berh still cheats

jaytea · Post by **jaytea** » 11 Jul 2006, 12:14

once a cheater, always a cheater it seems. thinking noone would notice, berh used some program to boost his acceleration (probably a modified nitro) on a couple of micro #battle levels to gain an unfair advantage (the only way he could ever win a battle obviously)

this can be seen from the following:

http://www.mxb.dk/upload/Uhsep365.lev
http://www.mxb.dk/upload/Uhs365be.rec

yes, he could have accelerated in the other direction for a bit then spaced to get more rear..but merging his rec clearly shows him keeping up with the following one. this is how the bike is supposed to behave if you hold space + accelerate at start:

http://www.mxb.dk/upload/uhs365.rec

then a few battles later he won again. quite obviously cheated this time:

http://www.mxb.dk/upload/Uhsep368.lev
http://www.mxb.dk/upload/Uhs368be.rec
http://www.mxb.dk/upload/uhs368.rec

i believe he also cheated uhsep367 as well but i dont have his rec for that, if someone else has it plz upload

i propose we ban this mongo from #battle permanently so this shit can be avoided. i mean.. did he think we wouldnt notice?? a simple merge proves he xiited, how can he be that stupid? LOZL

berh if you dont think you'll ever be good at elma, and feel the need to use these bÃ¶g programs, why dont you just quit so i and everyone else no longer need to stomach the constant stream of crap you hurl at us on a daily basis. fuck you

btw thanks jsim for originally pointing this out

Orcc · Post by **Orcc** » 11 Jul 2006, 12:37

Looks like this: xiit0r to me.

Harald Hasch · Post by **Harald Hasch** » 11 Jul 2006, 12:41

sach nab, very obviously

cheetar -> fuck off

John · Post by **John** » 11 Jul 2006, 13:09

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 11 Jul 2006, 13:18

so i think, his crazy hoyla records are cheated too >:(

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 11 Jul 2006, 13:28

Huh, why am I constantly accused of such things? #Battle is another home for me, I do respect its rules, I would never go so low to use some nitro programs, I don't even have nitro patch on my computer installed. I object to what jaytea wrote, my replays look normally, my only tweak is vsync on/off, which i change quite often. I have often noticed that elma bike behaves differently on different computers, I have nothing more to say let mila check those and show the truth, but believe me I love #battle so much that I would NEVER came up with such a stupid idea...

jonsterion · Post by **jonsterion** » 11 Jul 2006, 13:45

berhabdul wrote:Huh, why am I constantly accused of such things? #Battle is another home for me, I do respect its rules, I would never go so low to use some nitro programs, I don't even have nitro patch on my computer installed. I object to what jaytea wrote, my replays look normally, my only tweak is vsync on/off, which i change quite often. I have often noticed that elma bike behaves differently on different computers, I have nothing more to say let mila check those and show the truth, but believe me I love #battle so much that I would NEVER came up with such a stupid idea...

I'm sorry but believe me, I'v changed vsync ON/OFF many many many many many times and tried combos like using quicktime or itunes etc and I never had such results. Maybe you want to share some 13370r combination/tweak with us?

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 11 Jul 2006, 15:32

Well there's definetly something unnormal here...
some times the bike seems to be like +-1pixel in difference when u merge. But these recs are ez cheated.. weather Berh drove 'em or not. Maybe someone is accusing him for cheating when he's not?...
i don't know.

ps. Jaytea u may ez shoot at me for saying this.

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 11 Jul 2006, 16:21

im not saying one way or the other... cuz I can see that he accelerates quicker...

but elma has a way of behaving weird... if you for instance take an autoplay level, the bike doesnt do the same time every time (which it should) and it doesnt always do the same things (which it should) and actually sometimes it doesnt even complete (which it should), when the result should be the same every time..

I say let the "pro-anticheaters" have a look at his recs, and if they cant find anything wrong with it, then shut up.

dz · Post by dz » 11 Jul 2006, 16:23

Those replays are clearly strange. I can't belive somebody thought he could get away for that. I mean, using +speed cheat on a flat level, how stupid!

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 11 Jul 2006, 16:54

you thought that speedups could have boosted your reputation...! perhaps it was not the good way....

Post by **Abula** » 11 Jul 2006, 17:10

I'm not 100% familiar with the anti-cheating tools but two of them said "ez cheat".

jonsterion · Post by **jonsterion** » 11 Jul 2006, 17:43

Abula wrote:I'm not 100% familiar with the anti-cheating tools but two of them said "ez cheat".

Oaps for behr.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 11 Jul 2006, 18:12

ez higher acceleration and also head in the wall (and quite deep)

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 11 Jul 2006, 18:45

milagros wrote:ez higher acceleration and also head in the wall (and quite deep)

well run them thru your little program and gives us a real answer please

kinghias · Post by **kinghias** » 11 Jul 2006, 19:05

WAHAHA, LOOSER!

dz · Post by dz » 11 Jul 2006, 19:06

petsen wrote:
milagros wrote:ez higher acceleration and also head in the wall (and quite deep)

well run them thru your little program and gives us a real answer please

I pretty sure he just did that.

Why do I get a disrespectful feeling from your lines about anticheating community anyway?

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 11 Jul 2006, 19:22

what if... this was all a dream...

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 11 Jul 2006, 19:26

my prog says 1008 speed and head in the wall in 1st rec

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 11 Jul 2006, 19:33

speed detection might be +/-1 (tunning), but usually isn't (both recs say 1008)
head can be 0.2250 from the wall and here is 0.0035, that work always exactly and it's quite deep in

OtorK · Post by **OtorK** » 11 Jul 2006, 19:35

I don't like this fakkin cheater even more now

skint0r · Post by **skint0r** » 11 Jul 2006, 20:03

Am I missing something? He's not even near to hitting his head in any of these recs..?

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 11 Jul 2006, 21:23

lolz recs, never seen sach way of acceleration :X but still bongo if he denies sach cheat as he do.. clearly something spooky here :S

otherwise pretty good tune eh? wander if nat berh could hÃ¶yl some WU?

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 11 Jul 2006, 21:41

skint0r wrote:Am I missing something? He's not even near to hitting his head in any of these recs..?

agree

dz · Post by dz » 11 Jul 2006, 21:48

ez warm up time!

Kestas · Post by **Kestas** » 11 Jul 2006, 22:07

yeah i've thought of it as well. some dame sweet time on wu wr coulve been done by this boi!

some suspicious app has deffinitelly been used to achieve such a boost in these recs i can no doubtedly say.. i remember him winning hoyla pipes agains many players a couple of times in battle in the past with some nice times which made me say waw... wonder was it the same mysterious trick or stuff like this?

dunno is it ok to ban him for this couse i still have a pity for him, just all i want is the truth. hmm, knowing that he has some skills in scripting is something that makes me hesitate about what he just said. that nubish lev name randomizer, some trick by tracking last seconds of battlebot automatically when it is a time to start a new battle by avoiding the flood does shows the fact that he's not too stupid for the C++ i would say

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 11 Jul 2006, 22:08

skint0r wrote:Am I missing something? He's not even near to hitting his head in any of these recs..?

hmm.. i don't get it, something is strange in those recs
as far as i remember it always showed head at correct position (checked many times with those 'almost in wall' recs) but here the head is deep in the wall and also he catches the flower also with first volt... i'll check it tomorrow

edit: i run wrong exe.. it's ok, but speed is 1008

sierra · Post by **sierra** » 12 Jul 2006, 10:17

petsen wrote:
milagros wrote:ez higher acceleration and also head in the wall (and quite deep)

well run them thru your little program and gives us a real answer please

Why the condescending tone? Maybe you could write a "little program" and find out the answer for yourself. Mila owes nothing to you.

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 12 Jul 2006, 13:52

no tone. But isnt Mila part of the anitcheat team? .. If he is then a real answer would be preferable. Besides are u milas bitch since u answer for him? I think he is old enough to handle things himself.

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 12 Jul 2006, 17:01

actually I read it too with a tone, but since it's only words it gives more room for interpretation that speech would: there's this ambiguity.

perhaps:
run them thru your program "and you'll see for sure"
(or "have you run them thru your little program?")
this formulation could have made me read it another way...

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 12 Jul 2006, 17:33

Please answer immediately and finally lock this topic, I cant stand being pointed at every now and again on #Battle

huh, i'm banned

very unpleasant community you are

unjust and strange, mila please make an official proved "SURE" answer u'll see i'm clean

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 12 Jul 2006, 18:17

simon_labroue wrote:actually I read it too with a tone, but since it's only words it gives more room for interpretation that speech would: there's this ambiguity.

perhaps:
run them thru your program "and you'll see for sure"
(or "have you run them thru your little program?")
this formulation could have made me read it another way...

I admit ez misunderstand the tone.. sorry mila not meant badly

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 12 Jul 2006, 18:20

hmm, i have liek 30 subfolders with elma stuff which i made 4 years ago,it was copied and moved from diferent computers and i simply don't know whta's where and so on
those recs have 1008 speed and that's it (abula might have some mgen's prog that counts it some different way to prove, i don't)
anyway i really dont care if berh cheats or not

kinghias · Post by **kinghias** » 12 Jul 2006, 18:32

milagros wrote:anyway i really dont care if berh cheats or not

wow, that makes you a really trustable member/leader of the anticheat-movement, nice attitude...

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 12 Jul 2006, 18:40

he has no contract.

only 1% more acceleratioN? I thought I could clearly see it with my naked eyes, without merging.... anyways mila gave his judgement: berh used speedboost

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 12 Jul 2006, 19:28

if anyone has nitro, he can try if it's like that with 1008

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 12 Jul 2006, 19:38

kinghias wrote:
milagros wrote:anyway i really dont care if berh cheats or not
wow, that makes you a really trustable member/leader of the anticheat-movement, nice attitude...

perhaps elma community can pay me some 1000pounds/month and I can work part-time 2hours/day on it

Post by **Abula** » 12 Jul 2006, 20:35

milagros wrote:if anyone has nitro, he can try if it's like that with 1008

Tried. To my eyes it seems same.

Judgement: ez 1008

kinghias · Post by **kinghias** » 12 Jul 2006, 22:48

milagros wrote:
kinghias wrote:
milagros wrote:anyway i really dont care if berh cheats or not
wow, that makes you a really trustable member/leader of the anticheat-movement, nice attitude...
perhaps elma community can pay me some 1000pounds/month and I can work part-time 2hours/day on it

haha like this cheat-thingie requires 2h per day for lets say one cheater per month

Ve$ · Post by **Ve$** » 13 Jul 2006, 02:18

very unpleasant community you are

Welcome to russian community, we need fresh blood

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 13 Jul 2006, 08:47

kinghias wrote:
milagros wrote:
kinghias wrote:
milagros wrote:anyway i really dont care if berh cheats or not
wow, that makes you a really trustable member/leader of the anticheat-movement, nice attitude...
perhaps elma community can pay me some 1000pounds/month and I can work part-time 2hours/day on it
haha like this cheat-thingie requires 2h per day for lets say one cheater per month

then it's not worth to try

berhabdul · Post by **berhabdul** » 13 Jul 2006, 17:55

So, I was found guilty???

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 13 Jul 2006, 18:21

yes. speedboost (1008)

Xiphias · Post by **Xiphias** » 13 Jul 2006, 18:24

berhabdul wrote:So, I was found guilty???

100% but if anyone does anything about it i don't know

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 13 Jul 2006, 18:44

blacklist for sure..

jonsterion · Post by **jonsterion** » 13 Jul 2006, 19:03

Xiphias wrote:
berhabdul wrote:So, I was found guilty???
100% but if anyone does anything about it i don't know

He was banned yesterday from both #battle and #mopobattle.

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 13 Jul 2006, 20:06

this is the time to admit your sin, before ppl start hating u for good..

simon_labroue · Post by **simon_labroue** » 13 Jul 2006, 21:50

if DarM would not have admitted his cheating I would not kept respecting him. it was like: ok.... I cheated and got caught, now a little interview and I take a break

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 13 Jul 2006, 21:52

ye it is max annoying, if you wont agree that thing.. U are cheater, that's it.! I'll respect you much much more if you say liek this: "Yes i cheated."

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 13 Jul 2006, 23:44

btw i noticed thread said: berh still cheats
still?
did he cheat before, or what am i missing :I

berh still cheats

berh still cheats

if you deny you can't evolve

Re: if you deny you can't evolve