what kind of world cup levels do you want?

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 25 Apr 2005, 20:27

as there are so many world cup topics...

hello this is my furst bosdue!

this could be a poll, but it would be hard to include all kinds of levels that should and should not be in the cup. i dont know if px and abula cares about what the public thinks, but they might.

personally, i think all levels should vary. that way the best kuski will win, instead of the kuski who can endure 20 weeks of same kind of hÃ¶yling.

WORLD CUP 5 QUESTIONS
1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?
8. Do you want _one_ freestyle level? (coolest trick wins, not best time)
9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)
10. Do you want _one_ gravity level? (with lots of gravity, makes it harder to play)
11. Do you want a bowling level? (gotta make strike)
12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)
13. Do you want a IQ level? (hard to finish, gotta think out style)

edit: I got new questions. best to add them here, than everybody can edit their posts with new answers. that way it's easier to see.

14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
X.anyone can of course add questions, just continue after the number

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 25 Apr 2005, 20:49

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. no
6. no
7. no
8. yes
9. no
10. yes
11. no
12. yes
13. yes

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 25 Apr 2005, 21:21

1. yes
2. yes
3. no
4. yes (!)
5. yes
6. no
7. no
8. no
9. no
10. yes
11. no
12. yes
13. yes
14. yes
15. yes, one

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 25 Apr 2005, 22:07

WORLD CUP 5 ANSWERS

1. I hate hoyling levels, no.
2. I love long levels, yes.
3. I definitly want a long and hard pipe ... level !
4. I don't really like headbanger kinda levels but, it might be fun ...
5. Only speedloop acceptable is like LosCup2 Level 1 !
6. Only long jump level if the start has some multiple platforms to get speed from...
7. Same as the above question.
8. No freestyle levels, too hard to judge
9. Internal level would suck hard.
10. No gravity levels please.
11. hummm.... this... is... weird...
12. Could be fun if it ain't too similar to apple harvest.
13. I definitly would like an IQ level, always fun to see the winning replay and the level itself.

I really can't think of another type of level !

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 25 Apr 2005, 22:37

8. YES, would be great to get this started at final, i mean px or someone could deside teh 5 best replays and the winner is decided by a public vote, and you have to have like 100 post on lauta or something to be able to vote, or something like that.

Jalli · Post by **Jalli** » 25 Apr 2005, 22:54

8. PLEASE NOT!
Also pipe not that needed

The_BoneLESS · Post by **The_BoneLESS** » 25 Apr 2005, 23:20

Jalli wrote:8. PLEASE NOT!
Also pipe not that needed

Too much pressure ?

Jalli · Post by **Jalli** » 25 Apr 2005, 23:38

Well, even if I came second ppl would still be teasing me

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 26 Apr 2005, 08:02

Unique ones....duh

dunedan · Post by **dunedan** » 26 Apr 2005, 08:36

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. No
9. Yes
10. No
11. No
12. No
13. Yes
14. Yes
15. No

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 26 Apr 2005, 13:37

pipe, long jump and internal level, yes

high jump and freestyle, nah

ead · Post by **ead** » 26 Apr 2005, 15:00

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yesyes =)
5. no
6. yes
7. yes
8. yes even though id probably come in last ;D
9. i dont think an internal level in wcup would be fair since some kuskis play internals more than others or already have some sort of advantage, so no
10. no
11. yes
12. yes =)
13. hell yes!

14. no
15. i dunno =\

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 26 Apr 2005, 16:18

1. Nooo
2. yea
3. plz nat
4. yea
5. yea
6. nop
7. nop
8. not really
9. lolz no
10. yea.. if made good
11. nooo
12. don't think so
13. nop
14. I think it is, atleast I like it
15. sure, if they are good.

Post by **SveinR** » 26 Apr 2005, 18:15

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
Well, if it is a good level, sure, why not. Though this shouldn't be a very long event.

2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
Yeah that can be max

This one should last quite a while (plus, then we get teh r0xx0rz winning .rec

)

3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
Yes. Although.. Either it can be very hard to finish and last a while, or it can be a normal hard/medium pipe and be a 1-2 day event. I'd vouch for the last option.

4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
Headbanger rox

5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
I see to be best at those, so, yes

6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
This could be interesting. It should be made so it will differ a bit between kuskis.

7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?
Same as the previous.

8. Do you want _one_ freestyle level? (coolest trick wins, not best time)
Well, sure, it could be fun, but it would be very hard to judge and the judgement would be very subjective.

9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)
Not really, no

10. Do you want _one_ gravity level? (with lots of gravity, makes it harder to play)
Gravity can be a great feature if used correctly. A level that just has gravity for gimmicks might be harder to make good.

11. Do you want a bowling level? (gotta make strike)
Emm.. No. Too frustrating to not make it after having done some very hard styles before it, for example.

12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)
Yeah, this can be great. Also it is really valuable with teams in such a level.

13. Do you want a IQ level? (hard to finish, gotta think out style)
I don't really want it, but I guess it could be fun to see the outcome.

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14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
Could be. But the most important thing is that the level itself is good. A good look on the level of course helps very much though, and can make the playing (or, the first stages of the hoyling) more enjoyable.

15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
Of course. And what's a wcup without px levels anyway?

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 26 Apr 2005, 18:38

just realised a flaw with the internal level idea... if you're gonna use the actual internal level then anyone can cheat and just send in a moporec, or at least their personal best rec that they might have spent year hoyling

but, if you're going to turn it into an external (via QWQUUxxx.lev or some other means) then maybe the best time would not be allowed to become an official wr, since it wasn't driven in the real internal. so the purpose of having it is rather defeated

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 26 Apr 2005, 19:29

the idea about internals is that it could improve internal wr a lot. i would very much like to see such a competition, but if i run one wouldnt mean anyone would play it.

and this is still a world cup, and since internals are called world records, they are related, arent they? i mean being an internalist maybe should be somewhat advantageous in world cup, right?

and also, maybe not much ppl have really hÃ¶yled one level as much as a world cup level? as it seems, it's hard to win wcup event than to beat a wr. maybe im wrong?

no one could send in mopo styles, because they can check it. players can however can copy those styles, and get better times. probably the times would be better in the top 50 anyway.

also, there could be new revolutionizing styles..

otherwise it could be a cup of its own..but who would care to play it? who doesnt want to see super new 10 internal wrs on same level in one week?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 26 Apr 2005, 22:31

believe me, there would probably be no new wr at that lev

Post by **Abula** » 27 Apr 2005, 11:52

WORLD CUP 5 QUESTIONS

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
Yes, why not. Actually no matter for me.

2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
Yes, definately.

3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
Not that I like them but it's a tradition.

4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
Yes, my favourite levels. Many styles? Hm, at least one route.

5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
Absolutely no.

6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
Don't think one can make a good level for this.

7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?
No. Same as above.

8. Do you want _one_ freestyle level? (coolest trick wins, not best time)
Yes and no. I like the contest type very much but how to judge the replays? px doesn't have the best view ;P. Like bounces not allowed etc.

9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)
NO! Too much advantage for some people. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't improve the internal level's world record. Only the internal hoylas would hoyl it and they wouldn't invent anything new.

10. Do you want _one_ gravity level? (with lots of gravity, makes it harder to play)
Don't overgo with gravity.

11. Do you want a bowling level? (gotta make strike)
Heeh.. no matter.

12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)
I dislike them so no.

13. Do you want a IQ level? (hard to finish, gotta think out style)
Hm, well no matter. Not my favourite type anyway.

14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
Not for the best players. Yes for the noobs (and quite a big amount of the players are noobs).

15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
One, long rollercoaster, just for the tradition again.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » 27 Apr 2005, 12:08

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
No, but maybe under 35 seconds.

2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
Yes, I want long levels. The recs would be quite nice, I guess.

3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
Well, I'm no good in pipelevels, but one pipelev is ok for me. It's a tradition.

4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
Yes, headbangers are fun. Dunno if it should be like a pipe-shortcut, though. A long, one-route level would be nice.

5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
If well made, it could be an interseting level, but I say, no.

6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
No, same reason as Abula.

7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?
As above.

8. Do you want _one_ freestyle level? (coolest trick wins, not best time)
No. That's not what Elma is about

Don't think it would be a fair contest.

9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)
No, absolutely not.

10. Do you want _one_ gravity level? (with lots of gravity, makes it harder to play)
Yeah, if well done. Not too much.

11. Do you want a bowling level? (gotta make strike)
This could be interesting. I say, Yes.

12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)
Hmm.. maybe. Can't decide. The rec could be nice, though. =)

13. Do you want a IQ level? (hard to finish, gotta think out style)
IQ-levels are so boring. But I want an "Expert level" kind of level.

14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
Yes, I think so. The layout is very improtant (at least for me).

15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
Yes, but not a rollercoaster level.

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 27 Apr 2005, 16:23

14. yes for me
15. a rollercoaster is a must

Chanoo · Post by **Chanoo** » 27 Apr 2005, 16:56

1. yes
2. no
3.yes
4. yes
5. no
6. no
7. yes
8. yes
9. no
10. no
11. nooooo!
12. no
13. yes
14. no
15. yes, 1

Post by **Abula** » 27 Apr 2005, 16:58

I guess px won't go through your replies checking the numbers and answers and compare them. Tip: include the questions to your reply.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 27 Apr 2005, 17:01

it's ok, i will just write the stats after some more ppl have answered

Jazka · Post by **Jazka** » 27 Apr 2005, 17:54

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
Yes

2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
Maybe one but no more

3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
Yes, I want to test my skills

4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
Of course, they are my favourites

5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
No

6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
No, if it's not very good

7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?
same as above

8. Do you want _one_ freestyle level? (coolest trick wins, not best time)
Maybe. It would have cool recs.

9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)
No

10. Do you want _one_ gravity level? (with lots of gravity, makes it harder to play)
No

11. Do you want a bowling level? (gotta make strike)
No

12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)
I don't like them, but the rec could be worth of watching, so maybe

13. Do you want a IQ level? (hard to finish, gotta think out style)
no

14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
It's better if the level has high graphics but it's not the most important thing in the level

15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
Why not

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 27 Apr 2005, 20:14

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
Yes, 15 seconds would be even better but just _one_

2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
no maybe 1 or 2 mins but not over 3

3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
yep one pipe but not tooooooooooooooo hard

4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
Yep headbanger lev would be cool but no things like hb pipe pls!!!

5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
NO!!!!

6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
NNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?
no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8. Do you want _one_ freestyle level? (coolest trick wins, not best time)
erm, yes and no

9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)
Yeah would be funny for zweq but how should i get points in a internal lev world cup event ^^

10. Do you want _one_ gravity level? (with lots of gravity, makes it harder to play)
YES!! good gravity levs are sooooo cool but pls no n00b gravy levs

11. Do you want a bowling level? (gotta make strike)
no

12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)
Yes why not but not to hard bounces in the pro styles pls

13. Do you want a IQ level? (hard to finish, gotta think out style)
yes not a lev where you have to drive too slow

14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
No good levs dont need pics an gras (btw i think most ppl use HighQ and there are no pics so it's useless)

15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
If he wants to make levs...

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 28 Apr 2005, 23:18

final answers:
had to interpret some answers here, if it's not a clear yes/no/maybe. also, many said "yes if it's a good level", which px knows it should be.

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
11 yes -- 3 no

2. Do you want _one_ long level, over three minutes?
10 yes -- 1 maybe -- 3 no

3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
11 yes -- 3 no

4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
14 yes !!!

5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
6 yes -- 8 no

finish later.

Jazka · Post by **Jazka** » 17 May 2005, 20:56

What do you think about lev where you have to die in some wall as soon as possible, and every apple you take would add something like 0,20s or 0,50s in your time? There should be faster ways (where are more apples) and little slower ways (where wouldn't be any apples) so you should think which way is actually the fastest. The point is that you should be able to pass some apples in faster ways also... I can't do such a level myself but if someone has time to do a good level like that it would be quite interesting to see in wcup...

twipley · Post by **twipley** » 17 May 2005, 22:46

could be nice, but perhaps hard and annoying to count apples each time...

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 18 May 2005, 08:16

twipley wrote:could be nice, but perhaps hard and annoying to count apples each time...

Hard to count apples everytime? lol there is replays you know.

And you could do this like the start is bugged so you dont need to take apples to finish the lev, and every apple you take is added to your finaly time, dunno how much.

magicman · Post by **magicman** » 20 May 2005, 18:27

I dont want theese:

1. Do you want _one_ hÃ¶yling level, under 20 seconds?
4. Do you want _one_ headbanger kind of level? (fast, many styles)
5. Do you want _one_ speedloops level? (lot of speed, few styles)
6. Do you want _one_ long jump level?
7. Do you want _one_ high jump level?

Want theese:

A level around 2minutes 1Â½week playtime atleast....
3. Do you want _one_ pipe level? (very hard to finish, count apples)
12. Do you want a apple harvest level (many many apples, many many styles)

Could be nice to see how good wcup really is :- P but would be pure hÃ¶yl
9. Do you want _one_ internal level? (just think of it, how much the WR time could be improved..would be so cool)

14. is it important to have high graphics? (grass, pictures)
Yes! Most important grass, and not to annoying pics

15. should px be allowed to have own levels? how many max? (had three in wcup4)
Sure... maybe max 3-4levs

Pertti · Post by **Pertti** » 20 May 2005, 18:59

I love levels from 20secs to 1 min with many styles. Just like inra levels are nowadays.

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