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Golden Apple Awards 2005

Post by SveinR »

So, the time has come again for this annual award show to be held; GAA05.

GAA04
GAA03
Original idea

Jury
The jury has been fully assembled, and consists of: Abula, cyre, J-sim, Karlis, SveinR and tijsjoris.

Categories
Some decisions still needed for this to be decided 100%, but expect an update in the not so far-away future.

Voting rules
Have pretty much been decided, instructions coming later.

Date
Sunday 15th January 2006, at 20:00 EET.

Prizes
Should be the same as last year, but will be hard to accomplish without Moposite funds raised by some donations (;))
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Post by Abula »

And BarTek, Jalli and milagros, don't be annoyed. We thought you are either too busy or inactive.
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i nominate myself for every category except 'best level designer'
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Post by sierra »

best rookie - Tm
best levmaker - MP
best externalist - Luther
best internalist - Tor

there, the GAA is over. grats
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best rookie - Tm
best levmaker - niN
best externalist - axxu
best internalist - t0r
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Abula wrote:And BarTek, Jalli and milagros, don't be annoyed. We thought you are either too busy or inactive.
don't worry, I didn't want to be in the jury anyway
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rookie - Tm
levs - Juble
internals - axxu
externals - axxu
battles - Rex
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Post by J-sim »

There will come a nomination round later.


If anyone has suggestions concerning categories, please share.
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my votes

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Best Rookie: Tm
Best lev designer: ZiP
Battles: Lukazz
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Re: my votes

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niN wrote:Best Rookie: Tm
Best lev designer: ZiP
Battles: Lukazz
i somehow feel like you didn't read what j-sim wrote

btw: i really like the idea of most friendly kuski
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best rookie - Tm
most slesk replay - axxu's Steep Corner-pipe
best externalist - axxu
best internalist - Toringe
best lvl maker - CMc
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Post by MP »

best site category, how's it gonna be? moposite again if it stays the same as before.

...and no friendly kuskis please
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Re: my votes

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Lukazz wrote:
niN wrote:Best Rookie: Tm
Best lev designer: ZiP
Battles: Lukazz
i somehow feel like you didn't read what j-sim wrote

btw: i really like the idea of most friendly kuski
Categories will be announced later, but this one you mention hasn't got a high priority.
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- Best level
- Best level designer
- Best contest
- Most original contest
- Best rookie
- Best externalist
- Best internalist
- Best overall player
- Best professionnal replay
- Best slesk replay
- Best new style
- Comeback of the year
- The veteran award
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Post by kinghias »

hmm, some more suggestions:

- best team
- best battler
- best pipe-driver
- best cup-player
- best levpack
- best internal/external wr
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Post by Lukazz »

but how should a lev pack get an award? that's somehow stupid...
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as stupid as if a single level gets one...
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Post by Lukazz »

well but a single has at least ONE designer (ok, except chain levs) but a lev pack has more designers often
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Post by Abula »

Don't post your nominees, we will give more instructions later.

Categories are already (almost) decided. LGR out, Contest in. Compared to last year.
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Post by Juble »

I think you shouldnt be able to win agian in the same categorie(s).

also I really think its time for the All-around player award.
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why don´t you name it for Markku award right away then?
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Juble wrote:I think you shouldnt be able to win agian in the same categorie(s).

also I really think its time for the All-around player award.
why not. if you are the best battler for instance.. you are! why give award to 2nd best? I don´t get it. If someone is the best at something for 5 years and wins all goldmedals.. he is the best... How the hell could someone come up and say: sorry.. you cant run/jump/play (etc) this year cause you won gold last year... and you will so obviously win so the excitment wont be there so: Sorry... have a great life!

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Moposite nominees should be cut out like World cup 5 for contest, Moposite for site, come on, how about donating the money to moposite straight away then o_O

elastomaniacs.com members shouldn't be allowed to vote :D
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8-ball wrote:elastomaniacs.com members shouldn't be allowed to vote :D
trye that
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8-ball wrote:elastomaniac.com members shouldn't be allowed to vote :D
Does that include elastomaniacs.com moderators? ;)
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SveinR wrote:Voting rules
Have pretty much been decided, instructions coming later.
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BarTek wrote:no its ok i have no time at all for this, im glad you put teejay to work; all his active talk finally came to good use.
For some reason this sounds nice.
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8-ball wrote:Moposite nominees should be cut out like World cup 5 for contest, Moposite for site, come on, how about donating the money to moposite straight away then o_O
1) The prizes are no money
2) We would lose much more than get anyway
3) TorInge should be excluded too?
4) Site category will be changed and Moposite won't win most likely, but it's allowed to take part in
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Well, if ppl don't want moposite to win site award, don't vote it. So be it with other catagories too.
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Post by SveinR »

Here is the list of categories for Golden Apple Awards 2005:

- Team
- Internalist
- Externalist
- Battler
- Rookie

- WR
- Multi WR
- Style
- Replay

- Level
- Designer
- Contest

- Contribution
- Achievement
- Site

Note: In the Site category, you don't necessarily vote for the site that is the "best site" overall, but rather the site that has improved the most, increased its relevancy the most, etc, over the past year.

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Instructions of voting process

First step:
You can reply to this topic and tell your favourite candidates in the different categories. Please list clearly the category and then the suggestion(s). Note: You are not allowed to vote in the third step unless you give any suggestions (one is compulsory but more are recommended) in this step. Arguments are appreciated.

Deadline: 11 November 00:01 EET

Second step:
The jury will choose ten candidates to each category. The jury members will choose the candidates according to their experience and knowledge (they will be also reading the community's suggestions).

Deadline: Will be done as soon as possible.

Third step:
Now we have top10 for each category available. Now again the Elma community can vote. The criterias for being allowed to vote are: Well-known kuski (decided by the jury) and the kuski have posted some suggestions in the first step (so we see that he has been active during the whole process) OR you don't have to be well-known IF you posted a nice suggestion list with reasonable arguments. You don't have to vote in every category but if you do vote in some category you must pick up top5 and not just top1 or top3. So choose top5 or nothing, is the point.

Deadline: December 31st 2005, 23:59 EET

Fourth step:
The jury will collect the top5 for each category according absolutely to the community votes. The point system will be as follows: 5 points to every first position, 4 points to every second position etc.
This will be the top5 to be used in the final show.

Fifth step:
The different jury members will vote over the different categories, and the community will also give 2 points to the candidate who got most votes in the third step, and 1 point to the candidate who got the second-most votes. The different jury members' votes will not be public. In the event of a tie, the candidate who got most points from community in the third step will win. If there still is a tie, the jury will come together and discuss the matter to declare a winner.

The final show is held on IRCnet, channel #gaa.

Date and time: Sunday 15th January, 20:00 EET
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- Team - ICE, FM, MAN
- Internalist - Toringe (greatest ever, makes loads of wrs at a time, 36 mins tt), John (he has made so many wrs recently)
- Externalist - Luther (just so incredible in wcup, made ridiculously impressive drives after only a few hours), Axxu (wonderful pipe replays in the JoPi pack)
- Battler - Markku, Axxu, Jeppe, John, jaytea
- Rookie - Tm, a lot of noobs have been good but he is truly skilled

- WR - Tor Apple H, Tor Lab Pro, Luther HB, Axxu Steep, Tor Ramp Frenzy, Totti HC
- Multi WR - The one with skint0r :*
- Style - Hill Legend, ok not relaly new? but kinda. and Jazka Serps definitely
- Replay - Luther's wc504 (a beautiful example of raw talent), Jalli's wc515 (probably best ever pipe rec, brilliant confidence and incredible proficiency displayed), Luther's HB (terrifically clean and slesk at same time), MP's from that apple pick lev (from what i remember some hard tricks and good cleanliness)

- Level - WC504, cyre's lev (509?), MP apple pick
- Designer - MP, John (great pipe levels)
- Contest - World Cup 5

- Contribution - px for wc, viper for wcscript, FEM organizers
- Achievement - Tor: 37TT and WR at FEM, Tm: fastest 39minclub, jaytea: 4th place in wc508 :*
- Site - moposite, i don't use any other elma sites :S

everything i say is correct and naybody who doesnt agree is mentally sick and should be shot i say

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Team - MK, AC, MAN, WNO
Internalist - TorInge, axxu, Karlis
Externalist - axxu, The OooO

Level - Mking011.lev, Architecture by Undiente
Wcup509 Distilled Dreams by cyre
Wcup514 Coda by Markku

Designer - tijsjoris, 8-ball, MP, Ville_J
Contest - Mopoking, World Cup 5

Site - zworqy.com :roll: , stats.elastomania.ru
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- Team - FM, WNO, ICE, MAN
- Internalist - John, TorInge
- Externalist - MP, axxu, Crazy
- Battler - John, Markku, Jeppe, MAN members
- Rookie - Jazka (is he a rookie?)

- WR - Karlis's WU, John's Bounce Back, Totti's Haircut, TorInge's AH
- Multi WR - Marci & Zsolt's AH, Zweq & mr's ZZ
- Style - axxu's (and Zweq's) AH, Jazka's Serpents
- Replay - definitely Zweq's AH

- Level - masc09 Enjoying Elma by Zebra
- Designer - Juble
- Contest - dunno, but probably not WCup5

- Contribution - Zebra - aranging mopobattles
- Achievement - probably TorInge with 36 tt and tj with 4000 posts :*
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- Team - ICE, WNO, FM
- Internalist - TorInge, John, axxu
- Externalist - axxu, MP
- Battler - axxu, Markku, The OooO
- Rookie - Tm. He's the best real rookie of this year, no russian veterans plz...

- WR - ramone's Bowbling, TorInge's Apple Harvest, Luther's Headbanger
- Style - Jazka's Serpents Tail
- Replay - axxu's pipe in Steep Corner. Simply the best slesk replay i have seen this year.
- Level - CMc75 (Computer Virus) by CMc. That's definitely the best and the most thorough level i have ever seen. And what is unreal about it is that he made it with default in-game editor.

- Designer - CMc, Yano

- Contribution - Bartek for his funny movies and crazy tutorial.
- Achievement - Tm for reaching 39 mins in a very short time
- Site - moposite, stats.elastomania.ru, elmaclub
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- Team - ICE, MAN, WNO
- Internalist - TorInge, John, axxu ( starting to get some WRs )
- Externalist - Luther ( WC ownage ), axxu ( ALP ownage and everything other levpacks ownage )
- Battler - I don't hang much in this channel but, Markku looks good along with The OooO, axxu and surely other guys... maybe Zrex too !
- Rookie - Tm... no question about that

- WR - Tor ( Slalom under 39, Apple Harvest sick time ) axxu ( Steep corner insane ) Totti ( Haircut huge improvement )
- Multi WR - Can't find the table ...
- Style - Jazka's Serpent
- Replay - Luther ( WC504 ) Jalli ( WC515 )

- Level - Juble - Hell's kitchen
- Designer - Juble, John
- Contest - World Cup 5, Master Cup ( was it this year ? )

- Contribution - viper's script, surely some milagros progs, px's constant contribution to the scene
- Achievement - Tor under 37
- Site - LOS site, Moposite, MopoCorner for super-comeback
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Team: ICE, FM, GF, MAN, NL.
Internalist: t0r,Luther, John, axxu, Zweq.
Externalist: Markku, The_OooO, Zox, axxu, Jeppe.
Battler: Jeppe, axxu, Markku, Zox, The_OooO.
Rookie: LEGIONer, proDigy, tm, TTechnik, Kestas.

WR: John's Circuitous (22,29), t0r's Apple Harvest (1:26,90), t0r's Labyrinth Pro (2:17,46), Karlis's Warm Up (14,05), Luther's Headbanger (44,05).
Multi-WR: **
Style: Kuper's and aNpDaD's Uphill Battle...
Replay: WCup04 - Luther's.

Level: **
Designer: Jonsta, Zebra, Cmc, 8 ball, Jeppe.
Contest: **

Contribution: **
Achievement: **
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Team: ICE, TEM
Internalist: Luther, Toringe
Externalist: Markku, OooO.
Battler: OooO, John, Markku, Jaytea (:)), Axxu, Luther.
Rookie: Tm

WR: Luther headbanger

Designer: CMc, Wezz (ADLP)
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Team: MAN (Battles, WC5, externals), AC (2. WC5, and nice TT), GF (5. WC5)
Internalist: Karlis (Beating WR's)
Externalist: MP (WC5), Crazy (just crazy), Axxu (Best)
Battler: ANpDaD, jeppe
Rookie: TTechnik?

WR: Karlis Uphill Battle, Zweq Long Haul, TorInge Ramp Frenzy
Multi WR: Haircut Stini & Juzam
Style: Jokkes Hill Legend
Replay: FloppyPillow Wheelie1.rec

Level: WCup513 px
Designer: jp (many battles)
Contest: Phoho contest idea - niN, EET2 - zworgy

Contribution: Domovoy ( Map Maker program and many more) , BarTek (brutalvolt tutorial and more)
Achievement: MP (Hat trick^2)
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- Team: WNO, ICE, TEM, MAN
- Internalist: Tor, John, Zweq(zimba<3)
- Externalist: Luther, Jeppe
- Battler: Markku, John, enil
- Rookie: Zworqy, Sierra

- WR: Downhill by Luther
- Style: Warm up - dont know who invented though

- Designer: MP and Ville_J

- Achievement: Jeppe getting all quack pipe lev records :D
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Internalist: Toringe(eh?) , John (quite many wrs now), Axxu (some great wrs), Karlis(still here, coming out with new wrs even if he've lost some).

Externalist: Axxu (ALP/JoPi owning !!!, battle, WC5), MP (WC5 winner). Markku(some balle/cup here and there ;))

Team: ICE(wc5, wrs), WNO(wrs), AC(wc5) , MAN(battle,wc5,contest...), FM(abu,dz, karlis..old ladies still here)

Battler: jaytea did good lately, Axxu, Markku, OooO, jp.

Rookie: Tm, prodigy, legioner if those are rookies.

WR: Karlis' WU, Axxu's Over and Under, t0ringe's AH.

Designer: Rasken, jp, zebra

Achievement: t0ringe's 36' TT, MP's 3 wins in a row in WC5
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Why the hell is everybody voting Tm for rookie award? 8O
There are better rookies, but only Tm writes every new time on lauta, but the times are not so good as for example Prodigy's or Legioner's (Legioner has 39:26 tt and at least 5 times in world top ten, Tm has no time there).
Writing every new time on lauta isn't enough for winning GAA I think..
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I have only one nominee, this:
WR: Totti - Haircut, thats the most amazing time i've ever seen, you're the God man!
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OtorK wrote:Why the hell is everybody voting Tm for rookie award? 8O
There are better rookies, but only Tm writes every new time on lauta, but the times are not so good as for example Prodigy's or Legioner's (Legioner has 39:26 tt and at least 5 times in world top ten, Tm has no time there).
Writing every new time on lauta isn't enough for winning GAA I think..
Tm has improved very fast, for me it's not an option to not vote for him as "the rookie". I haven't really heard of Legioner... Prodigy has some sick times, but who is he? How long have they been playing? Anyway... I vote for Tm.
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took a look at Legioner and Prodigy's profile in the kuski gallery and they started playing in the middle of 2003 so they cant be nominate for the best rookie award anymore (?)
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Team
-MAN: active team, and the members are quite tied up together (wonder why). taking part in many external contests and battles
-AC: actually I don't know much more about this team besides that axxu and red is there ..but I guess it's enough edit add: fluff is there too :*
-ICE: best team in wcup
-FM: jokke gone but tisk is back!

Internalist
-TorInge: no need to explain
-Karlis: still continuing taking WRs, all time most consistent internalist
-John: still höyling
-Luther: top kuski with great skill

Externalist
-axxu: gave a good challenge in wcup ;) excellent alp comeback! active in many contests
-The OooO: one of the best externalists for sure. won one wcup event
-Luther: proved his skills in wcup
-Munkki: wc5 top10 + other external activity
-Red: same as above, lately done sick records in Kin Kon Tests (mopocorner)
-Boneless: active as always, specialty is pipes

Battler
-axxu: rules mopobattles

Rookie
I'll skip this one, I don't enough knowledge because haven't followed that much ...at least total list has damn many new names ;o

WR
another hard one but..
-Headbanger: I've seen the rec and at least it was damn smooth ;I
-Warm up: Karlis did the impossible

Multi WR
33. Zig-Zag 32.77 Zweq & mr: unusal pair makes it cooler

Style
-dz's wcup 511: :*
-my wcup 509 start: have to get something back because dame axxu took the win ;Z
edit add: -munkki's wc506 middle

Replay
-wc504 by luther: quite overwhelming

Level
-wcup 513 rollercoaster by px: 100% px

Designer
-ramone: too bad no new contests, but I've seen many of his new levs and those are nice
-zebra: still making quality levels
-Ville_J: good playability with excellent design is the key

Contest
-Wcup5: of course
-Master Cup: biggest non-moposite cup this year
-Mopoking: something new
...can kon quest still make it? ;I

Contribution
-zebra: mopobattles begun again, now it's just up to abula to get them back to moposite
-px: still had energy to arrange wcup
-Abula: arranging gaa and gaa prizes, making paprika updating records etc.
-tijsjoris: even though I don't follow elma scene that much anymore I see him everywhere. really nice to have this active non-scandinavians! The scene needs people like him, and I mean other than active bangoing around

Achievement
-tor: new 24h tt record in fem and wr during that time
and then some wcup stuff..

Site
improved eh, moposite has stayed about the same. I pick none yet
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Team

TAP: Makes great levs to battles & cups & levpacks
TLR: Battlers all the way. Good team spirit
Lame: Seems to have good spirit as well

Externalist:

Crazy: Should have won last year, impressive hoyla mission tiems.

Battler:

The OooO, jaytea, zaraptor, Targenor, zrex: all great bullers
markku, jeppe, axxu, john etc are old farts already, I'd prefer someone fresh.

Style:

MAN middle style in WC506, originally invented by Munkki
MP start in WC509
Replay:

WC winning recs are very nice all but I'd say
WC515 replay by Jalli

Level:

WC506 by Chazz, having a style which is very hard to invent is a sign of an extremely good lev.

Designer:

Rasken, 8-ball, Chazz, iob for battle levs

Site:

Mopo Corner by MP & Ville_J, long lasting and still going strong.

Achievement:

MP's hat trick
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Post by zworqy »

Napoleon wrote:- Rookie: Zworqy, Sierra
LMAO

Me rookie? I've been playing Elma/Across for 7 years, dammit!
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<Fihlvein> another case of zworqy-is-always-right closed i guess
<yoosef> zworqy doesnt suck at anything
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By the way, nominations should be from the time period November 2004->now.

For multi WRs you can check them at this site http://www.home.no/sveinrune/multiwr/oldtables.html from table #120.
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- Internalist - t0r why not?
- Battler - Markku, another obvious choice

- WR - t0r's unbelivable AH WR, everyone said it was unbeatable without new style! -- zweq's AH wr, has there ever been such a unclean WR?
- Style - zweq's/axxu's(?) ah style
- Replay - luther's 504 replay

levelmaker - tijsjoris, danielj
- Level - mking011 by undiente
- Contest - MopoKing

- Site - mopo corner
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