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Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Abula » 16 May 2020, 11:34

I've got a huge collection of old state.dat's (over 1000) and most of them are before 2007. Now and then some old players ask for them (edit: "their own ones") and I can only fulfil the requests when I'm "available" in Elma life.

Now I wonder if I could publish them all? Does someone see any problems with this? The collection is a nice piece of history and good for people who need their states. It would also remove the delay of my inactivity which can be sometimes too long.
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Post by Labs » 16 May 2020, 12:24

I would like if it's uploaded, that would make much ezer to upload missing players to elmastats at least.
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Tm » 16 May 2020, 13:38

pls do, towards very objective int standings it would be mega

on the same note, maybe poss to fulfill this: "By submitting replay files you agree that the files may be published later in the future, although not sooner than five (5) years after submitting the files."
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by ArZeNiK » 16 May 2020, 13:58

yes please, sounds amazing
we can up them all to elmastats as well!
edit: oh ok everyone else has said that so far as well lol
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by pawq » 16 May 2020, 14:04

It's amazing that you have them! But rather than publishing the states, I think they should instead be simply batch-uploaded to both elmastats and the elmaonline database. Kopaka and Markku have actually been actively working on importing legacy times and displaying them on elma.online (from skintatious in Markku's case), and we've been talking about internals too, so this would be the perfect opportunity! And I'm sure jon would be keen to help import them into elmastats :)

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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Abula » 16 May 2020, 14:18

Ok, sounds very good, I'll upload them now, it's a rainy day
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Post by Abula » 16 May 2020, 14:26

The oldest (not timestamp cheated): Nikke.dat 2000-03-05. Elbono has 31.12.1987. Other legends from 2000: Mikko, StIkKy, Mandel, kuiva, zeth, Champi0N, KingKong (aka BoBBo). 2001: Dr_Luni, Ufo, mengerle, EML (aka mrDJ), YeeS. 2002: swos, NJU etc. This is fascinating indeed
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by ArZeNiK » 16 May 2020, 14:27

elbono psychic legend, playing elma 13 years before it came out
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Post by Abula » 16 May 2020, 14:28

Found even older ones: Tier, Rob, Joni, Fulgore, Petri, mr, Ramone, onlainar, zyntifox
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by ArZeNiK » 16 May 2020, 14:30

so where this gonna get upped? or directly send to site creator people for mass-upload to elma.online and elmastats with some technique?
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by ArZeNiK » 16 May 2020, 15:58

due to jon's current inability to help, all stats with nicks of identifiable people will be manually uploaded to elmastats over the course of the following day. stay tuned!
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Schumi » 16 May 2020, 18:02

Nice, thx! It is a good chance eventually for everyone who lost their stats in the past years and unable to get them back
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Labs » 17 May 2020, 00:45

Abula wrote:
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I've got a huge collection of old state.dat's (over 1000) and most of them are before 2007.
Is there a way to get more fresh ones from px?
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by ArZeNiK » 17 May 2020, 01:27

I've gone from A to Z and added most users that I could. Still have a few duplicates/unknown nick remaining, which I will try to sort out tomorrow.
Also magicman's state broke elmastats a bit, but hopefully jon will fix that soon.
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Abula » 17 May 2020, 09:19

Labs wrote:
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Abula wrote:
16 May 2020, 11:34
I've got a huge collection of old state.dat's (over 1000) and most of them are before 2007.
Is there a way to get more fresh ones from px?
Maybe but it would be more work because he doesn't have a collection but only the emails so lots of manual work. What were the benefits?
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Labs » 17 May 2020, 11:04

Benefit, as we could update elmastats (stats.sshoyer.net) with em. Arzenik uploaded all guys, but for many of them this is old state, with px ones some of them could be updated to more fresh times.
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Abula » 17 May 2020, 21:32

Can we limit the dataset somehow? Like some spefic players or last 5 years or something? It's a lot to ask to send them all because the state.dats are in emails and zips but maybe it's worth it?
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Labs » 17 May 2020, 21:45

Abula wrote:
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Can we limit the dataset somehow? Like some spefic players or last 5 years or something? It's a lot to ask to send them all because the state.dats are in emails and zips but maybe it's worth it?
Hm, i think the mostly missing data is from 2010-2018.
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Grace » 18 May 2020, 05:02

The totaltimes updating on moposite since 2010 has been so haphazard/strange (partially with the eol link) that it's unrealistic to expect that px's records are in any way accurate.

That said, I'm really pleased to see the progress in this mini-project. It's nice having a more complete picture of the current state of times since day 1.
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Bludek » 18 May 2020, 14:02

ty for uploading all stats to elmastats, had great time comparing times made by old pros
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Re: Publishing old state.dat's

Post by Abula » 29 May 2020, 11:47

Btw, if possible, fix the timestamps of those old players to the date of state.dat last modified time? It would improve statistics greatly
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