Who invented 'fast' elma??

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 3 May 2006, 00:39

Anyone who has begun playing Elma and Across in the last 6 or so years has probably learned the idea of playing Elma quickly from websites and replay sharing. But who were the first guys to realize that volting off surfaces gave you speed? And that you could build up rotation and get even faster pushes? And that you could bounce, and do brutal volts, and that pipes could be driven, and all kinds of the subtle manouevres and tricks that we use nowadays to get clean rides.

We newcomers take for granted that this knowledge was around before our time. But we never consider that at some point in time this knowledge did not exist.

Who were the first people to aim to drive cleanly? When you give Elma to a noob, without showing him professional recs, he will just screw around and take forever to finish the level. Even those noobs who have completed the game will ask you "Why would I want to play a level after I've finished it??". So who were the first guys to compete for times on Elma levels, who were the founding fathers of the game as we know it today?

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 3 May 2006, 00:48

I'd like to add, I'm disappointed that not enough emphasis and praise is put on these guys, if they exist. The guys from very, very, far back, the guys who even Abula only vaguely remembers or perhaps doesn't remember at all, they are the ones who gave birth to our scene and I'm sure it would cause them a lot of dissatisfaction to learn that their legacy went by unnoticed.

Dynamo · Post by **Dynamo** » 3 May 2006, 02:36

I remember reading the story of when Abula begun elma...in a team with Tuska, Markku, and...was it Tisk?...neways I can't remember, he knows the story better I suppose XD

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 3 May 2006, 04:36

was it FM? http://www.moposite.com/fm/tales.php
anyway sierra should write articles more often

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 3 May 2006, 08:53

i started only 5 years ago:/

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 3 May 2006, 09:24

i remember doing long haul shortcut in across (drop off from left, jump for the 2 apples), but that was copied from juzam and he had copied it from big bro who had copied it from some rec. so who made those first recs i donno.

long haul shortcut was fakin hard btw

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 3 May 2006, 11:52

sry svein, off topic:

Sierra, I suggest you become a Mopolauta News writer =)

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 3 May 2006, 12:47

I think many people 'invented' driving for best times. Like if one guy finds the game, he tell his friend about it and he play too. Then those two could start playing for best times in some of the first internals without knowing about the scene and such.

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 3 May 2006, 15:53

Intelligent beings are capable of independently inventing styles; whether the styles they drive were existing or new, that depends on the period of history they did so.

dz · Post by dz » 3 May 2006, 19:55

sounds like you have heard of me!

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 3 May 2006, 21:51

Everything that has a timecounter and that is played by more than 1 person who have contact with each other will sooner or later be "hÃ¶yled", so i dont think we need to credit the inventors of fast elma so much :X

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 3 May 2006, 21:58

that competition factor is true.
but the question is not if we need to trace that back, but if we can.

Post by **Abula** » 5 May 2006, 02:50

There are old Across WR tables around. Some of the guys are mentioned in Community history which I'm going to upgraded someday soon.

I really like the idea of giving credits of these kind of things but it's not too easy to know who did what and when. Why not starting to make a database and gathering information of these?

In 98-99 I played hej levels where many special tricks were needed to finish the levels. Does anyone else remember? The designer had included sample replays in the pack and they were cool like hell.

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 5 May 2006, 04:42

I wasn't even born at that time

(elma-born, I should mean)

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 6 May 2006, 00:33

I remember HEJ levs. I also recall there was a record page for every level in the level packs on the official page. I used to have some records there. Anyone else remember that?