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by milagros » 30 Nov 2002, 21:59
all nostrada's and mrickx's replays i have were paused, saved-loaded, edited or driven with different time scale
also many others state-edited
..black list will be muuuuch longer in a few days
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by magicman » 30 Nov 2002, 22:05
That's lame if!!!! but I dont think so...
PeXi would have checked taht..maybe?
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by milagros » 30 Nov 2002, 22:08
magicman wrote:That's lame if!!!! but I dont think so...
PeXi would have checked taht..maybe?
i can prove it
pexi, abula and mgen can do it too now
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by epp » 30 Nov 2002, 22:09
are u sure, milagros?
not to offend u, but maybe u are just being paranoid?
But of course, if it have been edited or anything of those u have mentioned, u can tell if theyre cheaters!
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by MP » 30 Nov 2002, 22:10
this is too much for me....

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by Napoleon » 30 Nov 2002, 22:12
shit, can't believe it!
How can they save-load it?!
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by epp » 30 Nov 2002, 22:12
i dont hope its true... cheating sux
it wouldnt be smart for a guy like mrickx to cheat.
he´s just been caught... maybe again?
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by magicman » 30 Nov 2002, 22:32
hmm, dunno what to say... hope all cheators will be cought...
but i really hope some1 have cheated..! cus it's really bad style of them if!
Like the "nice-guys" who got to höyl like CRASY... and they just save&load it :\
cya tomorrow also? (quite improtant moment ok!)
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by SveinR » 30 Nov 2002, 22:44
If this is true it is very sad for the Elasto Mania world

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by Jonas » 30 Nov 2002, 22:50
Just a tought this....why are they both from REM (Nostrada was)?....is there something there maybe....
And Miloagros you´llbe a hero if it´s true

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by Cloud » 30 Nov 2002, 22:57
Milagros, how many mrickx's recs u have checked btw? I don't think he cheated more than Long Haul, at least I hope so he didn't.
Well, keep up the good work

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by Kopaka » 30 Nov 2002, 23:03
milagros: How can you see if the replays is cheated ??
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by Sick_Mambo » 30 Nov 2002, 23:28
Kopaka wrote:milagros: How can you see if the replays is cheated ??
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Please dont answer that, as long as you, pexi and Abula knows how to do it its fine, but if you spread the word then someone will find a way to counter your methods.
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by magicman » 30 Nov 2002, 23:34
hmm that's truee!!!
just give it to Abula/PeXi and shut up about it ,))
have a nice day
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by chux » 1 Dec 2002, 00:56
Craaaaaazy! Jeez id like to know how you found out...
Whats gonna happen to these guys?
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by dz » 1 Dec 2002, 01:58
well, at least i know im never gonna get caught on cheating ;*****
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by Abula » 1 Dec 2002, 02:21
Calm down, you are just making yourself crazy. It was a mistake to tell here before talking to anticheat group. I have checked about 400 replays and the result is quite interesting. We will inform later. At least one old WR is proven to be cheated for 99.9% sure.
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by milagros » 1 Dec 2002, 02:44
why was it mistake?
they cheated
that's for sure
i've checked hundreds of replays and only all nostrada's and two mrickx's didn't pass the test
and they were so sure that it can't be detected
i'll not tell how it works, it's not damn hard to skip it..only a little
..to prove that they cheated i will make those cheats
as nostrada said....to now the alien you must have an alien
and next i'll do it for multiplaying (test whether those parts were made together and also time detection)
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by Abula » 1 Dec 2002, 02:49
According to your program I'm cheater too. Some of my replays are cheated if your program tells the truth. So it doesn't work correct. But this public talk is over now, milagros, read mails.
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by milagros » 1 Dec 2002, 10:30
Abula wrote:According to your program I'm cheater too. Some of my replays are cheated if your program tells the truth. So it doesn't work correct. But this public talk is over now, milagros, read mails.
you cheater...ban him, abula
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by chux » 1 Dec 2002, 13:37
Damn, looks like the omnipotent Abula is a mere mortal...a cheating one at that...

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by Abula » 1 Dec 2002, 18:35
I don't find this any amusing.
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by Antz » 1 Dec 2002, 20:28
i think there's some pretty phunny sarcasticly black humor behind this

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by dz » 2 Dec 2002, 00:08
lol eml & nostrada doing it again eh? LMAO
only their recs are detected with new proggy or what
well if it say abu's cheating to.. umm it's kinda crap then
r we gonna have another huuuuge scandal ey ;\
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by Abula » 2 Dec 2002, 03:03
Nothing is proven yet. Calm down and wait.
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by Antz » 2 Dec 2002, 14:05
true. nostra is a nice guy, but if he really repeadetly cheats i don't think he should be let continue driving wrs to the table, cheated or not.
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by Abula » 2 Dec 2002, 15:15
BarTek: your replays seem to be cheated too according to the program.
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by Napoleon » 2 Dec 2002, 15:40
hæhæ lol, BarTek shhh next time

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by MP » 2 Dec 2002, 16:46
LOL, this new program rules ...you never know who is the next cheater to get caught, it's randomly chosen

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by milagros » 2 Dec 2002, 17:05
the bugs are already fixxxed
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by dz » 2 Dec 2002, 17:11
and now it says pexi cheats! shh
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by MopoGirl » 2 Dec 2002, 18:16
milagros, what does the program say about YOUR replays?
lol, there are three milgros' at #across right now
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by Karlis » 2 Dec 2002, 22:29
damn he fixed the bugs, now it won't call Abula a cheater anymore

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by magicman » 3 Dec 2002, 12:28
Tjeinare Bartek

hehe cheater
seems like every1 is a cheat0r

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by Kopaka » 3 Dec 2002, 14:25
atleast I think every1 have thinked of cheating...
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by Antz » 3 Dec 2002, 16:41
i've never. O_O HONESTLY! never thought of cheating. O_Onever!!
please believe me!
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by MJXII » 3 Dec 2002, 17:17
It really would be a bit pointless if you cheated. i don't get the whole *cheating* thing

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by dz » 3 Dec 2002, 17:42
so what's happening here!!!! give us some info got damnet
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by Karlis » 3 Dec 2002, 18:37
nothing special, milagros' prog just said that some dz has cheated....who cares..
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by MP » 3 Dec 2002, 22:45
Karl I think you missed the newest info, you are the cheater

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by Karlis » 4 Dec 2002, 05:11
it's ok, but now they cought you too

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by milagros » 4 Dec 2002, 16:09
newest info is top secretz0r
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by dz » 4 Dec 2002, 16:44
i bet newest info is your little proggy is giving to weird results0r again0r eh

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by DacBitch » 5 Dec 2002, 10:24
MP wrote:LOL, this new program rules ...you never know who is the next cheater to get caught, it's randomly chosen

yeah this time, the winner is....
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by Abula » 9 Dec 2002, 23:35
MGen aka carc made his program while milagros improved his. They are not 100% ready but some cheats can be detechted for 100% sure. I won't tell which cheats, you know why. From now I can tell only new cheat:
8. Tag, table #084, mrickx [REM] CZE, time 21,64
I'm organizing my WR replay folder and when MGen gets his program ready we can (hopefully) tell all the rest WR cheats. partybear promised to code me a sweet program to regenerate old WR tables and WR statistics so this issue is kind of solved too.
Blacklist will be updated when I've checked all WR replays. Did You cheat? Statedited? Be a man and tell us yourself.
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by dz » 10 Dec 2002, 02:25
so is moposite going to "fix" old tables or leave all cheated times permanently there?
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by Abula » 10 Dec 2002, 03:59
dz wrote:so is moposite going to "fix" old tables or leave all cheated times permanently there?
Fix, it will be very easy with a new program. Maybe we make a list of cheated WRs somewhere.
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by Abula » 10 Dec 2002, 05:14
I just checked all current WRs for statedit cheat and found six new ones. I ask these guys to mail me personally.
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by Antz » 10 Dec 2002, 05:40
6 O_O?? how is it possible? u sure ur prog works?.. hard to believe that _6_ times there are cheated like that..
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by Vaitork » 10 Dec 2002, 05:45
Sad pathetic people who cheat... yeah, my gameplay suck... but at least i don't cheat
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