Misuse of the word 'professional'

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 15 Oct 2002, 16:17

Could everyone stop using phrases like, 'professional elma player,' or 'professional level maker' as this is wrong. The word professional suggests that it is your profession and you get paid for it. I'll leave you all to argue about that.

dz · Post by dz » 15 Oct 2002, 16:31

i guess i have to belive ya since youre true englismannen.. it kinda makes sense anyway.. hmm.. what about "pro" or is it just shortened from professional? how you call a person who is really good then?

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 15 Oct 2002, 16:33

Yes pro is shortened of professional. The correct word would be 'expert' i suppose.

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 15 Oct 2002, 17:33

is laby pro getting paid for being professional?!?!!?1??! LOLZ! I IS TEH LOL!

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 15 Oct 2002, 18:04

Karlis wrote:I IS TEH LOL!

What?

And also Balazs got it wrong with lab pro.
I can think of loads of levels with pro in the name.

Maybe people will stop doing that after they read this topic.

Post by **Abula** » 15 Oct 2002, 18:12

Chris Penrose wrote:Maybe people will stop doing that after they read this topic.

Or maybe we create new way to use the word, piece of culture ;]. Surprisingly it was me who said this? Anyway there is prettu much misuse in Elma scene and this one doesn't affect much harm. Anyway I will fix them to Moposite some lovely day.

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 15 Oct 2002, 18:48

youre a true englishman? im not sure about that....
hmmm.... but i also dont know if its true what youre saying....
maybe it has a double meaning (...??)
im too lazy to check... cu

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 15 Oct 2002, 19:20

Entry from the readers digest universal dictionary:

professional adj 1. Of, pertaining to, engaged in, or suitable for a profession. 2. Engaged in a specific activity as a source of livelihood. 3. Performed by persons recieving pay. 4. Having great skill or experience in a particular field of activity.
abbr. pro 1. A person following a profession. 2. One who earns his livelihood as a sportsman, either playing or coaching. 3. One who has an assured competance in a particular field or occupation.

Look at 3 and 4. I was right and wrong.

dz · Post by dz » 15 Oct 2002, 20:13

well is it really THAT bad you could think of your text ? i mean, if i say that on english lesson in england, it would be wrong

Mick · Post by **Mick** » 16 Oct 2002, 03:22

chris: stop trying to show off your english skills(or maybe lack there of) and accept that professional is a part of elma culture now. many people who speak english as their first language come here and to #across and try to correct the non english speakers. the thing is, they generally dont care if they spell shit wrong. same goes with if they use the wrang word. who cares?

anyways, when your talking with friend or something and your saying how good they are at something for example, they might say 'yep, im a pro". this doesn't at all mean that they get paid does it? its part of normal speach. you dont have to take things so literally.

/mick

btw: i speak english as my first language too, so i kinda know what im talking about.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 16 Oct 2002, 04:38

what does it matter anyway? just say the words u feel

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 16 Oct 2002, 08:15

Chris Penrose, I have also be woundering why they use the word pro.
And after reading this thread: http://moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=380 and this interview: http://213.237.35.1/acrossdk/stuff/DmDInterview.txt have I found out that they are NOT pro.....

So you're right they sould olny use thw word pro if they really are an proffesional kuski....

- Kopaka [cEp]

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 16 Oct 2002, 14:34

I am not trying to show off, and I don't think I'm brilliant at English. Although people say I am. I even admitted I was wrong:

I wrote:Look at 3 and 4. I was right and wrong.

The word 'expert' is more correct than 'pro', and I'm sorry, but no one can change that.

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 16 Oct 2002, 14:40

Actually I suppose one of the reasons people use the word 'professional' instead of 'expert' is because it's more powerful a word. Perhaps we could use, 'super expert' or something. Or even create a new word.

Laser · Post by **Laser** » 16 Oct 2002, 15:21

Chris Penrose wrote:Perhaps we could use, 'super expert' or something.

oh come on that sounds sooo lame. why is this so important to you Chris? why don't you use the word expert and everyone else will use the word they like.

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 16 Oct 2002, 15:26

I know it sounds lame. It was just an example. Why is everyone so angry at me? I'm just expressing my opinion.

Post by **SveinR** » 16 Oct 2002, 15:53

I don't see any more reason to discuss this, because, from your reader's digest dictionary, you showed that we did NOT use the word professional the wrong way:

Chris Penrose wrote: 4. Having great skill or experience in a particular field of activity.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 16 Oct 2002, 17:40

ye it's not wrong to say pro even according to pretentious scholars

chux · Post by **chux** » 16 Oct 2002, 19:18

I'm a 'real englishman' too!
And its true that pro/professional means someone who does something and gets paid for it.
Expert means someone who is very good at something, basically what we've worked out so far.
As for new words to describe 1337orz kuskis, sleskuski springs to mind for some reason...

XTC · Post by **XTC** » 17 Oct 2002, 00:33

On topic:

In the starcraft scene people use the word "gosu" when describing someone who is really good in SC, gosu means expert in korean so i guess thats correct, btw, im so epÃ¤korrekti kun ihminen voi vaan olla so i dont give a flying phukk anywAyZ, ok? i speak just as i like and if you dont like my shit, you can suck my dikk0r, ok? ok j/k.

Mick0r wrote: btw: i speak english as my first language too, so i kinda know what im talking about.

mick i love you, you are so gosu!

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 26 Oct 2002, 01:44

I AM THE PROFFESIONAL 'LAUTA WRITER!!!

yeah i agree with chris, noone here is a pro player (you're all bunch of amateurs hehe)..... pay me $ for playing, i'll play lame as usual but i will be a PRO, ok?!

GodFather · Post by **GodFather** » 26 Oct 2002, 12:00

Yo Chris... U said let's use other word instead. What word? G00d? Great? Awsome? Lil' gayish huh? I'd keep my mouht shut if I was U.... And yeah. Why is this so important to U anyway?? Just wondering..................

Post by **Abula** » 26 Oct 2002, 12:14

We need to get some sponsors that we can keep on using the word 'professional'.

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 26 Oct 2002, 16:03

we could use extraordinary, brilliant, genuine, sofisticated...

i'm a sofisticated elma player bwahahahahahahahhhhahaahaahhahhaaaaaaaaaahahhahhahaaahhhhahaahahhhahhhhahha

dz · Post by dz » 28 Oct 2002, 20:03

so if ya translate professional to finnish it would be "ammattilainen", and could any finn tell if the meaning is very same, someone who gets paid ?

Post by **Abula** » 28 Oct 2002, 20:12

dz wrote:so if ya translate professional to finnish it would be "ammattilainen", and could any finn tell if the meaning is very same, someone who gets paid ?

You can't solve this by translating to another language. "Ammattilainen" is a person who has an "ammatti" (occupation) and therefore he gets paid for it.

My dictionary offers also the words like "pÃ¤tevÃ¤", "asiantunteva" and "osaava" to the word "professional" which mean "competent", "able", "capable" and "expert". Due to these facts we notice "professional" meaning also "expert".

chux · Post by **chux** » 28 Oct 2002, 23:55

If you guys can come up with words like 'kuski' 'hoyla' (are these made up, or do they actually mean stuff?) etc. then surely you can make up a word meaning 'over bwad kuski'

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 29 Oct 2002, 07:23

abula how about profession-professional?

chuckles hÃ¶ylÃ¤ comes from cheese slicer - to slice off thin slices of cheese (tenths of seconds for example) until u barely can make any more slices.

then back to topic. i wouldnt call el ma a profession yet, but professional is commonly used to describe ppl that are very good at something. like if u play some game with friends, and you have practiced that game on your free time, doing official competitions, then it's quite usual they call u professional. at least in swedish language it's commonly spread (actually the word profession doesn't exist). the point is that pro is a convenient word, and also a way to give credit to the players u admire. if u don't think the word means this, then u can call it slang. like the verb screw for example, it suggests you do something with a screw, how come then ppl say this about ppl fucking when it's wrong?!!

dz · Post by dz » 29 Oct 2002, 11:26

kuski is finnish = driver
hÃ¶ylÃ¤ is finnish = as verb means mainly a movement u do quickly all over again and again. it IS also a substantive, meaning many things actually, like cheesehÃ¶ylÃ¤ (juustohÃ¶ylÃ¤)

Post by **SveinR** » 29 Oct 2002, 16:36

Why are we still arguing this? Chris proved himself wrong..

I have a feeling I've posted this before...

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 10 Mar 2009, 20:31

is laby pro getting paid for being professional?!?!!?1??! LOLZ! I IS TEH LOL!

karlis, you're such a humorous guy!

and svein, stop picking on chris.

John · Post by **John** » 10 Mar 2009, 21:33

is that u teajay? looking for long lost topics? ;o

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 10 Mar 2009, 22:06

Eh, no, why do you think that?!

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 10 Mar 2009, 22:26

I laughed at John's reply

Stop digging tj

Grace · Post by **Grace** » 12 Mar 2009, 10:21

teajay trying to become an archaeologist?

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 12 Mar 2009, 20:29

musicologist, but it involves digging through old stuff yes.

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