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Okay.. who is the best?

Of those who still are active, I have to say Zweq.
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Probably zweq or somesuch nab, yesh.
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Zweq.
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Zweq & John
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From what I've heard TorInge was a great talent aswell, he should probably not be forgotten.

Although it seems Zweq is more all-round imo.
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Zweq is really world class in this game basing not only on the pure skill, but the entire game understanding.
Then if you mention t0ringe you shall not omit Markku, axxu, Luther or MP and mawane.
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abruzzi wrote:Then if you mention t0ringe you shall not omit (...) mawane.
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From what I've heard, TorInge was nothing like Markku, axxu and luther. Zweq told me a little about toringe, and he said he was an amazing talent, who could drive amazing times very fast. He was no real master externalist, like markku and axxu, who thought of sick styles. He simply drove amazing times fast.

Again, this is what I've learnt not observed. And you will also learn when the EMD is released :)
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Toringe drove 13 world records in 17 days jan. 2nd to jan. 19th. half of the table was his world records. i would have to say toringe dominated in his days more than any other kuski has in their day. seeing a table with 13 new world records by one player will never happen again, and he did this at table #232 so no easy feat. toringe is the best ever in my opinion. heard he got a world record in like 15 minutes on new wave i think at some elma meeting. if he had kept with it he would still be the best, not saying zweq is better now than toringe was then, but im not sure if that was the question.
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Cfilorvy wrote:Okay.. who is the best?

Of those who still are active, I have to say Zweq.
Ye, I agree.. Of all players I have to say t0r. He was amazing.
MP too.. pwning in both world cup 4 and 5.
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In my opinion, who is the best is hard to decide. If i go back when i started playing, the ones i clearly looked up to were BarTeK, MP, Luther, axxu, Jeppe, TorInge, Zweq, Darmoed (not anymore). Then, as time went by, i would have to add Raven, Xiphias, Bjorn, Kazan and John.

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I think some good candidates for the best players ever would be TorInge, Zweq, MP, John and Axxu.

TorInge: Read my post above
Zweq: An amazing all around player who is not frightened by hard tricks; he sees them as a fun challenge which is a feature I absolutely love about him. Whenever I see a trick that looks impsy I think: "give Zweq a few days and he'll do it". He also completely dominate battles. Even when other pros are playing, he's dominating, which is why I won't add Markku, Raven etc. as candidates.
MP: Won two WOLRDCUPs in a row. If anything, shouldn't that make you the WORLD's best player :P? That's pretty much all I know of his skills.
John: Well, he's only an internalist, I've never seen him playing a cup of participating in any external contest. Which is a real shame, because it makes me wanna not put him as a candidate :(. Nontheless, he is the first to break 36 mins limit and him, zweq and toringe are the three mainpoles in the internal scene I think.
Axxu: His ability to find cool and innovative styles makes him a very dangerous foe in cups. He seem to win every cup he put his back into. I think jaytea is Axxu's equal actually. A very innovative guy.

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the only guy who can drive two legendary styles in one table. for me Zweq's the man.
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we should have a wrcup6, the winner wins elma
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mp has a tattoo of this happy star from mario =D

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TorInge for ever.
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I guess I said this before. But:

Zweq is undoubtly the best player ever.
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ramone had spoken
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The first-try-finishes zweq does, is what the second place-time after the whole battle becomes.
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or first
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Zweq.
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Pawq wrote:or first
So Zweq loses to his own time? ok.
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FinMan wrote:crap
ur cat wrote this? u lack of logic kiddo
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FinMan wrote:
Pawq wrote:or first
So Zweq loses to his own time? ok.

Lol?
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EDIT: Lol, I explained FM's post in relation to Pola's, but then understood Pawq's post.

ont: For the sake of not wanting to pick out the best kuski out of many brilliant ones, my vote goes to BQchk18684.
then again i don't know anything
maybe easier not to think abouut alöl things thought than not things thought ... or something..=?
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:D cool. I was one heck of tired when wrote that fyi. Maybe thats why I read wrong it, but nm, you are right, i fail once again. :o
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FinMan wrote::D cool. I was one heck of tired when wrote that fyi. Maybe thats why I read wrong it, but nm, you are right, i fail once again. :o
I understood your misunderstanding. ;)
then again i don't know anything
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I must tell you a story about when I met ramone earlier this year. When he was talking about elma I realized there is so much more to know about it than I did. In fact I could even start an elma experts thread, but I don't know enough about it to participate.

Why I say this is because there are reasons for why ramone think zweq is best. I could tell you reasons for why I admire TorInge's skills, or MP. I think their names could be mentioned here. Markku was amazing many many years ago, before zweq was even born. At those times people like psy, jeppe, zyntifox were very admired, and zeth and dr luni were the best ever legends. But hear me, ramone is like an expert in knowing about elma. Not only does he knows the advanced tricks of making (advanced) grass (not normal grass) or v-sync tuning (like probably many of you guys do).

Ramone for example writes down the battle time of his levels, so he later can check the replays and say how well performed they are for such a battle. Maybe i'm such a novice player that others of you can do that too, I dunno. Ramone also is very serious about his battle levels. He makes sure to spy on the players and he has spied zweq on so many battles. How he describes zweq in a battle is that he finishes the level once, then for the rest of the battle tries crazy styles, and when there is one minute left he just makes one more ride and wins.

Dunno how much it came across here, but it's a bit of a pity why ramone doesn't show his knowledge and reasons for his opinion. He also said that TorInge is amazing in making times, but not as eager to find styles as Zweq. Anyway, most ppls opinions here are probably noob, which is why ramone should say his word. He is a true elma connoscieur as if elma is his real hobby and he knows it.


some commments:
- BarTek wasn't even a pro, come on!
- As Darmoed was mentioned, he could be a definite candidate, but he was cheating anyway. His real skills were good but nothing to mention here.
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Zweq sucks the dicks at battling? Yes. Almost as awful as jaytea.
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At pipes? Adi, Kazan
Also special mention to: tallimon, Koopa, Finman, Madn... no wait this guy is good at everything :lmao:
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NoZKeY wrote:At pipes? Adi, Kazan
Also special mention to: tallimon, Koopa, Finman, Madn... no wait this guy is good at everything :lmao:
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Igge wrote:
NoZKeY wrote:At pipes? Adi, Kazan
Also special mention to: tallimon, Koopa, Finman, Madn... no wait this guy is good at everything :lmao:
John? Jalli?
I have never seen John playing.
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ya, he should really come on belma more often. would be sweet to see zweq and john battle it out on different levels. Give zweq a bit of a challange. I saw Tor online a while back but not sure if that was him or not.
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Memphis wrote:ya, he should really come on belma more often. would be sweet to see zweq and john battle it out on different levels. Give zweq a bit of a challange. I saw Tor online a while back but not sure if that was him or not.
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Igge wrote:
NoZKeY wrote:At pipes? Adi, Kazan
Also special mention to: tallimon, Koopa, Finman, Madn... no wait this guy is good at everything :lmao:
John? Jalli?
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i would like to see jalli and john in action
only saw 2 abulas pipe rec and one random pipe at bjorns movie from john
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Some John recs in the Skintatious movie I guess.
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zweq currently has the best internal TT, most WRs on table, most GAA's by a landslide, and is ranked number 1 on eol. seems like he is doing the best at the most important things in elma, maybe could be number 1 on kopasite or have done better in some WC's back in the day but thats about it. before in this thread i said toringe cause he was sick at constantly getting wrs but now im not so sure, zweq just has too much to show for himself.
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Zweq is the best
Markku is the coolest
John makes the most wtfest recs
grob is the most surprising
Kazan is the most easygoing
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I made similar topic once World Top10 kuski list
Anyway Zweq is the best =)
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jeppe ftw! : D
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i'd say Kazan. you can compare proest players with him in every type of levs. normal, PIPE, uphill, hoyl, analx and such.
most of ppl say zweq but cmon. if you compare Zweq and Kazan for example in pipes. just not work ;)
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but i still love you zamppe))
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lol zweq owns kazan in pies by FAR D: he just doesn't play them recently ;/
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ez Zweq cuz of being involved in infinite #across and Elma affairs, unreachable driving and tricks doing experience, flawless attitude to the scene, being able to produce both wise and shockingly funny elma-concerning statement at any time, extreme understanding of the game, pulling off undoubtedly the greatest internal shock of all times when 07 and 24 WRs stood, not to mention the skill (especially random-level-skill where he can use seemingly useless vertes/polygon to achieve bizzare profits)
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abruzzi wrote:Zweq (...) random-level-skill where he can use seemingly useless vertes/polygon to achieve bizzare profit)
yes, i'd like to remind this to some ppl:

http://up.k10x.net/qvmrmbusznqkl/sahtia04_197Zwe.rec

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oh my god zweq rapped that square hard! zweq best ever then.
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berho tongue brown much lately? :P and pawq what you said about pipes just never worked in elma it's like saying ez 30 wrs if just orka play, it doesn't matter how good you were or could be
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well, when you actually do play you rapp everyone else :l including kazen
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too many sick kuskis these days, impsy to pick up only one. Let's calculate the one who is closest to being the perfect kuski. That is, best in everything related to playing the game. We have:
best levmaker: ramone
best stylefinder: ramone
best battle commentator: ramone
best bike control: zweq
Thus, the ideal kuski is 3/4 ramone and only 1/4 zweq. Now it's easy to see that ramone is the closest to being a perfect kuski, so he must be the best.
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