Golden Apple Awards 2011

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 6 Dec 2011, 18:49

ZeroNSB wrote:lukazz it cant be your fault :D you are best player in BAP probably. or kiiwi duno

luki vs. kiwi a dilemma? watefa!

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 6 Dec 2011, 19:01

Madness wrote:
CuLiNo wrote:i know the style is megahard, but anp did 1:09 with SL so it's improvable i guess:) but it's nice wr ofc
Mila did 40,75 in Serpents with SL. Does it imply that Zweq's time there is very improvable ?

mila has not only sl. there is maybe serp with bounces like in downhill or that crap in tricks, you'll never know

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 6 Dec 2011, 21:05

The fact is that you can't judge Kazan's time compared to Anpdad's 1:09 route at all, since it isn't doable without SL even in a million years. Just like mila's Serpents.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 6 Dec 2011, 21:08

nabs
1.09 ah much easier than 40.xx serp

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 7 Dec 2011, 01:33

Madness wrote:The fact is that you can't judge Kazan's time compared to Anpdad's 1:09 route at all, since it isn't doable without SL even in a million years. Just like mila's Serpents.

in a million years? i know we won't see 1:0x in ah anytime soon, but i guess it's doable. you just need a perfect clean ride, but i can be wrong since anp's rec is not public and there may be some new tricky stuff. imho the power between mila's tools and regular sl is huge.

Madness · Post by **Madness** » 7 Dec 2011, 02:06

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 7 Dec 2011, 04:13

now THAT is sick! for me it's like the best style in elma ever found (yes mila, even better than curva:D). i wonder if mila used the same route:)

and you're right, this very same style is not doable without sl. but one day, maybe spef will surprise us

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 7 Dec 2011, 15:10

1.09 ah = best saveload style?
try to pick some for example serp time form my table and try to draw a route that could theoretically achieve it
then pick some other pro time and try to do the same..

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 7 Dec 2011, 15:14

there are 9000 styles for that, just milabounce everywhere and you're settled.
boring.

Kazan · Post by **Kazan** » 7 Dec 2011, 15:14

i can draw route for 33,40 bounce back))

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 7 Dec 2011, 15:17

Lukazz wrote:
Lousku wrote:
Kiiwi wrote: - Team
BAP (filled with amateur-level players and still floating 2nd in eol points)
I think points just accumulate. We're second because there's many of us, but look at relative and we're not even in top25. xddd
cause i always enter battles, play one try and then alt+tab and become last with 0 apples. sorry guys.

9/10 balles I do this too.

jblaze can draw 16 route for tag. :)

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 7 Dec 2011, 16:37

anpdad wrote:there are 9000 styles for that, just milabounce everywhere and you're settled.
boring.

everywhere = where?

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 7 Dec 2011, 16:40

every.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 7 Dec 2011, 16:55

lukazz you probably beat me in relative, i suck too. i might be like 30th

Jarkko · Post by **Jarkko** » 7 Dec 2011, 17:00

Isn't Kazans AH just basic style, but bounce from the wall and very fast that hard triangle thing. At least thats what I saw when he was playing.

Thundr- · Post by **Thundr-** » 7 Dec 2011, 17:58

Jarkko wrote:Isn't Kazans AH just basic style, but bounce from the wall and very fast that hard triangle thing. At least thats what I saw when he was playing.

i think yes. he also upped a failrec of that style where he missed one apple somewhere and was leading john with over 1s before reaching that triangle

Lukazz · Post by **Lukazz** » 7 Dec 2011, 20:39

ZeroNSB wrote:lukazz you probably beat me in relative, i suck too. i might be like 30th

what the hell are you talking about? you're ranked 3rd and i'm not even top 100.

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 7 Dec 2011, 20:48

By the way, that Relative ranking is really weird. I'm 35th in the main ranking, which is surprising considering the amount of battles I play, and somewhere around 80th in the Relative ranking, even though I play almost only pipes where I'm usually 1st-3rd oO And no, I don't enter every battle not playing it later on :/

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 7 Dec 2011, 22:27

Pawq wrote:I play almost only pipes where I'm usually 1st

LöL

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 7 Dec 2011, 23:17

Zweq · Post by **Zweq** » 7 Dec 2011, 23:54

gaa png igge

pawq · Post by **pawq** » 8 Dec 2011, 00:05

+1

what would lauta be without igge <3

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 8 Dec 2011, 18:30

Internalist: zweq, kazan <- zweq always been best and has insane skills, kazan only one ever gotten close, how close, allready better?
Externalist: zweq <- zweq is master of styles
Battler: zweq, kazan, madness, adi, Zero, Markku <- all for obv reasons, there are more and was hard to pick. Zero very fun to play and use totally different playing pattern than all others and thats interesting, using different moves always in ways totally unlogical to me, still wins. zweq always finding sick styles, kazan mad skills and dont fuckup, madness playing raw with anger and I love that, adi great mind for styles and dont try too hard styles in shorter battles, good tactics, Markku, riding basic great and still sick at same time, he use dif strategy in dif levels or dif days, never know what you will see.
Rookie: ? <- I dont know the rookies
Designer: TL, jonsta, Zero <- I hated TLs levels at first but they really grew on me and they improved alot, I love the rawness and some levels are mindblowing, jonsta best levmaker ever without a doubt, too bad he doesnt make many, Zero is guy who is really trying to be innovative and also has great eye for playability and can make levels any style he wants, as soon as he stops to care about what others think of his levels he will rise to stand as #1!
Team: TAP <- such pro levmaking team under the leas of zebra and also Zero, jonsta, umiz and me making good levels too, alot of EOL activity
WR: Tunnel Terror by Kazan <- I cant imagine this
Style: Im sure there are many but I dont know them
Replay: Two026 winrec by zweq http://up.k10x.net/ohwnckhdzgomd/Two026_219zwe.rec <- just sick sick to find that style, and execute it in battle
Level: MC303 <- Such awesome result in this lev, top6 all used dif route and its compact u min lev
Contest: MC3 <- Just so damn good levels by best team
Contribution: EOL, mila and zworqy <- even though server sucks I wouldnt be able to play without it, also without EOL I wouldnt play either.
Achievement: 39 min 1h tt by Kazan <- that is same tt I made ober 12 years of elma.
Site: zworqy upload. <- this is great for scene, we use it all the time and its like its a part of elma
Art: A Girl Named Elma by gimp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60JScq8mneY <- the text is just so awesome and its a great song

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 8 Dec 2011, 19:02

Internalist: Kazan, Zweq, Spef
Externalist: Jeppe
Battler: Zero, Luther
Rookie: Spef, stefankivb
Designer: TL, Ramone
Team: SPEED
WR: Kazan´s Tunnel Terror 50,24
Style: Apple Harvest
Replay: Ded´s Flat track 14,88
Level: FUmad722, Smibu80
Contest: Culino´s internal challenges v2
Contribution: Smibu´s SL
Achievement: Spef u40 tt in half a year
Site: EOL site
Art: gimps song: Girl named Elma
Community Award: milagros and Kopaka for maintaining EOL

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 8 Dec 2011, 20:39

Dame, only Björn has suggested Jeppe for designer. Jeppe for designer. :)

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 9 Dec 2011, 13:17

anyone has teh same problem as i have? i cant get to the zworqy upload files list... it s kinda forbidden or sumthing

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 9 Dec 2011, 13:40

Tigro wrote:anyone has teh same problem as i have? i cant get to the zworqy upload files list... it s kinda forbidden or sumthing

wrong topic, but fixed

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 10 Dec 2011, 12:52

zworqy wrote:wrong topic

i know

i wanted to add one rec to my suggestion, and realised that. Thx for fix.

Ramone · Post by **Ramone** » 10 Dec 2011, 13:27

Battler: zweq, kazan, madness, adi, Zero, Markku and I forgot GRob

Kestas · Post by **Kestas** » 12 Dec 2011, 05:24

- Internalist - kazan
- Externalist - jeppe
- Battler - #1 kazan, then kuper, madness, pab, zero, grob
- Rookie - spef??? is he playing elma like 3 months? wth people... i'll go for sic
- Designer - tl, ramone, jeppe
- Team - dont care
- WR - dont care, any kazan ones
- Style - dont care, any kazan ones
- Replay - dont care, any kazan ones
- Level - ? too many good to name
- Contest - dont care
- Contribution - tl for keeping kuskis happy.. quenching thirst for battles 24/7
- Achievement - kazan kicking zweq ass constantly
- Site - dont care
- Art - dont care
- Community Award - Orcc - the wiseman of elma 2011

Lousku · Post by **Lousku** » 12 Dec 2011, 06:41

Kestas wrote:- Rookie - spef??? is he playing elma like 3 months? wth people... i'll go for sic

SveinR wrote:In the Rookie category, the definition is: A Rookie is defined as someone who entered the scene in the GAA period, or up to 3 months prior.

That means you can be in the online scene for 15 months and still be eligible for the rookie award. Spef has been in the scene for about 6 months, so he's definitely eligible.

Also, edited my first post. Notice Jui's awsom songy. =D

Post by **SveinR** » 13 Dec 2011, 21:11

Note: You have only 5 days left to make your suggestions!

Mielz · Post by **Mielz** » 14 Dec 2011, 12:54

- Internalist
Kazan
Zweq
Madness
Spef
Grob

- Battler
Kazan
Zweq
Grob
Pab
Madness

- Rookie
Spef

- Designer
Pab
Ramone
Bludek

- Team
SPEED
BAP

- WR
02 Ded
04 Zweq
07 Kazan
09 Kazan
15 Zweq
35 Kazan
40 Kazan
54 Kazan

- Style
Zweq spinsteppes
anp's sl'ed AH

- Replay
Zweq spinsteppes
02Ded1488
07K2721
24GRob
MC302Kuper

- Level
MC302
MC306

- Contest
Master Cup 3

- Achievement
Kazan - 39tt in 1htt
Spef - making WRs and overall proness, being a rookie

culinko · Post by **culinko** » 14 Dec 2011, 13:23

- Internalist: Zweq, Kazan, Madness, Bjorn
- Rookie: Spef
- Team: SPEED
- WR: oau: 28,95 by Zweq; tunnel: 50,24 by Kazan; serp: 48,82 by Zweq; ah: 1:12,89 by Kazan
- Style: anpdad's apple harvest, Kazan's jaws
- Contribution: mila, for 32 tt project
- Achievement: Spef, getting 2 WRs (both unofficial yet) in such short time
- Site: lauta=)
- Art: aspec's elma videos
- Community Award: Pab, for having fun with my challenges:P

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 14 Dec 2011, 13:28

CuLiNo wrote:- Style: Kazan's jaws

Ehm, what style?

Jarkko · Post by **Jarkko** » 14 Dec 2011, 14:04

- Internalist: Kazan
- Rookie: Spef
- Team: Team none (Kazan)

- WR: Over and Under 28,95; Tunnel Terror 50,24; Serpents Tale 48,82
- Achievement: Kazan for taking over the WR table and doing crazy WRs. Spef for becoming world class player (with 2 unofficial WRs) in very short time.
- Site: Kopasite

Thundr- · Post by **Thundr-** » 14 Dec 2011, 14:06

Björn wrote:
CuLiNo wrote:- Style: Kazan's jaws
Ehm, what style?

Perhaps refering to the saveloaded rec with them bounces at the right side of lev

Tigro · Post by **Tigro** » 14 Dec 2011, 15:52

CuLiNo wrote:- Community Award: Pab, for having fun with my challenges:P

LOL, i want community award too!

Bjenn · Post by **Bjenn** » 14 Dec 2011, 16:29

Thundr- wrote:
Björn wrote:
CuLiNo wrote:- Style: Kazan's jaws
Ehm, what style?
Perhaps refering to the saveloaded rec with them bounces at the right side of lev

FinMan (ruottikou) is the one who actually invented teh bounce at roof I herd.

anpdad · Post by **anpdad** » 14 Dec 2011, 17:13

FinMan (ruottikou) is the one who actually invented teh bounce at roof I herd.

it's pronounced "hoard"!

Internalist: Kazan
Style: romy4's haircut, also is downhill eligible?
Battler: jblaze
Rookie: Spef
Team: SPEED
WR: kazan's 1:12 ah, zweq's serpents
Designer: TL. Vast amount of best levs ever, diverse and pleasing in many ways for battling, cruising, hoyling and saveload driving.
Achievement: Some dude for being SuPErFast in becoming a propro

Zero · Post by **Zero** » 14 Dec 2011, 19:54

Kazan wasn't hidden when he played 37. But dunno was he hidden when he did WR.

roope · Post by **roope** » 14 Dec 2011, 19:55

- Designer
CommonSeb, TL, Koopa

- Team
BAP, MiE

- Contribution
TL for endless levels

- Community Award
igge for being igge, Lousku for best humor in eol

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 14 Dec 2011, 20:47

gaa: roope for being frien

also for elastorap

BlaZtek · Post by **BlaZtek** » 15 Dec 2011, 01:53

Internalist
Kazan, Zweq and Spef

Externalist
Jeppe, Adebis, Adi, BlaZtek and Alma

Battler
Markku, Kuper, Adi, Zero and Pab

Rookie
Spef

Designer
Umiz, bEAT, TL, Juish, Bludek and ScHuMaChEr

Team
TAP, SPEED and 27

WR
Int09 by Kazan, Int15 by Zweq and Int54 by Kazan

Style
Zweq spinning Int10

Replay
Dont know

Level
JS12 by ScHuMaChEr
MpqPi34 by MPQ

Contest
SL, Redesign and Master cup

Contribution
Dont know

Achievement
1 hour TT under 40 by Kazan, 38.xx TT in 6 months by rookie Spef

Site
Kopasite <3 With the best ppl and many different cool packs!

Art
Umiz and Unkown's funny faces in pylogons!

Community Award
Dont know

mr.potato · Post by **mr.potato** » 16 Dec 2011, 16:17

- Internalist
- Externalist
jeppe for going on vsk rampage
markku for making sick times fast everywhere

- Battler
markku same as above
kazan same
nobody same, but only if motivated it seems
eddi constantly winning battles very often lately

- Rookie
spef yeah, hail dem

- Designer
error the only designer along igge and vj, whose levs are so much fun to ride, styles and flow everywhere, even when u die
ville_j similar criteria like error, just levs are a bit harder to figure out, and have more visual aesthetic
zero make very cool and unique levs, actual design aspect also very good, not like tl 10sec made looking crap
pab very flowish and good looking levs, nice ideas like in zero levs
mpq very very nice designed levs, lots of styles even in small levs
umiz for his sick cool and strange visuals in levs, also very flowish often
---
*note1* didn't mention igge, cause i didn't play any lev from him this year :(
*note2* actually noone should be nominated here who is not able to really design levs, those who just throw out a bunch of fast made levs without any aesthetic looking are not worth mentioning here imho

- Team
bap cause they love everyone and be loved by everyone

- WR
- Style
tunnel terror dunno who made
apple harvest dunno who made nor if published

- Replay
- Level
- Contest
redesign cup coolest idea since bananacup is over
kachi pack very sick and hard levpack, varying in every aspect, cause 2 ppl made it. unfortunately noone is playing it, cause too hard it seems.

- Contribution
tl for providing a never dwindling source of balle levs

- Achievement
- Site
- Art
ville_j levs his visual style in levs is so unique and breathtaking simple, every lev is a state of art

- Community Award
lousku most chilled player, person, sheephunter, god of the universe. anyone can talk about everything without getting bored or annoyed.

zebra · Post by **zebra** » 16 Dec 2011, 22:34

Here are my suggestions. I have not been too active recently but I have still followed the scene and mopolauta a bit so that I can make some suggestions:

- Internalist: Kazan: I thought it would be impossible to beat Zweq but Kazan proved me wrong
- Externalist: adi: won Mastercup 3 overwhelmingly
- Battler: Zero: great improvement in battling skills this year
- Designer: Ramone and Zero (I have to support my team mates

)
- Rookie: I think Spef deserves this golden apple.
- Style: new Apple harvest style
- Replay: it has to be some saveloaded rec. Anyway you can't detect saveload, can you?
- Level:
* I always appreciate when people make giant ff levels. Not that they would be ideal for battle, but the amount of work needed for them is huge. For example cp066ff.lev.
* Of mastercup3 levs I have to agree with Ramone that MC303.lev was maybe the best, because the top 3 were with different styles. That's not so ordinary in cup levels

- Contest:
* Mastercup 3, even if I'm saying this myself

We managed to get it together after 5 years (Mastercup 2 was in 2006 and everybody was asking when the 3rd one would be). 12 great levels from great designers. And we managed to arrange it just before saveload patch was leaked. It would be impossible to arrange it anymore (offline).
* EOL levelpack. Nice to see that it's finally ready.
- Contribution: SveinR: making this GAA now for, is it 9th time? I know nowadays some other game scenes too and this GAA system is unique in the games I have seen. It's great to see that SveinR is still interested in making all this. It requires some hard work

- (questionable) Achievement: Smibu's saveload patch
- Site:
* http://elmaonline.net
* http://mc3.sshoyer.net/

- Art:
* EOL trailer
- Community Award:
* Zweq: nice professional comments everywhere on mopolauta and also good internalist/battler/etc (you know).
* Kopaka: always there helping you with EOL and developing the EOL site

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 17 Dec 2011, 19:55

Internalist: Kazan, no contest
Externalist: Jeppe, no contest
Battler: Zweq absolutely, and maybe Markku, Kazan, GRob, Pab.. and gotta note that Zero and Eddi have improved a lot.
Rookie: Spef, absolutely no contest
Designer: umiz makes the most fun balle levs lately, imo. Follow by igge who should be fucking more active and Jeppe
Team: they hardly matter anymore, gone are the days of secret style sharing and cooperation and friendly internal rivalry within teams. But I'll nominate SPEED.
WR: 09. Kazan, 15. Zweq
Style: Zweqspin Steppes
Achievement: Kazan 39 TT in 1 hour TT, absolutely insane. Spef's 2 WRs (more to come?) and 38 TT within his first half year of playing.
Site: EOL site
Art: gimp - A Girl Named Elma
Community award: chris- for hisaying

Igge · Post by **Igge** » 17 Dec 2011, 19:57

no need to nominate me. i have already lost several gaas, no need to lose another one))

zaraptor · Post by **zaraptor** » 17 Dec 2011, 21:38

- Externalist
Markku

- Battler
Kazan, Zweq, Pab, GRob, FinMan

- Rookie
Spef
Zero if category was improvement

- Designer
mawane, Dreamhunter, Jeppe, niN

- WR
04 Zweq 28.95
09 Zweq 51.88
09 Kazan 50.24
30 Tm 32.80
54 Kazan 1:12.89

- Style
Zweq spinning
apple harvest by someones
Milty serpents

- Contest
EOL levels
Redesign cup

- Contribution
Xarthok eol video

- Achievement
32TT milagros

- Site
elma.oktobia.org
mopolaluta
elmastats
kopasite

- Art
lgge

Juish · Post by **Juish** » 18 Dec 2011, 00:46

Internalist
Kazan

Externalist
Adi

Battler
Markku, adi, madness, zero and Pab

Rookie
-

Designer
Gotta say TL on the basis of reliability that the queue will always be full during un-peak times of day

and i mostly play during un peak times.
uncle milty got some design skills as well as umiz and pab

Team
-

WR
09,35,54 by Kazan, 15 by zweq, 02 by ded

Style
spin style in level 10

Replay
too many cheated recs circulating

Level
-

Contest
-

Contribution
Px - bringin back regular wr updates

Achievement
GRob for completing rando069,he makes it look easier than it really is

Rando069.lev: (3.07 KiB) Downloaded 198 times

rando69GRob.rec: (16.15 KiB) Downloaded 169 times

Site
up.k10x.net

Art
my rap, right past me

Community Award
death or dead something for making everyone in the elma scene feel better about themselves. haha