If you had saveload

Post by **Abula** » 1 Nov 2004, 18:26

A question for WR drivers:

What times you could do with saveload patch? Tell level and time and be honest or don't reply at all.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 1 Nov 2004, 19:08

i have saveloads but if i use it i would be surely able to drive
turna 36.1x
curva 29.0x

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 1 Nov 2004, 19:14

plz upload saveload

AtmaWeapon · Post by **AtmaWeapon** » 1 Nov 2004, 19:17

Noo! It's cheating!

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 1 Nov 2004, 19:19

this is only 'what if' topic
noone will upload anything i guess

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 1 Nov 2004, 20:42

Downhill 45.5x
Bowling 53.5x

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 1 Nov 2004, 21:21

I don't remember all timez or name of guy but some russian kuski used saveload and had some recs on list before

Maybe some of his timez could be written here.

Abula, u could make a #target times list for those times we get and have had! Would be nice to see.
More realistic then your predictions imo

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 1 Nov 2004, 22:25

Turn to Kopaka's site ... you know, the one for cheat WR ( maybe it's not Kapa... anyway, the cheat WR site ! )

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 2 Nov 2004, 00:00

sierria has link to darm's cheated times in sig.
a good (i.e great) elma player sharing cheated saveload recs that are way better than WR times could (would) help to improve WR times and get a more accurate wrtt prediction; BUT I'm against it. And I really don't think I have to explain why.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 Nov 2004, 00:12

best players (tor, zweq, luther, cloud) probably have all darm's recs

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 2 Nov 2004, 00:24

well i'm against more recs being created through a patch that is accessible to everyone. i suppose it's alright if say you (mila) used saveload to make a turna replay to copy from, as long as..., damn this will take forever explaining.

i don't really know where i stand, because looking at it, it makes it unfair for players that aren't using saveload to help them. so i concluded that noone should have saveload. but that way better-than-darm's recs won't get created. so therefore the only saveload recs that can be used to help are darm's. even so, saveload should be banned for everyone. but what about the helping out? do we need another darm? do we want another darm?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 Nov 2004, 01:08

you didnt understand
darm was together with zweq in one team (and with tor and cloud before)
they had darm's rec without knowing they're cheated
they don't have saveload (i think, or atleast not darm's

)
members of anticheat group have saveloads to create some detection tools

Post by **Abula** » 2 Nov 2004, 01:12

I created this topic because I wanted to hear people's realistic opinions of possible times in theory. Sum those and pof we got 35mins TT, at least with help of new styles.

John · Post by **John** » 2 Nov 2004, 01:59

43.low HB

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 2 Nov 2004, 04:14

i'm not a wr holder but i know for 99% sure that Ramp Frenzy would be ez 51,xx

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 2 Nov 2004, 09:09

2:13-2:15 lab pro
57:50 zig zag
51 serpents tale
1:24-1:25 new wave
1:25-1:29 apple h, hard to predict
well anyway, ez 35 tt

KD · Post by KD » 4 Nov 2004, 15:26

39:8x on haircut, maybe 17:17-8 on hooked

dz · Post by dz » 5 Nov 2004, 06:51

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 5 Nov 2004, 08:40

dz, kidding? i mean with saveload: F5 saves ,F9 loads, very ez 36 tt, like bonobo said, hoyl every corner like warm up

dz · Post by dz » 5 Nov 2004, 11:35

well, actually, yeah. you're pretty much correct. 37 EZ at least

Rez · Post by **Rez** » 5 Nov 2004, 12:42

omg why have so much people saveload? it sounds like you can get it everywhere...

John · Post by **John** » 5 Nov 2004, 12:44

none of us have it (I hope/think) but we're just speculating of what times we could do IF we had saveload...

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 5 Nov 2004, 13:07

38.xx frame ^_^

dz · Post by dz » 5 Nov 2004, 13:14

Rez wrote:omg why have so much people saveload? it sounds like you can get it everywhere...

We don't saveload, we are only talking about it. Maybe read Abula's first post?

KD · Post by KD » 5 Nov 2004, 18:53

Ye, right, we don't assume using saveload

Rez · Post by **Rez** » 5 Nov 2004, 19:46

Ok my first post was stupid but this is the most stupid EVER: How does saveload work?

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 5 Nov 2004, 20:46

you do some 15 sec on a level perfect then u save and you can start with that perfect run everytime.

kinghias · Post by **kinghias** » 5 Nov 2004, 21:45

hmm, ain't that obvious?

back to topic: i think some 24:7x at hang tight might be possible

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 6 Nov 2004, 10:15

my personal opinion: even though DMD cheated, and got what he deserved for pretending that they were legit replays, i think he has helped most of us in one way or another. he showed us that theoretically at least, crazy, seemingly impossible times were actually possible. and he actually helped us all to become better; i am at least one person who found his replays inspiring, to say none-the-least. **thinks out loud** it wil be interesting to see how many flames i get for this post...

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 17 Nov 2004, 02:19

Count one flame for me

nah jk but really if DMD would w/out save/load be a 42-43 mins TT than think of the possibilities for someone driving 37-40 mins TT using save/load...

it would probly cut about 2% of the time out of each level...of course there would be exceptions like warm up but on average of 1.8% per level.

1.8% of 37 mins TT is about 39.96 seconds..so like .74 seconds improvement per level if my math is correct.

Think about it.

Nicolas · Post by **Nicolas** » 17 Nov 2004, 14:23

Dynamo wrote: nah jk but really if DMD would w/out save/load be a 42-43 mins TT than think of the possibilities for someone driving 37-40 mins TT using save/load...

Since he started cheat and before he got 37.xx tt passed ~2 years, and during this time his skill might to increase, therefore difference isn't so big

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 17 Nov 2004, 14:48

darm has a 39 min tt now

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 17 Nov 2004, 18:06

Well it would still be big w/ save/load

Nicolas · Post by **Nicolas** » 17 Nov 2004, 22:06

But he played little after his disclosing

Behk · Post by **Behk** » 17 Nov 2004, 22:27

Who made save/load?
I whane know

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 17 Nov 2004, 22:42

many various programmers

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