elmacrime movie

davidd · Post by **davidd** » 27 May 2003, 16:01

today i put elma crime on my website, because abula asked it yesterday.

you can find it at http://www.david.van.deijk.nl/elma/elmacrime.avi

Grtz DD.

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 27 May 2003, 16:25

Great work! Downloading now.

Dariuz · Post by **Dariuz** » 27 May 2003, 16:50

Nice

I've seen it once about a year ago, then i deleted it,
but now i'm downloading it again

Harald Hasch · Post by **Harald Hasch** » 27 May 2003, 17:55

I never saw it

downloading....can't wait...

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 27 May 2003, 22:58

ehh, i downloaded it and saw it... to be honest, (sorry) i didn't realy like it :/
didn't really have a point, just 34 mins of weird elma stuff.
although i did like the part where the guy is riding his bike taking apples from the trees, lol

devin · Post by **devin** » 28 May 2003, 02:27

OMGOMGOMG IM so excited i cant wait to dl holy shit i can finally dl it!!!

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small problem
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the dame thing is 375 MB too big

WkE · Post by **WkE** » 28 May 2003, 08:34

i have better things to do with 40 minutes and 400 MB than watching an hungarian movie, thank you.

(nothing against hungaraian)

Flyrre · Post by **Flyrre** » 28 May 2003, 09:51

MopoGirl wrote:ehh, i downloaded it and saw it... to be honest, (sorry) i didn't realy like it :/
didn't really have a point, just 34 mins of weird elma stuff.
although i did like the part where the guy is riding his bike taking apples from the trees, lol

Hehe, maybe it aint a movie for girls

Anyway, I will DL as soon as I get home, I am very excited

I really hope those guy's are as sick as I think they are, take it as a complimant

Ky.Jelly · Post by **Ky.Jelly** » 28 May 2003, 12:12

agree with dz unless i can get it on file sharing and can resume me downloading then i cant get that biga file on 56K

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 28 May 2003, 13:00

not very fair wke, in case you havent seen it yet....
i willdownloadlatermaybe
FUCKING SPACE

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 28 May 2003, 14:33

Ky, i have downloaded it and it's in my shared k-lite folder, the filename is elmacrime.avi and my username is roni_mark@kazaa, try downloading from me, mmkay.

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 28 May 2003, 16:00

man, that was annoying. i mean, shut up bart, really!

davidd · Post by **davidd** » 28 May 2003, 16:15

one mistake i spotted was filming the night scenes at night. If you have no or miserable lighting, you film everything during the day. Making it look dark is a simple filter.

the story line is really stoned. If you like simple stupid humor this is your movie.

Acting: it cleary shows that the actors are really having fun doing the movie, and they smile a little bit to often.

DD.

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 28 May 2003, 16:43

The storyline actually isn't that bad. Seeing this makes me want to make a serious elma movie (I'm not saying that I could've done it).

BarTek: Good analysis, I agree on pretty much all the points.

Post by **SveinR** » 28 May 2003, 17:41

Great, I will download it tomorrow!

Looking forward to seeing it..

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 28 May 2003, 19:01

i remember seeing the movie some time ago (maby year) and laughing my ass off. but bartek that was really good analysis, really good.

Kloque · Post by **Kloque** » 29 May 2003, 04:53

Bartek you *&%^$$@ lom winner bs movie director bar-hooker.

man, that was annoying. i mean, shut up bart, really! with the :)

it wasnt that serious, don't make me kick ur ass...

This wasnt serious either ;)

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 29 May 2003, 10:16

BarTek wrote:(Since i attend to a Movie & Film education in school i coment this)

*This is basic objective rewiev i give by my knowlegde in film making, its not what i think personal*

========================Good Stuff========================

- Idea: The story that is based on how the game can be addictive is very well done. Most players can relate to it and think of their own situations. And is very important that the film reaches out toward the group it was mented for.

.../xxx/...

========================Bad Stuff========================

- Camera: It's tilting and moving all the time, with the budget and effort they could atleast used a "stative" for some scenes. For example in begging when a guy runs to the dead karlifox the camera runs along with him. No money or time to build a "roller" to slide the camera smoothly, so instead they could just have panorated in some scenes with the camera.

About BarTeks opinion of the idea: How can you say that it is good done is: objective? ThatÂ´s 100% your personal opinion? You made forms for ppl to fill in and analyzed? Otherwise it is just assumtions, and as far as I know, assumtions canÂ´t be counted as objective information.

About BarTeks opinion about the Camera: How can you say it is objective good with a steady camera? ThatÂ´s just not true, again, your PERSONAL opinion (Shall I write this in bold red so you donÂ´t missread my words BarTek?). Why should the camera run smooth?

Guess you missed out on the idea with the movie, which you said (objectively, OMG

) reached out to all kuskis.

BarTek wrote:
BarTek wrote:*This is basic objective rewiev i give by my knowlegde in film making, its not what i think personal*
Did you understand that sentence MopoHooker?

Why whine on her when you donÂ´t understand your own words?

sonic_fruit · Post by **sonic_fruit** » 29 May 2003, 11:48

you need to calm down.

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 29 May 2003, 12:23

BarTek wrote:
BarTek wrote:*This is basic objective rewiev i give by my knowlegde in film making, its not what i think personal*
Did you understand that sentence MopoHooker?

first of all, may i compliment you on the "MopoHooker" joke? that was very funny. haha.
second, i put the smilies there so you'd see i was joking. guess you didn't get that.
and finally, what the hell are you talking about? of course it's your personal opinion, it can't be anything other then that if you're trying to review a movie. you're telling YOUR opinion of the good stuff/bad stuuf in the movie.

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 29 May 2003, 13:42

OK, again: It is objective that the camera is not steady.
it is not objective whether it is good or not, or if it should be otherwise... it is not the analyze itself.. but the extreme way it is presented in.

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 29 May 2003, 14:09

exactly mmkay

Ragnar · Post by **Ragnar** » 29 May 2003, 14:21

I thought Movie was great! I comes on the ElmaCD, too!

Vaitork · Post by **Vaitork** » 29 May 2003, 16:12

What about the language

? It's in hungarian, right? Does it have subtitles? Downloading now... just 5%

just 4 more hours..

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 29 May 2003, 16:16

Subtitles: yes.

So funny.

dz · Post by dz » 29 May 2003, 19:35

Ky.Jelly wrote:agree with dz unless i can get it on file sharing and can resume me downloading then i cant get that biga file on 56K

did you mean to agree with someone else or did i miss something?

i've seen the movie two or three times and it's always fun to watch.
stuff like this should definietly be done more.

Flyrre · Post by **Flyrre** » 30 May 2003, 01:01

Watched the movie today and I must say it owned, damned I laughed when Cross get the disk slashed into his forehead

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 30 May 2003, 10:15

BarTek wrote: Ramone: Yea i know you ramone and i could guess you would post here since you like arguing against me since you think i am bit dictating and want ppl to think what i think. But is your post validated and authorized by any good arguments besides revolting againts the "Way of BarTek"?

By valid and good arguments? DidnÂ´t you read what I wrote. Ihave had many discussions over words such as "objective", and a short and simple definition of the word could be handy, cause obviously we use the word in totally different ways. And surely I canÂ´t stop you from doing that, but since you are the one using it in a, to most ppl, uncommon way, the burden of evidence lies upon you, that is basic rules anyone should know.

Post by **SveinR** » 30 May 2003, 10:46

I just watched the movie, it was pretty good. Story wasn't too bad, and I laughed a couple of places too. Thumbs up!

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 30 May 2003, 11:01

BarTek: ok look, all i did was write jokingly "shut up", because your post was all stuck-up. but now this is serious: shut the hell up, honestly, "what i wrote was from what i learned from a proffessor blaablablabla..."
can't you just say "this is what i like in the movie, this is what i didn't" instead of trying to look like you're oh-so-smart?
"I havnt even mentioned the "dramaturgic line" or the establishments of characters and etc". holy shit. shut up.

J-sim · Post by **J-sim** » 30 May 2003, 11:09

MopoGirl wrote:BarTek: ok look, all i did was write jokingly "shut up", because your post was all stuck-up. but now this is serious: shut the hell up, honestly, "what i wrote was from what i learned from a proffessor blaablablabla..."
can't you just say "this is what i like in the movie, this is what i didn't" instead of trying to look like you're oh-so-smart?
"I havnt even mentioned the "dramaturgic line" or the establishments of characters and etc". holy shit. shut up.

As if you had more to add to this discussion by saying that MopoGirl. Maybe you should also consider shutting up

I think its ok for Bartek to give his review on the movie on behalf of what hes learned at school, dont diss that. Wether its objective or not is something else, but all you really say to him is to shut up, you dont have any good reasons for him to do so.

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 30 May 2003, 11:10

Is it true? Sounds like MopoGirl is growing up... is it flames of love I smell?

You donÂ´t say as dumb things anymore.. accually.. that: stuck up- part... I almost wish I would have written that in my part... too bad my english is too poor... I dont find the words when I need them...

ps. be gentle with BarTek.. he is a human too.. he i sjust lost in the world of youth... he is struggling with himself and he is much more fragile than he may seem. ds.

Juble · Post by **Juble** » 30 May 2003, 12:02

BarTek was only from his Semi-Professional media point of veiw

I think some where taking a little to serous

But i hav'nt seen before but i probably will soon

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 30 May 2003, 13:17

BarTek wrote:- Isnt it you who whines about being the "best elma playing girl"

umm EXCUSE ME, can i quote your signature? "Leader of Kinglist || LOM winner of 2002 || 8th pos in World Cup #4 || 2 Golden Apples Awards "

BarTek wrote:-wasnt it you who wanted a "best female" arward in Golden apple arward compo?

no, it wasn't.

BarTek wrote:- Arent you the one who keep bitching about your site?

no...

BarTek wrote:Go stand in a corner for a while babeyh!

that sure was needed.
sorry for huge off-topc post. now enough with this.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 30 May 2003, 19:36

well since people wish to talk about bartek instead of elma crime, fine.

from what i've seen (omg i'm being subjective) bartek is bragging maybe a bit too much about how good he is in everything. it's ok to be proud of your accomplishments but there still is a line between pride and boasting. i'm not any psychologist so shoot me, but compared to every other kuski i've talked with enough to draw some picture bartek is the most boastfull one. it isn't totally negative to boast but it does get to other peoples nerves. especially the way you react to the negative feedback you (inevitably, due to the amount of various stuff you've done) receive. i don't think i've ever seen you admit any fault in anything you do.

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 30 May 2003, 20:43

If you want to discuss BarTek, make a thread about it (or better yet, do it somewhere else). If you want to discuss Elma Crime, you can do it here.

Zooliolo · Post by **Zooliolo** » 31 May 2003, 00:10

Wahey! Finally, Elma Crime download! It rocks. Best low budget movie I have ever seen.

psy · Post by **psy** » 31 May 2003, 10:29

Yeh, dame funey. I loved those picklocking parts, "yaehh, best time!" "try the headbanger! are you sure? its very brutal."

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 31 May 2003, 11:19

MagnusB wrote:If you want to discuss BarTek, make a thread about it (or better yet, do it somewhere else). If you want to discuss Elma Crime, you can do it here.

Why?
What would a discussionboard be if we couldnt discuss eachothers arguments (posts is better use of word I think)? Thats the way discussion works, try to understand why ppl say this or think that. If ppl just said:
A: I like the movie, cause AB &C. and
B: I dislike Elma Crime due to CD & E. etc...
It would be pretty bleak. A too restricted discussion may end up as no discussion at all, of course threads like: "New Times" and similar works under the those rules.. but not these ones. Discussion should be open, and itÂ´s not like it is off-topic. It starts with ppl commenting BarTÂ´s argument (or objective analyze

). And then ppl try to analyze BarT himself, its a pretty natural (whatever that means) way for this to go I assume. And of course you can say: No, itÂ´s not allowed! But I dont see any reason for it. I know the moderator (moporator

) and that you have th elast word, but I feel I need more explanations for why we can not discuss BarT himself here, if you still stand by your words. Which I am sure you do.

In one way I understand you, but there is differences where go go off track, itÂ´s not like we are discussion the new models of SAAB, then your reaction would be understood in my head. At least I think so, maybe there would have been outer condition that would.... oooops... that is something totally different... Nevermind.

Hey Ho, Lets Discuss!

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 31 May 2003, 14:19

God bless DAP. It took 5 hours off my download.
6 hours left...

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 31 May 2003, 14:50

BarTek wrote:So its againts the law to write your accomplishments you are proud over in ur signature mopocum? You had ur "best bitch kuski" in ur signature too ok. And go haraz abula for putting his kom victory in his signature, or anyone else who has written such stuff.

this is getting really stupid. you're the one that brought it up, remember?

BarTek wrote:- Isnt it you who whines about being the "best elma playing girl"

i mean come on, lets look at what happend here: you tried insulting me about something, i responded by showing you that you do the exact same thing, and then suddenly it's ok to do it? ok, sure.

BarTek wrote:*And unlike from you i managed to achive surtain stuff during my time in elma scene*

oh no, i am so inferior to BarTek, the elma god. i now see how wrong i was. forgive me, oh great BarTek.
that was one good insult. you really hurt my feelings there.

Chris Penrose · Post by **Chris Penrose** » 31 May 2003, 15:38

Omg can't we just settle this over a carton apple juice?
Apple juice solves everything.

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 31 May 2003, 17:18

Don't get me wrong ramone, discussing BarTek's arguments is fine, but read the 10 last posts yourself and see how many of them that even mention Elma Crime or BarTek's opinion (personal or proffesional) about the movie. I'm not interested in hearing about whether it's bragging or not to put your accomplishments in your signature, and even if I was, I wouldn't want to see it in this topic.

Ambulance · Post by **Ambulance** » 1 Jun 2003, 01:26

From my point of view, I think BarTek has got it wrong.

You have an objective way of making an analysis of a movie, but you can't review a movie on an objective way wether it is good or bad, as you sometimes tend to do in your "review". Like the camera view that has been discussed some times now. Many people like when the camera is hand held..it gives them a more realistic feeling when they watch the movie, and many like it when the camera is on a camera stand. So according to your reviews, the blair witch project is a total fiasko? I think not. So I think you have something between a review and an analysis, but some good points though.

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 2 Jun 2003, 11:38

BarTek wrote:- Sorry MopoGirl, i like you eventhough this discution...shake hands?

sure :*

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 3 Jun 2003, 19:12

Quicktime an Mediaplayer say both they need a special codec and they can't both download it for some mysterious reason...
I wanna see that frikkin' movie!

does somebody know what ceodec I need and where I can download it?

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 3 Jun 2003, 19:16

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 3 Jun 2003, 22:22

How long will the movie be up?

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 4 Jun 2003, 07:00

I saw the movie and it was great!
apple....flower.....motorbike.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 24 Jun 2003, 23:01

TODAY I HAVE BECOME A COMPLETE ELMA PLAYER
... because I have seen the Elma Crime movie.

I had to go to school to check my grades, so I took the chance to download it and burn it to my CD... the download took 12 mins...
Would have taken a week non-stop with my modem at home.

I really liked the movie. Quite good special effects too, like the CD in the forehead (How did he survive that?), and the gunshot through the head.
(OMG, violent movie).

I liked that the camera was "shaking" sometimes and that the film wasn't too bright.

The "intro" was kinda long, though.

Finally: DON'T MISS THE BLOOPERS IN THE END!