Who Do You Think Is The Best Designer Of All Time And Now?

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 2 Jul 2003, 12:21

Yeah the title says all who you think is?

2fast · Post by **2fast** » 2 Jul 2003, 12:34

I think BarTek,Ville J,skint0r and some other guys I can`t remember and ofcourse the winner of this years LOM.

psy · Post by **psy** » 2 Jul 2003, 12:39

It's Blake. Maybe his levs dont look so cool today but he was a pioneer inventing many of todays basic tricks.

John · Post by **John** » 2 Jul 2003, 14:33

Before when I played externals pretty much I liked Ville's levs...

Flyrre · Post by **Flyrre** » 2 Jul 2003, 15:32

I think Riz and Rob are the best designers! I like the style of their levels

Fuida · Post by **Fuida** » 2 Jul 2003, 16:40

Olliz and Bartek.

*edit
Nemo is cool too!

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 2 Jul 2003, 17:03

Olliz, skint0r, psy, BarTek, MP, whoever made most of the internals (yeah, I'm serious)... I can't decide.

bob · Post by **bob** » 2 Jul 2003, 17:27

riz and skints
blakes are good too
..scorn aswell (across)

MP · Post by MP » 2 Jul 2003, 17:36

I never liked blake levs back then when I played across, dunno what tricks he invented then

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 2 Jul 2003, 19:29

olliz, vj, bartek, nemo

onlainari · Post by **onlainari** » 2 Jul 2003, 20:56

omg cant answer to this thread even i wanted. VJ32, yes-couple nice levs like the water LOM thing etc, and others yes,I don't know who is best. skint0r will soon come up with 36 or so new great levels, at least the level number 04 looked good as we get to play it in VIP battle with devin and couple other guys :)

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 2 Jul 2003, 22:14

Undiente, Crosser

John · Post by **John** » 3 Jul 2003, 00:18

Didnt think of that when I made last post but the best leveldesigner is
Csaba Rozsa who made more then half of the internals...

Mick · Post by **Mick** » 3 Jul 2003, 04:07

i dont think i can accurately answer this question since i really didn't play all that many of the old acrossers levels. but for elma, i must admit i like skint's levels the best. psy also has some skill.

/mick

Juish · Post by **Juish** » 3 Jul 2003, 04:22

olliz, ville J, bartek

bonobo made the sickest0r lev for music theme, no doubt it shouldve won

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MP · Post by MP » 3 Jul 2003, 08:05

onlainari wrote:omg cant answer to this thread even i wanted. VJ32, yes-couple nice levs like the water LOM thing etc, and others yes,I don't know who is best. skint0r will soon come up with 36 or so new great levels, at least the level number 04 looked good as we get to play it in VIP battle with devin and couple other guys

VJ32? Do you mean the guy who have made lots of remix levs of others like adding fast speed gravi apples and distracting pictures? Played some of "his" levs in empacks long time ago.
...hmm didn't see any water lev in water theme he has made

damn no one likes my levs, well good that I don't do them anymore *sob sob*

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 3 Jul 2003, 08:28

Olliz, Zebra, BarTek, Juble, Bonobo, Ramone, MP.

MP · Post by MP » 3 Jul 2003, 08:53

Across: no idea, I didn't know much about the levmakers back then and unlike elma there weren't written "by xxx" in the end of many levs. Played some psys across levs later and those would have been really nice back then.

Elma: Olliz was the first who made typical "cruising" style levs = fast speed, lots of detail and lots of cool stuff that happens are almost half-automatic so you don't need to be a very good player to finish. Fuidas levs was little bit same and now Ville_J has taken the crown. I like Ville's levs the most but Olliz made the standard
Bartek and ramone have done both many levs with internal look. Bart also has the advantage of making those damn figures which I can't do at all

. I personally don't like the internal style that much but still I've played ramones contests more than many others heh

hmm come to think of it bart is the only good designer who haven't got an own levpage (psy kinda too because his site is offline)

skint0r · Post by **skint0r** » 3 Jul 2003, 10:13

psy was easily the best across designer.

Olliz, Fuida, Ville_J are all good levelmakers but i don't really like to play that level style. BarTek also very good but like MP said, too much like internals. I luvs yuos levs MP ;*, ALP is definitely the best pack out now.

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 3 Jul 2003, 10:32

Top5 in my opinion.....

1.Psy 2.Xhomas 3.Skint 4.Timmo 5.BarTek...............1000. Juble

coming after ez mopocorner crew

Harald Hasch · Post by **Harald Hasch** » 3 Jul 2003, 10:43

VilleJ, MP, Xhomas, Loca, bob and stink0r

CoAL....

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » 3 Jul 2003, 12:09

Juble wrote:Top5 in my opinion.....

1.Psy 2.Xhomas 3.Skint 4.Timmo 5.BarTek...............1000. Juble

...1001. Epsilon

ok ok, to topic... skint0r and bartek are the best in my opinion

MP · Post by MP » 3 Jul 2003, 12:18

aaw skint ;* ..I'm eager to see how nice levs your new levpack will include

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 3 Jul 2003, 12:35

oh yea xhomas!
ville j
olliz
yea timmo!
i think it depends on what style you like...
if you like internals, bartek is quite cool
vj and olliz for cruising...
ermmm... xhomas for great levs that take a time to complete....

Post by **SveinR** » 3 Jul 2003, 15:54

Well I don't feel I can make an accurate decision as to who is the best designer ever, as I wasn't around during the across days. I hardly know anything about Blake's levs, so...

Anyway, of what I know:

psy, skint0r, Xhomaz, BarTek and MP. I really liked Olliz's levs back in the day, but now I mostly think they're too messy (meaning: Way too many pics, I'm not a big pic fan) and too speedloopy.

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 3 Jul 2003, 16:19

MopoGirl wrote:olliz, vj, bartek, nemo

forgot zebra

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 3 Jul 2003, 16:29

MopoGirl wrote:forgot zebra

Yeah, Zebra's are great. The way he makes many different versions of the same level is a very nice idea.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 3 Jul 2003, 20:41

I like these designers for those styles they have:

1)BarTek: great use of editor, for example the mask-using. He makes his levels a good visual beauty.
2)MP: fantastic tricks he has in his levels. also great designs.
3)Olliz: good difficulty in his levels, and excellent use of pics.
4)Skint0r:Good internal style, but then his levels are better for hÃ¶yling
5)Juble, VilleJ, Zebra, just like Olliz i think.
6)psy, Blake, great across levels, blake invented a lot new style for driving levels. (think of Claustrophobia, Recklessdrivin', and of course Locked wheels.)

Olliz · Post by **Olliz** » 4 Jul 2003, 02:32

not in any order:
bartek
VJ
Fuida
Zebra
psy
Riz

i cant do all those fancy analysis but those levels i like

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 4 Jul 2003, 11:40

BarTek wrote:forgot about ramone?

edit: xhomas too heh

Oh shit. I'm gonna stop naming people, you always forget someone.

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 4 Jul 2003, 11:43

Flat Tracker wrote:5)Juble, VilleJ, Zebra, just like Olliz i think.

What the hell i dont have an olliz style.
I have my own style- Weird Style or Juble Style.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 4 Jul 2003, 11:51

okay:

7)Juble,...just a Juble or Wierd0r Style.

Olliz · Post by **Olliz** » 4 Jul 2003, 12:10

SveinR wrote:I really liked Olliz's levs back in the day, but now I mostly think they're too messy (meaning: Way too many pics, I'm not a big pic fan) and too speedloopy.

back in the day I used way too much pics, half of the time you cant see your wheels. Have been trying to reduce the usage abit

I think Bartek places his pics the best, internalish, doesnt affect the drivin but still looks kool..

chux · Post by **chux** » 4 Jul 2003, 13:02

Off topic:
Wheyyyyy Olliz is back!
On topic:
Olliz's levels are the best...

Post by **SveinR** » 4 Jul 2003, 14:38

Olliz wrote: back in the day I used way too much pics, half of the time you cant see your wheels. Have been trying to reduce the usage abit

Maybe I don't have your newer levs, anywhere to get them?

Flyrre · Post by **Flyrre** » 4 Jul 2003, 22:57

Juble wrote:
Flat Tracker wrote:5)Juble, VilleJ, Zebra, just like Olliz i think.

What the hell i dont have an olliz style.
I have my own style- Weird Style or Juble Style.

You mean your own m0ng0 style, you m0ng0

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 5 Jul 2003, 00:23

wierd or m0ng0, what's the difference?

no, really, Juble, you make fun levels.
But still they remind me of Olliz...with less pics

MP · Post by MP » 5 Jul 2003, 02:06

some of jubles levs reminds me of zebras ones

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 5 Jul 2003, 11:40

Whoops i forgot someone Kurak , one of the best designers ive seen.

Who's style shall i have this week

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 5 Jul 2003, 22:08

simple and easy :

Skint0r and Bartek

edit: and ismo and MP for sure

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 5 Jul 2003, 22:09

droo.
Omg you all forgot about him didn't you?

xp · Post by xp » 5 Jul 2003, 23:17

BarTek and Olliz...
I like ChrisP's micro levels but everybody can make them

Juish · Post by **Juish** » 6 Jul 2003, 07:17

come to think of it, im not the best of all time , and im not trying to brag, but every once and a while i actually make a good lev or two.

Undiente · Post by **Undiente** » 15 Jul 2003, 21:22

zworqy wrote:Undiente, Crosser

O_O WHA!!

a lot of thanks
mmmh, I think the old levs of ville are perfect, the ultims he made are a bit boring x_o i also like olliz levs, but he doesn't make a lot of levs in the last time (yes yeees I take a look Ground Zero)...and insane guy have a cool style n_n all three de best

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 18 Jul 2003, 19:52

Zebra levs yum

the PP's lev's is also quite nice

Juzam · Post by **Juzam** » 1 Sep 2004, 09:47

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 1 Sep 2004, 12:12

BarTek, MP and skint0r.

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 1 Sep 2004, 12:18

MP, Ville_J and Lukazz

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 1 Sep 2004, 12:33

1.BarTek
2.skint0r
3.Xhomaz
4.zebra
5.juble
6.MP
7.Ville_J
8.ramone
9.Riz
10.Hemman
etc.
...1002. 8-ball

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 1 Sep 2004, 12:43

BarTeK i'd love to see this new kind of level

my favourite levmaker is Olliz, but i'm not a great judge as i have never played skinternals, chain levels or anything