Since a lot has been said about this case, much of it untrue, I will try to make clear what happened (and since pab and berh is publicly talking about it I believe it's okay to do so too).
A user mentioned to me that he had seen them cheat online (head through walls) and that they talked about it in chat. So I read the chat, checked error logging aswell as the times they had driven during that time. berh made a 2 hour time in warm up with other times driven just about 1 minutes before and after which makes making a 2 hour time impossible ofcourse, and fitted with stuff he said in chat. Error log could tell me about the invulnerability and along with the impossible time in steppes (aswell as mawana's screenshot for that matter) proves that Pab was using cheat online aswell.
At first I didn't do anything but after a little chat about it in EOL mods channel it was clear all thought Pab should have some sort of ban atleast, so I gave it, 2 weeks felt like too little so gave 1 year which might be too much, but as Jappe said it isn't set it stone.
berh managed to get playing rights some time ago with some fake nick, I never wanted him in EOL in the first place, but as he was already in and seemed to be acting nicely I hadn't done anything yet about it, but after this(using cheats online and supplying others with it) I gave him 100 year ban. Some people talk about second chance, but he's already gotten a 300th chance..
Madness wrote:Just for comparison: Darmoed got 1 year ban for cheating 56 internal WRs and World Cup 4, Pab gets 1 year ban for one unintentional mistake.
It's not about the time(s) he made, so you can't really compare it like that. It's obvious the 5.xx time in steppes is not real ofcourse, so that's not a big deal no. It is about using cheats online and to some degree ruining the integrity of elma and especially EOL. Having curiosity is natural so I understand that people will try to use the different cheat tools if they get the chance, but as he said in #battle chat he didn't think he was using the cheated exe when the time in steppes was made. If you want to try cheat tools for fun you should be REALLY clear about what you're so there's absolutely no chance of making mistakes like that, so having it accidentally turned on and using it online at all shows no respect and a carelessness for elma and the community. THAT is what really is the crime here.
(for other that is using cheat tools for fun, I suggest that you make a new elma folder for that and remove your nick, pass, ip and check play offline in eolconf so there's no chance of making mistakes)
analcactus wrote:lol, it's so fucking unpro!
Noobness is everywhere! Once AKB started his MEGAPRO bullets he's been banned, once i tried to change my nick, kopaka started to resist my requests, once sl has been shared, wrs would've been ridden online, once pab makes nice wr online, he's banned WHY?! Whut's wrong? What's nat legit? You suppose to change elma rules each time ANYTHING happens? Yesterday, lightning killed two people in St.Petersburg, we HAVE to change rules cuz of that
I never directly resisted your nickchange, you didn't understand that you can change it without my help. We're not changing the rules, since day 1 of EOL rule 1.1 has been do not cheat. Ofcourse we can always discuss what defines cheating, but in rules it says nothing about "do not cheat in battles" or things like that, it's simply "do not cheat" and it should be pretty clear that invulnerability is a cheat.
So where to go from here? It's a diffucult case and hard to define the penalty, some says permanent ban and others say a warning. I will collect the different proofs and upload in eol mods channel and see what everyone thinks. The time will be removed ofcourse, along with some bug times we have, but it isn't as easy as just deleting a row in the db. I will try to find the best way to do it soon hopefully. Things like these can take a lot of time sometimes in elma scene, that's unfortunate ofcourse, especially for a guy like Pab that is unsure of his future in EOL, but there's not really anything to do about it. About other cases that people have mentioned, I haven't been aware of only heard loose rumours.
Let's end the post with this, I hope it's okay I quote it from eol mods channel
(zamppe) it's quite interesting that people that have played the game for several years do everything in their capability to destroy it. Does the addiction drive people mad or what?