New cheating wave

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 30 Nov 2002, 21:59

all nostrada's and mrickx's replays i have were paused, saved-loaded, edited or driven with different time scale
also many others state-edited

..black list will be muuuuch longer in a few days

Calm down, don't get paranoid and wait. milagros is exagerating. -Abula

magicman · Post by **magicman** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:05

That's lame if!!!! but I dont think so...

PeXi would have checked taht..maybe?

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:08

magicman wrote:That's lame if!!!! but I dont think so...

PeXi would have checked taht..maybe?

i can prove it
pexi, abula and mgen can do it too now

epp · Post by **epp** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:09

are u sure, milagros?

not to offend u, but maybe u are just being paranoid?
But of course, if it have been edited or anything of those u have mentioned, u can tell if theyre cheaters!

MP · Post by MP » 30 Nov 2002, 22:10

this is too much for me....

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:12

shit, can't believe it!

How can they save-load it?!

epp · Post by **epp** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:12

i dont hope its true... cheating sux

it wouldnt be smart for a guy like mrickx to cheat.
heÂ´s just been caught... maybe again?

magicman · Post by **magicman** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:32

hmm, dunno what to say... hope all cheators will be cought...

but i really hope some1 have cheated..! cus it's really bad style of them if!

Like the "nice-guys" who got to hÃ¶yl like CRASY... and they just save&load it :\

cya tomorrow also? (quite improtant moment ok!)

Post by **SveinR** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:44

If this is true it is very sad for the Elasto Mania world

Jonas · Post by **Jonas** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:50

Just a tought this....why are they both from REM (Nostrada was)?....is there something there maybe....

And Miloagros youÂ´llbe a hero if itÂ´s true

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » 30 Nov 2002, 22:57

Milagros, how many mrickx's recs u have checked btw? I don't think he cheated more than Long Haul, at least I hope so he didn't.

Well, keep up the good work

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 30 Nov 2002, 23:03

milagros: How can you see if the replays is cheated ??

-Kopaka [cEp]

Sick_Mambo · Post by **Sick_Mambo** » 30 Nov 2002, 23:28

Kopaka wrote:milagros: How can you see if the replays is cheated ??

-Kopaka [cEp]

Please dont answer that, as long as you, pexi and Abula knows how to do it its fine, but if you spread the word then someone will find a way to counter your methods.

magicman · Post by **magicman** » 30 Nov 2002, 23:34

hmm that's truee!!!
just give it to Abula/PeXi and shut up about it ,))

have a nice day

chux · Post by **chux** » 1 Dec 2002, 00:56

Craaaaaazy! Jeez id like to know how you found out...
Whats gonna happen to these guys?

dz · Post by dz » 1 Dec 2002, 01:58

well, at least i know im never gonna get caught on cheating ;*****

Post by **Abula** » 1 Dec 2002, 02:21

Calm down, you are just making yourself crazy. It was a mistake to tell here before talking to anticheat group. I have checked about 400 replays and the result is quite interesting. We will inform later. At least one old WR is proven to be cheated for 99.9% sure.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 1 Dec 2002, 02:44

why was it mistake?
they cheated
that's for sure
i've checked hundreds of replays and only all nostrada's and two mrickx's didn't pass the test
and they were so sure that it can't be detected

i'll not tell how it works, it's not damn hard to skip it..only a little

..to prove that they cheated i will make those cheats
as nostrada said....to now the alien you must have an alien

and next i'll do it for multiplaying (test whether those parts were made together and also time detection)

Post by **Abula** » 1 Dec 2002, 02:49

According to your program I'm cheater too. Some of my replays are cheated if your program tells the truth. So it doesn't work correct. But this public talk is over now, milagros, read mails.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 1 Dec 2002, 10:30

Abula wrote:According to your program I'm cheater too. Some of my replays are cheated if your program tells the truth. So it doesn't work correct. But this public talk is over now, milagros, read mails.

you cheater...ban him, abula

chux · Post by **chux** » 1 Dec 2002, 13:37

Damn, looks like the omnipotent Abula is a mere mortal...a cheating one at that...

Post by **Abula** » 1 Dec 2002, 18:35

I don't find this any amusing.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 1 Dec 2002, 20:28

i think there's some pretty phunny sarcasticly black humor behind this

dz · Post by dz » 2 Dec 2002, 00:08

lol eml & nostrada doing it again eh? LMAO
only their recs are detected with new proggy or what
well if it say abu's cheating to.. umm it's kinda crap then
r we gonna have another huuuuge scandal ey ;\

Post by **Abula** » 2 Dec 2002, 03:03

Nothing is proven yet. Calm down and wait.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 2 Dec 2002, 14:05

true. nostra is a nice guy, but if he really repeadetly cheats i don't think he should be let continue driving wrs to the table, cheated or not.

Post by **Abula** » 2 Dec 2002, 15:15

BarTek: your replays seem to be cheated too according to the program.

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 2 Dec 2002, 15:40

hÃ¦hÃ¦ lol, BarTek shhh next time

MP · Post by MP » 2 Dec 2002, 16:46

LOL, this new program rules ...you never know who is the next cheater to get caught, it's randomly chosen

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 2 Dec 2002, 17:05

the bugs are already fixxxed

dz · Post by dz » 2 Dec 2002, 17:11

and now it says pexi cheats! shh

MopoGirl · Post by **MopoGirl** » 2 Dec 2002, 18:16

milagros, what does the program say about YOUR replays?

lol, there are three milgros' at #across right now

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 2 Dec 2002, 22:29

damn he fixed the bugs, now it won't call Abula a cheater anymore

magicman · Post by **magicman** » 3 Dec 2002, 12:28

Tjeinare Bartek

hehe cheater

seems like every1 is a cheat0r

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 3 Dec 2002, 14:25

atleast I think every1 have thinked of cheating...

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 3 Dec 2002, 16:41

i've never. O_O HONESTLY! never thought of cheating. O_Onever!!
please believe me!

MJXII · Post by **MJXII** » 3 Dec 2002, 17:17

It really would be a bit pointless if you cheated. i don't get the whole *cheating* thing

dz · Post by dz » 3 Dec 2002, 17:42

so what's happening here!!!! give us some info got damnet

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 3 Dec 2002, 18:37

nothing special, milagros' prog just said that some dz has cheated....who cares..

MP · Post by MP » 3 Dec 2002, 22:45

Karl I think you missed the newest info, you are the cheater

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 4 Dec 2002, 05:11

it's ok, but now they cought you too

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 4 Dec 2002, 16:09

newest info is top secretz0r

dz · Post by dz » 4 Dec 2002, 16:44

i bet newest info is your little proggy is giving to weird results0r again0r eh

DacBitch · Post by **DacBitch** » 5 Dec 2002, 10:24

MP wrote:LOL, this new program rules ...you never know who is the next cheater to get caught, it's randomly chosen

yeah this time, the winner is....
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Post by **Abula** » 9 Dec 2002, 23:35

MGen aka carc made his program while milagros improved his. They are not 100% ready but some cheats can be detechted for 100% sure. I won't tell which cheats, you know why. From now I can tell only new cheat:

8. Tag, table #084, mrickx [REM] CZE, time 21,64

I'm organizing my WR replay folder and when MGen gets his program ready we can (hopefully) tell all the rest WR cheats. partybear promised to code me a sweet program to regenerate old WR tables and WR statistics so this issue is kind of solved too.

Blacklist will be updated when I've checked all WR replays. Did You cheat? Statedited? Be a man and tell us yourself.

dz · Post by dz » 10 Dec 2002, 02:25

so is moposite going to "fix" old tables or leave all cheated times permanently there?

Post by **Abula** » 10 Dec 2002, 03:59

dz wrote:so is moposite going to "fix" old tables or leave all cheated times permanently there?

Fix, it will be very easy with a new program. Maybe we make a list of cheated WRs somewhere.

Post by **Abula** » 10 Dec 2002, 05:14

I just checked all current WRs for statedit cheat and found six new ones. I ask these guys to mail me personally.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 10 Dec 2002, 05:40

6 O_O?? how is it possible? u sure ur prog works?.. hard to believe that _6_ times there are cheated like that..

Vaitork · Post by **Vaitork** » 10 Dec 2002, 05:45

Sad pathetic people who cheat... yeah, my gameplay suck... but at least i don't cheat

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ok forget it.. i just wanted to write something

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