was smart enough to read and understand the rules.

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 3 Jan 2011, 17:20

I complain about the rules then =)
But anyway, if I wanted to nominate 02 Mika wr I would have to wait til next GAA? It's like nominate a wr from 2010 which will be announced 2012 (if it wins).

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 3 Jan 2011, 17:44

As you can see, it has already been nominated by someone else. So the only harm is that you can't vote in step 3. You can't nominate it in the next GAA either because it was driven in 2010.

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 3 Jan 2011, 17:57

And even if it weren't mentioned already, you could mention it anyway. That wouldn't let you vote in the 3rd step, though.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Jan 2011, 01:08

Bucket: Bjorn

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 5 Jan 2011, 15:09

I must defend Bjorn a bit. Since the GAA 2010 period is January 1st 2010 - December 31st 2010, it might have been logical that the suggestion step ended in December 31st. But anyway if you miss the deadline for whatever reason, it's of course a no-can-do situation.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 5 Jan 2011, 15:21

It still wouldn't be logical to post on the third of January 2011.

nick-o-matic · Post by **nick-o-matic** » 5 Jan 2011, 19:17

Hmm yeah.

gimp · Post by **gimp** » 5 Jan 2011, 23:44

SveinR wrote:The deadline for submitting your suggestions has passed!

SveinR said this on Dec20th

SveinR wrote:As was decided last year, the GAA period for any given year goes from January 1st to December 31st. So for GAA 2010 then, the period from when to choose your nominees is: January 1st 2010 - December 31st 2010.

This was in the first post for GAA topic.

It would only make sense to let people give the nominations of the year for the entire year in case something comes up like Mikas case where he got his wr after SveinR shut down nominations. Now Mika can not be nominated for next year's GAA or this years, let all kuskis know now not to get a wr during Dec 20th - Jan 1st from now on i guess.

Edit: okay i guess Mika's wr was on the 19th but still not much time to nominate him!

niN · Post by **niN** » 6 Jan 2011, 00:39

Well, Just because some achievements etc. was not mentioned by the community doesn't mean they will not be taken into consideration by the jury. The main reason why you make your suggestions is to take part in the third step. The jury will then find ten appropriate candidates for each category from the GAA period. So if gimp drives 13,99 in wu on the 31th of Dec, the jury can still elect that to the wr category.

Post by **SveinR** » 6 Jan 2011, 00:51

Yeah, like niN says. The community suggestions are just that, suggestions. Nominees can be chosen outside of those suggestions (though the jury obviously takes what the community says strongly into consideration). The nomination process for the jury starts so late in December that no categories will have their full top 10 nominees done before the end of the year, so there's no problem for stuff happening late in the year to be recognized.

ville_j · Post by **ville_j** » 6 Jan 2011, 00:58

BEWARE — WE ARE OBSERVING YOU, EVEN DURING Dec 20th - Jan 1st.

gimp · Post by **gimp** » 6 Jan 2011, 02:03

well well let it be known that i am suggesting that Mika be nominated for best wr of the year! i know that you jury members arent 'officially' supposed to take my suggestion into strong consideration anymore but i still know that mentally you actually are just because you're reading this. you wont be able to sleep tonight because you know that you aren't supposed to be thinking about what i have to say but by trying to not think about it you have totally screwed yourself and until the day you all have to collaborate together and decide who is nominated and who is not Mikas flat track wr will surely be in the back of your minds eating and gnawing at you. if you dont nominate his wr i would be convinced you only did it to spite me in which case that would be very selfish of you cause Mika did nothing wrong i was the one who made this post not him. so hah!

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 6 Jan 2011, 02:15

I did suggest Mika (and I was the first to do so, whee, do I get a prize or something) before the suggestions ended. I also mentioned it was the only thing I could suggest that hadn't already been said, spending you hours of reading my post!

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 6 Jan 2011, 15:17

Bismuth wrote:I did suggest Mika (and I was the first to do so, whee, do I get a prize or something) before the suggestions ended. I also mentioned it was the only thing I could suggest that hadn't already been said, spending you hours of reading my post!

No, I was the first.

Post by **SveinR** » 6 Jan 2011, 18:27

If Mika ends up getting nominated, whoever was first can take full credit.

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 10 Jan 2011, 20:19

I nominated Mika minutes after the WR was on table ;P

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 12 Jan 2011, 10:43

who the hell is mika?

... dame nice wr ;o~

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 16 Jan 2011, 05:01

I nomitaneded mika before allz off u does

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 17 Jan 2011, 14:37

When is GAA gala?

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 17 Jan 2011, 14:48

Expect somewhere around the time it was last year. (that was feb 7.)

Bismuth · Post by **Bismuth** » 18 Jan 2011, 06:39

feb 7, my birthday )))

Post by **SveinR** » 20 Jan 2011, 00:58

Yeah, Sunday February 6th or Sunday February 13th, one of those dates. You can voice your opinions here if you'd prefer a different day than a Sunday, but I guess that's the preferred weekday among most people.

Post by **SveinR** » 30 Jan 2011, 18:47

Third step of the voting process

Here follow the nominees made by the jury.

Internalist
Bjorn
GRob
John
Kazan
Madness
Mika
Raven
romy4
talli
Zweq

Externalist
adi
anpdad
FinMan
Jeppe
Kazan
Lukazz
Markku
Pab
romy4
VT

Battler
adi
anpdad
GRob
Kazan
Madness
Markku
Pab
talli
Xiphias
Zweq

Rookie
domi
jblaze
jonharkulsykkel
Kortsu
Lousku
Mrrr
Phlaim
Weep
Zid

Designer
bEAT
Dreamhunter
igge
Jeppe
Kazeta
Koopa
Mawane
Pab
Ramone
Ville_J

Team
27
BAP
EPO
EF
KFC
MiE
NGT
NK
SPEED
WNO

WR
02. Flat Track: 14,90 Mika #326
03. Twin Peaks: 17,55 Kazan #324
04. Over and Under: 29,16 Zweq #324
09. Tunnel Terror: 51,88 Zweq #315
31. Animal Farm: 1:10,59 John #307
34. Bumpy Journey: 36,37 Madness #319
40. Double Trouble: 1:20,41 Kazan #307
50. Expert System: 51,32 Bjorn #320
51. Tricks Abound: 41,79 Kazan #318
52. Hang Tight: 11,00 Zweq & Morgan #145 (Multi WR)

Style
BoneLESS's mpqpi12 style
CuLiNo's Over and Under
Kazan's Twin Peaks
John's Animal Farm
John's Double Trouble
romy4's and anpdad's Bounce Back
romy4's and Bjorn's Expert System
romy4's and Kazan's Apple Harvest
romy4's Framework
Zweq's sahtia04 style
Style pack (the needed levels included)

Replay
16. New Wave: 1:16,64 Zweq
31. Animal Farm: 1:10,59 John
35. Labyrinth Pro: 2:13,43 John
JoPi46.lev: 36,45 Pab
MiEPC102.lev: 1:28,05 Kazan
MiEPC107.lev: 1:05,39 Kazan
MOPOCO08.lev: 39,51 Pab
MpqPenni.lev: 33,10 Weep
sahtia04.lev: 8,00 Zweq
TalviC07.lev: 36,98 Rooker
Replay pack (the needed levels included)

Level
cp050ff.lev teh ff omg sick bleh by Chip
Hi000012.lev Jesus Christ by Jeppe
jon001.lev Deth Appels by jonharkulsykkel
mwa0006.lev New Level by Mawane
Pob0207.lev Heavy Islands by Pab
Pob0241.lev Almost no Sense by Pab
TalviC02.lev Gravity Pipe by Ville_J
vjx3b62.lev Cube 2 Hypercube by Ville_J
WinCup07.lev Superstar by Zero
WinCup08.lev ATC by Zero
Level pack

Contest
Dakar Cup 3
Juish Lev Packs
Kopasite King List
Lovely Cup
MiE Pipe Cup
Mission: Belma
Rambo Cup
RIP Level Pack
Talvi Cup
WinCup

Contribution
Domovoy: Creating the Big Book of Elma Facts site
John: Sharing a nice bunch of WR replays, manages the JoPi contest
jonharkulsykkel: Creating the Elmastats page, organized WinCup 2010, created various programs for belma/eol
Kopaka: Providing the Elma Online site, updates Kopasite, GAA jury member
Madness: Providing the Top 10 internal times list
milagros: Created and manages Elasto Mania Online (EOL), the main stage for elma playing the past years
niN: The driving force behind the ambitious Internal Memories project (Elma 10 year anniversary video), GAA jury member
Smibu: Created and manages the Elmanager program
SveinR: GAA organizer, Multi WR updater, Mopolauta admin
totem: Made the NEW! program

Achievement
Ded: Getting a WR on Flat Track when being over 60 years old
GRob: Becoming #1 in EOL battle stats at the end of 2010
hehe: Getting his total time under 40 minutes (to 38.xx) while having played elma for only about 1.5 years
Jeppe: Raid on Kopasite, taking a huge bunch of records (over 200)
Kazan: Taking huge leaps towards the top of the internalists with several WRs and 36.1x total time
milagros: Creating a fully working online gaming environment for Elasto Mania (EOL)
Pab: Taking all JoPi records in one table
romy4: Coming up with many styles in different internal levels, getting WR on Expert System with new style
talli: Having the highest amount of battle wins (564) and the highest win percentage (48%) of all in 2010
Zweq: Taking the #1 spot in total times

Site
Big Book of Elma Facts
Elma Online
jon's Elmastats
JoPi site
Kopaka's cup site template (___.sshoyer.net, several examples of its use in the Contest category)
Kopasite
LOS site
Recsource
Zebra's site
Zworqy's site

Art
DaFred: Mission: Belma
Jappe2: Zweq Tunnel Terror replays merge video
John: Double Trouble tutorial video
jonharkulsykkel: terminal.lgr
jonharkulsykkel: jon001.lev trailer
Leeland: Banana Cup 1 promo picture
Lousku: Team Bananapple Promo Movie 2010 and VDQ videos
Mawane: Horse picture in elma lev
niN, Jappe2 and crew: Internal Memories Elma 10 year anniversary video
Pab: MiEPC104.lev

Community Award
This is an award decided entirely by the community. You will vote for the people you think most deserve a special honour, be it for their helpfulness, kindness, contributions or simply for being a great player. The reason will be the individual voters' own decision. The idea is that the award will go to the kuski most appreciated by the community. There will be no set of candidates to vote over in this category, each voter decides himself.
The voting process for this award is therefore different, see below.

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You are only eligible to vote if you are one of the following kuskis (why?) (listed in alphabetical order):

adi, analcactus, anpdad, Bismuth, Björn, Bludek, Cap, Chris, Crazy, CuLiNo, FinMan, Gioel, Haruhi, Hosp, igge, Ismo, Jappe, Jarkko, jblaze, John, jonharkulsykkel, Kiiwi, Koopa, Kortsu, Labs, Lousku, Lukazz, Madness, Markku, Mawane, Mielz, milagros, Mika_27, Morgan, nick-o-matic, Pab, Pawq, ramone, romy4, totem, twipleyy, Ves, Xarthok, Xhomaz, Xiphias, ZeroNSB, Zid, Zweq

Voting instructions: When voting, send a PM to SveinR with your votes. The votes have to be given in ranked order, from 1st to 5th. Each 1st position will give 5 points, each 2nd position will give 4 points, etc. The jury will assemble these points when the voting process has ended. You can only vote and send a PM once. Do not make your votes public in this thread.
Remember that you don't have to vote in each and every category, but in the categories you do vote in, you have to pick your top 5. Your vote won't count otherwise.

Voting for the Community Award: You will list up to 3 people, in ranked order from 1st to 3rd. Each 1st position will give 5 points, each 2nd position will give 3 points and each 3rd position will give 1 point. Send your votes in this category in the same PM as your other votes. You do not have to vote in this category. I would strongly encourage people to write a few words about the people you vote for (if you have something specific to mention), because when we present the winner of this category, we'll include your reasons behind voting for him in some sort of speech. This speech will be based on what you've written.

In all categories: Only base your votes on what has happened in the GAA period.
Site: Vote for the sites that have improved the most and increased their relevance the most over the GAA period.
WRs: See http://www.moposite.com/records_elma_wrs.php

Deadline of sending in your votes: Tuesday February 8th 2011, 23:59 EET (GMT+2)
Note: The GAA10 period is from January 1st 2010 to December 31st 2010.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 30 Jan 2011, 18:52

terrible nominations. i can't even remember that i played externals in 2010.

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 30 Jan 2011, 20:03

External scene is not very active, but at least you played some on LOS site.

Mielz · Post by **Mielz** » 30 Jan 2011, 20:06

Agree these nominations arent good... just some of my thoughts:

- Raven and talli in internalist - surely they have some skill for ints, but did they make more than some 2-3 random pr's in 2010? if so, ok

- rookie: Phlaim admitted he did play some 5 years ago but dunno if in scene, Weep already had Flat Track wr under another nick like Viktu or sach, he admitted it (16,6x?), also nat really sure about Lousku and jonharkulmopo

- romy4 and anpdad 28 style was known, maybe thats first finished public rec with that but saveloaded, is that fair? also YEAHS only used this style for 04 but Culino was the inventor of teh if remember right

- Zweq's new wave 1.16 rec includes bug (obviously) with only average riding at most, is that fair again?

Ofc not wanna be offensive to anyone :S, just some things i noticed, thxthx

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 30 Jan 2011, 20:24

rookie nominations very funny, ill just vote for those whom i like most :D i think it was agreed before that the line is very thin and that the jury will simply decide whether to get somebody through or not :)
also lollled haaaard after seeing zweq's bugged nw 1.16 in rec nominations :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

and havent seen jon's jon001.lev promo vid before, MAX LOL I LOVE JON OMG <3

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 30 Jan 2011, 20:37

Orcc wrote:External scene is not very active, but at least you played some on LOS site.

haha oh right, i forgot about that.

Mawane · Post by **Mawane** » 30 Jan 2011, 20:47

here are some replays for the levels category:
http://up.k10x.net/ljdluefrkzuwn/cp050ffM.rec by Markku
http://up.k10x.net/tynawininkbjy/Hi000012_186nob.rec by nobody
the battle information (no replay since its apple battle) http://beta.elmaonline.net/?s=stats&p=l ... &aftorder=
same with this: http://beta.elmaonline.net/?s=battles&b=3624
http://up.k10x.net/imneynpkyylzd/Pob0207_263Zer.rec by zero
http://up.k10x.net/ssflllrjrbyty/Pob0241Pab.rec
http://talvicup.oktobia.org/dlrec.php?rec=127&e=2 by Rooker
http://up.k10x.net/diiisxkhdywnk/vjx3b62Bone.rec by BoneLESS
http://wincup.netne.net/dlrec.php?rec=129&e=7 by Kopaka
http://wincup.netne.net/dlrec.php?rec=135&e=8 by Cfilorvy
If someone wants to make zip pack and upload on permanent url, feel free to do it.

Post by **SveinR** » 30 Jan 2011, 21:54

We appreciate criticism, but here's a thought for everyone next year:

Include comments to your nominee suggestions. That makes it much easier to distinguish the candidates. The vast majority of the suggestions are just a name, nothing else. I don't mean to say the jury can't figure stuff out by themselves, but again, it makes the job much easier.

If Phlaim played 5 years ago that doesn't matter as long as it was not in the scene. Neither of us knew about Weep/Vikto, that should be looked into..

About Rookie: We had discussions about replacing it with a Breakthrough category, where really no lines would have to be drawn. It could be difficult to decide what's a breakthrough or not though. Ultimately we didn't change Rookie or add Breakthrough category, but what would your thoughts be towards such a category?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 30 Jan 2011, 23:41

Mielz wrote:Zweq's new wave 1.16 rec includes bug (obviously) with only average riding at most, is that fair again?

u mad

That rec is one of the coolest I've ever seen.

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 31 Jan 2011, 04:12

SveinR wrote:52. Hang Tight: 11,00 Zweq & Morgan #145 (Multi WR)

lol ez 10,4x in 5 minutes
http://up.k10x.net/ehfhxpxbgqnea/52mults.rec

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » 31 Jan 2011, 07:28

CuLiNo wrote:
SveinR wrote:52. Hang Tight: 11,00 Zweq & Morgan #145 (Multi WR)
lol ez 10,4x in 5 minutes
http://up.k10x.net/ehfhxpxbgqnea/52mults.rec

you are far, far away from flower i see