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Post by The_BoneLESS » 4 Aug 2004, 01:42

Let's make this the official thread to talk about this world wide known elma cup....

I'd first like it to take place because i've never participated in any WCs before and they seem very popular, i'd like to make the top 20 !

So, will it ever be, only the future ( and Abula ) will tell us...
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Post by Dyrox » 4 Aug 2004, 06:23

I am really looking forward to a new World Cup!
I have been in WC 4... but my total time was over 1 hour then... :lol:
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Post by 8-ball » 4 Aug 2004, 11:44

Hell, I'm waiting for this WC to occur, never been in one too... Hoping for Top 50 though...
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Post by Dyrox » 4 Aug 2004, 11:52

I think we would rock 8-ball! :P
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Post by Juski » 4 Aug 2004, 12:41

this is gonna be my first one to, im hoping to not get last.
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Post by KickZ » 4 Aug 2004, 12:53

i played the last half of WC4, but i was n00b, so i only got sucky times :?
looking forward to a new wcup, would be great fun.. :D
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Post by Totti » 4 Aug 2004, 14:15

hm WC 4 was really fun :D
Though i didn´t do too good, ended like 51st 8)
But i made some top 20 posistions and came 6th in one event :arrow:

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Post by Kopaka » 4 Aug 2004, 15:12

Would be nice with a new world cup. Would like to see how good I can do nowadays, was pretty n00bie in world cup 4, had only played a few months. Got points twice ;).
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Post by sierra » 5 Aug 2004, 00:57

bring it on

i feel i'm able to at least compete now

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Post by ribot » 5 Aug 2004, 11:58

i think i should host wcup 5, what do you think?

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Post by Ramone » 5 Aug 2004, 15:29

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Post by Juish » 5 Aug 2004, 19:48

wcup5 isnt till 2005 its every two years .. i was still kinda n00b playing in wcup4 ... i got 2xth i think well once darm is taken away i guess ill see what place i am .. maybe better or maybe worse :P
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Post by onlainari » 5 Aug 2004, 20:26

I think the WC5 would be kind of revolutionary. The new wave of kuskis would invade the top 30. Only few previous top10 players would get into top10. One reason for that is that they are getting older, and probably doesn't have as much time to hoyl as they had in earlier cups.

This leads to another question: Should the WCup 5 be held the way the earlier cups were held: Much profit for being a hoyler,meaning that the event is week or two long.... But to sort out the best kuski,it could be maybe better that at least some of the events lasts only 30 minutes or 1 day. HMM were there 1 day events in WC4, I forgot?

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Post by SveinR » 5 Aug 2004, 22:29

Juish wrote:wcup5 isnt till 2005 its every two years
Well, WCup4 started in August 2002, so that would make well nigh two years wouldn't it? :)
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 5 Aug 2004, 23:10

SveinR wrote:
Juish wrote:wcup5 isnt till 2005 its every two years
Well, WCup4 started in August 2002, so that would make well nigh two years wouldn't it? :)
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Post by SveinR » 5 Aug 2004, 23:13

I'm really hoping for a wcup 5 some time soon, but hey, let px take his time ok :) We want this to be as good as it can be don't we? :)
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Post by Abula » 6 Aug 2004, 00:00

Just a idea.

1. event: 15mins
2. event: 2 weeks
3. event: 30mins
4. event: 13 days
5. event: 1h
6. event: 12 days
7. event: 3h
8. event: 11 days
9. event: 6h
10. event: 10 days
11. event: 12h
12. event: 9 days
13. event: 1 day
14. event: 8 days
15. event: 2 days
16. event: 7 days
17. event: 3 days
18. event: 6 days
19. event: 4 days
20: event: 5 days

or

1. event: 15mins
2. event: 30mins
3. event: 1h
4. event: 3h
5. event: 6h
6. event: 12h
7. event: 1 day
8. event: 2 days
9. event: 3 days
10. event: 4 days
11. event: 5 days
12. event: 6 days
13. event: 7 days
14. event: 8 days
15. event: 9 days
16. event: 10 days
17. event: 11 days
18. event: 12 days
19. event: 13 days
20: event: 14 days

Bad thing is that you can easily lose quite many points if you cannot be online in correct time in first battles.
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 6 Aug 2004, 00:59

I think levels should be :

Minimum : 2 days
Maximum : 2 weeks !

In other words, make it like Wcup4 but, with better levels... !

Because, it's hard for some people to get on computer at 12:00 when you're at school or at work !
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Post by Jalli » 6 Aug 2004, 01:27

ye short events like battles are "unfair" some ppl might miss them due to different things and also there are kuskis in WAY different time zones
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Post by devan » 6 Aug 2004, 01:33

i think 15,30mins levs should cater to euro players' time; there are more there. im in canada, i would stay up for any hours to play WC balle :D

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Post by KD » 6 Aug 2004, 10:02

No way for 15 min balles, that would be just way too unfair. 1 day long event is risky too, but that one i'd say ok.
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Post by Ramone » 6 Aug 2004, 10:41

world cup is world cup

Not world battle!

if you want a big big battlecontest maybe moposite could host one, but in this case I am pretty conservative, world cup should not get too many changes. World Cup is about hoyling too much, about being in a good team, abouting testing all you can imagine to find best style. About begging other teams for recs and: " ok, but don´t say I gave this" and so on.

Battle event in WC5 would definately mess it up... winner recs wouldnt be so fun to see and so on. Also as allready mentioned many ppl wouldnt be able to attend all events.

Maybe you should just make mopobattles start again. Many ppl play them, but no need for them to play all.

On the other hand there is some things I´ve always missed in cups. A really really short level.. like below 15 secs. And not too tricky, maybe not too plain either.. but max hoyla. REALLY max, and top20 (or more) would be VERY VERY tight. Also in King Cup MP had a very long event... WC should have one REALLY long event... winner recs up close to, or over 4 minutes (well.. I know one cant predict winner rec.. but.. and then not just long level in boring corridors.. but with some different ways to drive and so.. That would be rocks to see how extreme ppl are. Well.. thats my opinion. And I can´t see why ppl wont agree :wink:
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Post by Luther » 6 Aug 2004, 10:46

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Post by Dyrox » 6 Aug 2004, 11:42

I think that the minimum time for a level should be 3 days!
Because else, many players can't participate since they are going in school or working... I wanna participate in a WC! Can't we start one soon? :D
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Post by magicman » 6 Aug 2004, 19:42

OMFG its soon 2years since WC4 started, i gotha say it feels like it was some months ago it ended... but wc4 was during ½year
And WC4 was way to long(½year) and to many events, i think there should be 15 and some shorter events like 3days-1week and last höylday should be on monday instead of sunday, cus sundays is still so booring and(almost) every1 is at home then.

Ez my army ends at November this year and Halflife2/WorldOfWorldcraft is cumming out then, so ez play that for some months, then mibi WorldCup5 could take place ^^

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Post by MP » 6 Aug 2004, 20:17

As magicman said, 20 events was WAY too much. 15 is the maximun I can think of. Battle events would be cool but all the problems related to them have already been said so no use for me to repeat them. Instead of the battles there could be more shorter events, like 2-4days. Two week events are totally useless, last time there were no one (well maybe Jalli :wink: ) who played both weeks.
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Post by Ramone » 6 Aug 2004, 20:51

go Jalli! :D
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Post by ville_j » 6 Aug 2004, 22:06

Ya definitely not 15mins battle rounds.... I couldn't partcipate them, and I can't make good times in such a short time (not that I could make good times at all :D ) 2 days would be ok... and 2 weeks is too much. I participated wc4 but I was so sucky player backthen that I think I would make much better nowdays... I hope. We'll see if wc5 someday starts, and I'm really looking forward to it.

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Post by cyre » 6 Aug 2004, 22:22

ramone wrote:world cup is world cup

Not world battle!

if you want a big big battlecontest maybe moposite could host one, but in this case I am pretty conservative, world cup should not get too many changes. World Cup is about hoyling too much, about being in a good team, abouting testing all you can imagine to find best style. About begging other teams for recs and: " ok, but don´t say I gave this" and so on.

Battle event in WC5 would definately mess it up... winner recs wouldnt be so fun to see and so on. Also as allready mentioned many ppl wouldnt be able to attend all events.

Maybe you should just make mopobattles start again. Many ppl play them, but no need for them to play all.

On the other hand there is some things I´ve always missed in cups. A really really short level.. like below 15 secs. And not too tricky, maybe not too plain either.. but max hoyla. REALLY max, and top20 (or more) would be VERY VERY tight. Also in King Cup MP had a very long event... WC should have one REALLY long event... winner recs up close to, or over 4 minutes (well.. I know one cant predict winner rec.. but.. and then not just long level in boring corridors.. but with some different ways to drive and so.. That would be rocks to see how extreme ppl are. Well.. thats my opinion. And I can´t see why ppl wont agree :wink:
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Post by Jalli » 6 Aug 2004, 23:52

MP wrote:As magicman said, 20 events was WAY too much. 15 is the maximun I can think of. Battle events would be cool but all the problems related to them have already been said so no use for me to repeat them. Instead of the battles there could be more shorter events, like 2-4days. Two week events are totally useless, last time there were no one (well maybe Jalli :wink: ) who played both weeks.

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Post by Revolt » 7 Aug 2004, 11:20

first few levs that are 15mins and that would be arraged for the day time in scndinavia and all europe countries, ez be in bed here in aus :S
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Post by chux » 7 Aug 2004, 16:16

2 days - 2 weeks sounds good to me.
But whatever happens, I want this cup to start, I want to compete in this one, I didnt do a lot for the WC4 or KC contests...
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Post by Juish » 8 Aug 2004, 08:16

is there a place where ppl can submit levels ? i kinda want to make one for the cup, help out if i can... or i forget if ppl that arent playing are only ones that submit .. cause i know px (EDIT: damn typo==>) does change the levels after they are submitted
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Post by skint0r » 8 Aug 2004, 08:20

He DOES change the levels after receiving them, and I believe you can play your own levs as well. At least it was like that in WCup3 and WCup4
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Post by Kopaka » 8 Aug 2004, 09:24

Juish wrote:is there a place where ppl can submit levels ?
He usually announces on moposite news when he want's ppl to send in levels. Guess u shouldn't think about maknig levels before he says the cup is actually going to happen.

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Post by Juble » 8 Aug 2004, 10:09

I thought px started asking for levels a month ago d:D

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Post by ribot » 9 Aug 2004, 23:02

i disagree violently.

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Post by onlainari » 14 Aug 2004, 12:04

predictions & thoughts:

The longer the event and less you hoyl the less chance there is that you send in.
Average kuski have this property of feeling ashamed for making a bad result in an event. Players who play to show others have this property stronger than the others. This property gets stronger the longer the event lasts. Tho the longer the event is the more chance there is that more people get to play the level. I don't know the current status of the community activity,but if there are lot of eager young non-experienced talents attending this Cup,then it means that the contest will be nice,tough and people will actually send in. In this case I guess the good ol' conservative 1 week events thing is perfect.
But if half the players are old kuskis that don't have time to play much,then the cup could be a minor disaster and the inactivity would arise and it could lead to the point that the WC6 will never become existed.

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Post by Kopaka » 15 Aug 2004, 08:32

That not sending is because you have a bad time is just lame. All that have played more than 15 mins should send in, in cups imo.

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Post by Juski » 2 Sep 2004, 21:40

Now when abu is back ez talk about WC5 again!
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Post by SveinR » 2 Sep 2004, 22:49

Juski wrote:Now when abu is back ez talk about WC5 again!
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Post by Juski » 3 Sep 2004, 11:02

i didnt put words in your mouth, but if abu had something to do with WC5 then i would have taken them from you...
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Post by The_BoneLESS » 11 Oct 2004, 15:44

Hey, haven't someone forgot about that :?:
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Post by JeMsTaR » 12 Oct 2004, 12:23

i'm gonna compete lol
just wanna see how i fair amongst the big guns lol

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Post by teajay » 12 Oct 2004, 19:24

let's hope there will be a wc soon... :?

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Post by magicman » 12 Oct 2004, 22:06

Must come up with some crazy ideas... Money, all will play harder and more people will come and play if there's money(more money)!
So who/wich people will get the money? for example maybe ->>
- Winner of WorldCup5
- Best team
- Best level (vote it?)
- Best replay (vote it?)
- Making Hattrick
- Money to host of WC5
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So how will we get more money? Maybe some of the best players/lev designers/teams can see it as placing a bet. If they are quite sure about winning the team win maybe they can bet 50$ and so will other teams do and best players etc.. and there's allways some generous guys?
This would make WorldCup even more action and better levs?
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Post by Juski » 12 Oct 2004, 22:53

I think like maybe a small amount winning for every episode then a big amount for the total winner. the team and other stuff, nat good ideas.
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Post by Abula » 13 Oct 2004, 13:29

Not sure if money will get things better but without more donations, at least we, cannot offer much.
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Post by SveinR » 13 Oct 2004, 15:46

I don't think money prizes would have any significance either way. They wouldn't be that big, and it's alot cooler to win trophies than money! And participants, well, WC4 had more than 100 on almost each lev.
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Post by milagros » 13 Oct 2004, 15:50

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