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I have made a preliminary document for the WR's. I'm not willing to update times, so for now anyone can fill theirs in. We will see how that works.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
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any reason not to merge the table with iOS records?
edit: and what about helmet times?
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yes you can't possibly play as good on ios as on pc... and also, the ios table is maintained by ASPIRINKA, and the elma 2 table by everyone


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The reason we don't merge it is I'm still not sure the physics and levels are completely the same in both versions.
If so, I'm surprised why nobody did quite easy and obvious shortcuts on B7 or D7 levels (I'm judging by the times in the table).
Is it possible at all, or levels are different now?
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ASPIRINKA wrote:The reason we don't merge it is I'm still not sure the physics and levels are completely the same in both versions.
If so, I'm surprised why nobody did quite easy and obvious shortcuts on B7 or D7 levels (I'm judging by the times in the table).
Is it possible at all, or levels are different now?
Balazs said himself that the windows version is just the iOS game with keyboard input and the editor so I guess the levels are 100% the same.
On the other hand the physics might change in a future update so I don't know what will happen then to all times. Maybe invalidate all times if, e.g. the acceleration of the bike is decreased to the original elma acceleration.
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ASPIRINKA, it's because very new so far and few har orkaed playing yet, I played but not seriously yet, I think that like was it B4 or something bounce over ther zigzag poly was very impressive on phone!
very sick was imo, tried a few mins on elma2 windows, but didn't do it /drunk hosp
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Hosp, it was A5 level.

Yes, it has quite hard bounce. Ribot was the first person who did it, then Xiphias did it from closer acceleration point with better landing and with 13 seconds drop. And I just basically repeated his style with further improvement :)
Still hoyling it trying to make 38.xx :D
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i hev wr, but game crashed cuz i first edited table then wanted to save so no rec
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alovolt is pos on pc version whereas on ios it's very hard... that enough is good reason to have separate lists... then pc version will ez beat all ios wrs, just wait and see

you simply cannot have the precision and speed of touching keys of a keyboard using your fingers on a touchscreen with non-physical buttons in weird positions.

another point is that it took weeks if not months to get current wrs on ios, and i almost beated on wr on keyboard after finishing lev less than 10 times.... still didn't beat it though, but it took at least a couple of hours of playing before reaching that precision on keyboard... so when someone good becomes good on keyboard, then you'll see
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ASPIRINKA wrote:Hosp, it was A5 level.

Yes, it has quite hard bounce. Ribot was the first person who did it, then Xiphias did it from closer acceleration point with better landing and with 13 seconds drop. And I just basically repeated his style with further improvement :)
Still hoyling it trying to make 38.xx :D
i played only this lev so much for that bnc, that i got sick of game, forgot all other styles and quited... well then i still have one wr which i did improve
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25.75 on a7 but wont fill in table cuz shit time
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need to make WR-list like in moposite or smth.
And with flag, team ...

Current is not pretty imo
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so cool I've seen so many impsy and sick recs, thank you guys
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Took me a while but finally managed to get good time on B1. Previous record was 51.35 by Ribot.
B1 - 40.72
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wanna see it
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Xiphias wrote: 7 Jan 2018, 16:48 Took me a while but finally managed to get good time on B1. Previous record was 51.35 by Ribot.
B1 - 40.72
Come on, guys!!!
It became sickest of the sickest of the sickest times now. And the funniest thing is we don't have any B1 rec available :)
I guess, there're about 5 different styles already exist, but none of them is public.
So, here's what I mean: rec or didn't happen :D
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ASPIRINKA wrote: 8 Jan 2018, 10:16
Xiphias wrote: 7 Jan 2018, 16:48 Took me a while but finally managed to get good time on B1. Previous record was 51.35 by Ribot.
B1 - 40.72
Come on, guys!!!
It became sickest of the sickest of the sickest times now. And the funniest thing is we don't have any B1 rec available :)
I guess, there're about 5 different styles already exist, but none of them is public.
So, here's what I mean: rec or didn't happen :D
Improved B1 to 39.70 which I'm more satisfied with! I will continue Ribot's tradition of not sharing the style in this level :P
But I can share C5 replay, since it is questionable if it is legit. There is a small tiny bitty bug bounce. I did several finishes with bug bounces but this is the least buggy one I finished with.
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I think, Ribot now can share his B1 replay, because it's not WR anymore, and I'm sure his style is very different from the WR style.
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We are closer and closer to the iOS total time, go on guys!
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Sick bounce Xiphias!
I wonder what a normal bounce in elma2 should look like because all bounces I have seen and done are very bug looking.
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less wrs in the last month than in elma1:)
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trying to bring life back into this game for some wtf reason so i beated 5 bonus helmet wrs yday. going for more ofc
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beated 8 more helmet WRs this week + 1 normal
helmet wrtt is now under 61 yay
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I've added charts for Elasto mania 2 to Cyberscore: https://cyberscore.me.uk/game/2868
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7 New Red Hat WRs updated on the sheet today, WR total time is down to 59:35.37 (-17.10)
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13 (!) new Red Hat WRs updated on the sheet today, WR total is down to 58:35.63 (-59.74). WR counts have absolutely flopped on their head in the last 2 weeks!

Special bonus mention to Flop also; who broke the D2 WR but time was beaten before a week had passed.

Flop has dethroned Arzenik to claim the throne of #1 ranked Elma II kuski! Congratulations

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Grace wrote: 3 Oct 2023, 08:14 Flop has dethroned Arzenik to claim the throne of #1 ranked Elma II kuski! Congratulations
That's a bold statement, I would argue that the ipod kuskis have the best Elma II times
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Maybe! It's impossible to really know; the only evidence that remains of red hat times in iOS era is a screenshot here or there. There's no videos, no replays, no total time listing etc! On the whole; Elma II and iOS WRs on red hats have been kept separate the entire time. If someone is able to get me access to the iOS WR listing sheet I *might* be able to recover some data from before it was all erased, but that's going to be really our best bet. I'd love to find this data though,

If you include iOS kuskis and Elma II kuskis in the same listing; with our current knowledge ribot is ranked #1, Flop comes in at #2. However, it's all a little academic because Flop is on pace to pass even ribot's total time probably before the next WR update. I'll make sure to update you if that happens!
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Oh, by #1 ranked you meant Red helmets. Well technically that's probably then true, I think most players who have played those drove them as first finish
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Yep! Also, that post is now (about 24 hours later) already moot; as Flop has now surpassed ribot's total time and holds the fastest recorded red hat total time in history on all platforms. Congrats to Flop for being the first person in history to earn 100% achievements for Elasto Mania II on Steam!

Just to be clear, the reason that I'm focusing on this stat is because the steam release of the game specifically hoists the red hat total time by matching the game's achievements to it; and completely ignores the non-hat total time for these achievements. The non-hat players have certainly accomplished amazing things in that category, but in Elma II steam release the focus shifts a little bit!

So perhaps the best way of handling this is to recognise absolutely everything:

Best Elasto Mania II non-hat TT: Xiphias, 29:37.45
Best Elasto Mania iOS non-hat TT: ASPIRINKA, 28:11.60
Best Elasto Mania II hat TT: Flop, 59:56.42
Best Elasto Mania iOS hat TT: ribot, 59:57.30

Best non-hat TT: ASPIRINKA, 28:11.60
Best hat TT: Flop, 59:56.42
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Here is a collection of all of my Elma 2 replays.

I don't know if they are compatible with Elma 2 on Steam, I don't have access to that one.
These replays were driven in Elasto Mania 2 version 1.01 (I believe), with SunL's center cam and alovolt fixes.

I remember I used to play it quite a bit on mobile as well, but the game no longer works so I have no idea if there are other replays/styles that I did not redo on a computer.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Elma II Red-helmet WR list updated today, 6 new WRs, -00:23.81 on TT for a new WR TT of 58:11.84 and a new 1st place TT champion + second person to break the 60 minute TT barrier.
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Update today: 1 new Elasto Mania II bonus-helmet WR in A1 :beer:
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