This is a horrible argument.Labs wrote: ↑8 Dec 2020, 20:09 (...)
I dont care what is your trust about my times, its not about that. I say that if pops (which are bugs of physics) are normal to people to use it on their advantage, then these scripts also normal. People using low fps to get better time on small höyl levs, people using pops to get better time, people using buggy bnc's to get better time on levs, people using vsync bugs to get better times on levs, people changing fps with different methods while playing a lev, to get better times. These are all normal for people to get advantage over others, but timing a brake is not, dont you see it ironical (and the most hard against the brake timing is danitah, who uses the most pop bugs on his advantage, interesting...)? Anyway, the int12 code is there to show, how long it is possible to go with script, which is not 5 secs as you think. All of these things makes the wr table a joke.
A parallel: changing FPS/VSync is like using a different golf club, a script playing out 2.5s of a level for you is like having somebody hit your drive for you.
pawq (I think) has pointed out it's highly surprising you don't see it this way, and I do have to wonder if you're purposefully missing the point to prove another point? If so, what is it exactly? Because you just seem extremely out of touch with that society, in general, sees as cheating.
Most of what you've said is reasonable as far as I can tell, but this is a not a solid argument. Bug bounces can be achieved by legitimate finger movements on the keyboard and they are not legitimate gameplay.
This leads into the fact that some things are objectively cheating (SL or somebody else submitting recs under your name etc.) and some things are subjectively cheating (bug bounces) and are just ingrained in the community's common understanding of the rules.
The community made a choice (probably not democratically, but the powers that be chose) that wheel pops are legal, and there will of course be people who are against that to this day. Nobody is definitely wrong, it's a matter of opinion. It's a shame elma didn't have different categories for WR tables long ago, so this stuff wouldn't be as difficult for people.
Any% - anything goes except cheating
No Glitch% - no bug bounces or wheel pops or phasing thru walls etc.
TAS% - any cheating allowed