anti-cheat patch

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 7 Jan 2003, 11:41

i wanted to do anti-cheat patch
i should save also other file than rec
it would be almost impossible to skip/hack/crack

the problem is that all kuski who will want to beat some wr will have to use that patch
so kuskis should write whether it's a good idea or not
i don't want to loose many hours with patching it with no effect
if all kuskis agree i'll try
if not then ok

insane guy · Post by **insane guy** » 7 Jan 2003, 12:56

no problem for me...
i would use if necessary
and not if not

GuyB · Post by **GuyB** » 7 Jan 2003, 12:58

I think that it is an excellent idea ... Only problem that I foresee is if people who donÂ´t have internet( and follow the scene regurlarly ) , send in a rec .. If it is done moposite, and other sites, has to make it known to everyone .. They have to write pertty much stuff about it, so everyone will know what it is, why they have tyo use t ect

GuyB[rdk]

Post by **Abula** » 7 Jan 2003, 13:22

Just a tiny mark to the table if it is driven with or without the patch. All WRs get in but the times with the mark are more reliable.

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » 7 Jan 2003, 13:56

Heah, sounds cool so I'm in ok.

onlainari · Post by **onlainari** » 7 Jan 2003, 14:08

Make it visible ,so contest possessors can stipulate it from the contestants if they are willing into the list. (not only wr-list)

dz · Post by dz » 7 Jan 2003, 14:12

would the patch going to be included in elma.exe?

well one thing it has to do is to be compatible with old replays..

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 7 Jan 2003, 15:03

Count me in.

Antz · Post by **Antz** » 7 Jan 2003, 17:36

imagine some1 saying 'no'. would rais quite much suspicion.. why doesn't he want it?.....

neway i'm in too, although i wont be sending wr recs any time soon..

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 7 Jan 2003, 17:44

hmm it sounds ok, but with all the trouble with the other patches... If someone sends a wr, does it really take that long time to check it for cheat ??? U cant be sure that everyone would use it even though they downloaded it...

Its Ok with me, just suggesting an easier solution... maybe

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 7 Jan 2003, 18:52

It sounds weird, but if it can be for real it could be cool!

So i just agree! And for the cheaters its just

go the hell!

Karlis · Post by **Karlis** » 7 Jan 2003, 19:38

if that patch doesn't include bugs or anything it sounds ok
and it must include 1.11h -> stuff

but is this really needed, is there still cheaters or cheat left that cant be detected?

MagnusB · Post by **MagnusB** » 7 Jan 2003, 19:42

If there isn't now, there probably will be.
And yeah, the patch must contain the 1.11h(b) changes, if not I'm voting no instead.

Ky.Jelly · Post by **Ky.Jelly** » 7 Jan 2003, 20:13

is this just more stuff to put in me elma dir or do we really need,
it sounds like you guys have the cheating stuff pretty much sorted,
its like they say, the more keys you press the more likely you are to make a mistake, not that milagros will make a mistake its just that sometimes games become big enuff as it is,
but yea i would use it, not that im gonna get wr or anything,

please make it small i dont wanna get new hard drive i only have 300mb left on my 60G and i hate having to delete level zips

Cubein · Post by **Cubein** » 7 Jan 2003, 20:36

Not that i am a "WR-driver", but i think it`s a great idea.
Let it be the last day for guys who cheats

Post by **Abula** » 7 Jan 2003, 20:56

Why Balazs didn't code this into the game? Why not, in general, programmers of the games don't include this kind of thing to the game?

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 7 Jan 2003, 22:14

it sounds like a good idea to prevent cheating. not that it would make the cheating go away, but making it harder to cheat. and the players have to agree just like in sports where they have to agree to doping rules. and that's how nostrada was banned, for not passing the cheating tests.

and ab, i guess programmers didnt realize that computer games would become as serious as sports are, but they will probably become safer in the future.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 7 Jan 2003, 22:22

USELESS

No problem for me to use it, BUT if someone that isn't that much active in the scene and doesn't know about the patch makes a WR, wothout cheating he can't get the WR....that's the bad thibg about it.

devin · Post by **devin** » 7 Jan 2003, 22:40

sure no problem for me

Post by **Abula** » 7 Jan 2003, 23:07

Kopaka: very few players get WRs 'out of the scene'. Just look at the table and WR history.

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 8 Jan 2003, 14:12

I know

But so it's only should be in WR were the patch is needed...if so i agreed to use it.

KD · Post by KD » 8 Jan 2003, 15:20

I agree, this idea is really coal. There should be at least 2-3 months before it would be the only format which is accepted, but before this both old and new rec types would be allowed in wrs and contests. (hmm, it was Abu's idea?

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Ragnar · Post by **Ragnar** » 29 Jan 2003, 19:04

I think it is a good idea, but it should only be in WR where it is needed.