your religion

Pertti · Post by **Pertti** » 3 Dec 2004, 14:35

so, whats your religion?

im atheist.

MJXII · Post by **MJXII** » 3 Dec 2004, 14:40

I have none.

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 3 Dec 2004, 14:44

I have my own religion and I have never shared it to anyone but I have shared to many people that I have my own religion. I just didn't like Christianity, so many problems with it. I started writing down my beliefs one day, but then realised I didn't need to.

Napoleon · Post by **Napoleon** » 3 Dec 2004, 14:58

perfect steve have his own little perfect religion, how sweet isnt that :'))
well, i dont believe in teh bibel or jesus or watefack teh crist
but im still crist, coz of something with teh church, i nat care o_O

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 3 Dec 2004, 15:00

ez teh atheist me too. But I whane believe in Tor, The god of Thunder

Rez · Post by **Rez** » 3 Dec 2004, 15:16

i am christ, too. But i wanna become Hindu

epp · Post by **epp** » 3 Dec 2004, 16:13

i was confirmated (watefak english word is) to confirm my belief in christ, but thats just tradition to do and just for presnts ;X
i dont believe in it :\ religon is for the weak-minded and ppl who dont know how to act by themselves

Luther · Post by **Luther** » 3 Dec 2004, 16:26

I would love more than anything to be able to find comfort and believe in a specific religion. I envy those who can.

Religion is not for the weak minded eppej - the weak minded are the ones who haven't found their comfort yet ;X

Kopaka · Post by **Kopaka** » 3 Dec 2004, 16:32

I'm elmathiest o.O

Post by **SveinR** » 3 Dec 2004, 18:25

eppeJ wrote:i was confirmated (watefak english word is) to confirm my belief in christ, but thats just tradition to do and just for presnts ;X
i dont believe in it :\ religon is for the weak-minded and ppl who dont know how to act by themselves

imo it's more weak-minded and insecure to continue staying in a religion, going through with the confirmation just for presents, than believeing in the religion itself. I did it myself back then, had the confirmation, for the sake of not getting on wrong foot with the entire mom side of the family, and I don't like myself for it. I feel like i let myself down.

Agnostic would be the best suitable description for myself, to go back to the initial post.

and http://www.moposite.com/mopolauta/viewtopic.php?t=1277

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 3 Dec 2004, 19:28

i was just surfing another forum and i've snatched this guys sig.

'Religion is flawed only because man is flawed. Faith ... all faiths ... are admonitions that there is something we cannot understand, something to which we are accountable ... With faith we are accountable to to each other, ourselves and to a higher truth.'

he prolly stole it from somewhere else anyway. it basically says religion is our excuse to make things make sense and to have accountability for our actions, ie guilt if we do something wrong.

zworqy · Post by **zworqy** » 3 Dec 2004, 22:24

I'm nat very religious, computer nerds are science dudes. My great uncle is a priest, though

epp · Post by **epp** » 4 Dec 2004, 02:18

but religion is like choosing predefined guidelines on how to live - nat all cases though, liek you dont hev to follow it liek a slave

Post by **SveinR** » 4 Dec 2004, 02:27

eppeJ wrote:but religion is like choosing predefined guidelines on how to live - nat all cases though, liek you dont hev to follow it liek a slave

I agree, organized religion isn't good.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 4 Dec 2004, 03:13

everybody should make their own religion. it doesn't matter if you don't believe in something you don't understand, but make sure you do what you need in life, and that you know why you do what you do.

Revolt · Post by **Revolt** » 4 Dec 2004, 12:12

i always grew up as a christian

Memphis · Post by **Memphis** » 4 Dec 2004, 18:31

Christian here too. And Psteve i think u may have misunderstood that quote.

John · Post by **John** » 5 Dec 2004, 03:19

I dont believe in god but I cant say Im totally atheist either.
Buddhism fascinates me btw.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 5 Dec 2004, 17:45

I don't have a religion, and I don't believe in any gods. I do believe in the positive and negative effects religions can have.

jonsi · Post by **jonsi** » 5 Dec 2004, 19:24

I have a religion.
IÂ´m a Jehowas Wittnes. I think that god has created us all after studied the bible very carefully and convinced myself about that.
If u belive in something I think u should convince yourself about that u belive in so u can defend yourself and feel convinced.

StingZor! · Post by **StingZor!** » 6 Dec 2004, 12:07

I hate religion..

alietje · Post by **alietje** » 15 Jan 2005, 20:48

I'm an atheist... I think most relegions are much too conservative, and I don't like that. but feel free to believe what you want!

8-ball · Post by **8-ball** » 15 Jan 2005, 20:51

I believe in Matrix. Really.

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 16 Jan 2005, 01:54

I decided to get converted to elmatheist.

Crypt · Post by **Crypt** » 16 Jan 2005, 06:19

Im Jewish

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 16 Jan 2005, 14:43

bart is sach smart! ez go spray "naive babies!" on closest chruch now!

bob · Post by **bob** » 17 Jan 2005, 02:44

anyone who believes in any religion i believe is gullable, and that is all. Parents automatically put you apart of something you know nothing about at birth.

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 17 Jan 2005, 03:40

ironically that's as stupid as believing in religion. i dont see what's wrong with believing in religion and u shouldnt tell people they shouldnt believe in religion. leave religious people alone. (i hev 0wn religion wiv all teh mongo parts taken out)

petsen · Post by **petsen** » 17 Jan 2005, 17:19

i think common sence should tell a person that there arent any gods and that we are alone.

Im agnostic btw, so i dont deny that something COULD be out there but my logic tells me there isnt.

Wezz · Post by **Wezz** » 17 Jan 2005, 18:06

....I have the completely same feeling.....

SpeaK · Post by **SpeaK** » 18 Jan 2005, 00:50

Can't argue about a thing of believing. I don't believe in any form of god nor in anything spiritual.

Luther you right, it'd be great to believe in something like god. Would be nice to have a god you can talk about things to.

Somehow it still pisses me off when i hear people saying "zomg, i don't believe in some big bang theory, what bullshit, so god must exist you noob" or "human delevoped from apes? plz hey isn't more logical that god just created people?" Or, my favorite: "you cannot prove god doesn't exist".
And as my friend made a good point, no one can prove little blue goblins don't live under your bed.

It doesn't of course piss me of if people just say they can feel gods presence, or something like that, but it's just annyoing when some people haven't really even thought about it that much, and just believe in what they are raised to believe.

Of course this all shouldn't get on my nerves at all, but it still does.

jonsi · Post by **jonsi** » 18 Jan 2005, 21:19

i think that it isnÂ´t right to dissmiss the thought of a god right away.
first of all sience canÂ´t explain everything, and i know u will say "yea not now but later when sience devlopes", but can it do it even then I wonder?

then think of the possibillity that so advanced beeings like wer humans could have devloped from nothing, which this thingie is really about, not if humans devloped from apes or not. somebody said that it is common sense to not belive in god. how is it more "common sense" to belive that all life came from nowhere?

Many scientists belive in fact in some sort of higher power, call it what ever u want. they start to belive it when they see that everything is in so good order and it is so advanced that they think that it canÂ´t be possible for life to devlope from dead matter.

And one thing more about science. even if u belive in big bang it has to prove that there is no god. think of what there was before. explain that with physics,. i think that it is just as possible that that supernatural power we call god aswell could started big bang that if it started by itself.

enough about science for now.
I think that if u belive in god and feel satisfied and know that u have a porpouse with life u can feel much more secure and satisfied with everything u do.
U dont have to be afraid of death and feel bad because u dont know what to do with your very short and hard life.

this is some of the reasons why i belive in god

teajay · Post by **teajay** » 18 Jan 2005, 21:31

I'm not afraid of dead, although I don't believe in god. Is that an option too?

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 19 Jan 2005, 11:53

jonsi wrote:how is it more "common sense" to belive that all life came from nowhere?

life ez come from chemical reactions in water in primeval earth, where the main catalyst was U.V light. of course ozone layer developed later and now these reactions dont occur. ez proven already too.

jonsi wrote:and one thing more about science. even if u belive in big bang it has to prove that there is no god. think of what there was before. explain that with physics

not explained with physics but mathematics. string theory explains that these 'membranes' exist and when they collide a massive amount of energy is created, not from nowhere, but from their collision it is released, which is the start of a big bang. the rest is easily already explained by physics and widely accepted. these membranes can collide more than once. there might be a god that controls these membranes.

personally i dont think god should be looked to as an answer for our creation. god is there because believing in an important part of humanity.

ribot · Post by **ribot** » 19 Jan 2005, 15:36

to say that science can explain everything is kind of like saying that christianity can. today ppl are as heavy believers as they have been for thousands of years.

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 19 Jan 2005, 17:19

ribot wrote:to say that science can explain everything is kind of like saying that christianity can. today ppl are as heavy believers as they have been for thousands of years.

i never said science can explain everything and also btw the start of the big bang is explained in string theory which is mathematics so i dont know why u say this after i just corrected a few things jonsi said.

Juski · Post by **Juski** » 19 Jan 2005, 18:50

The start of big bang have NOT been explained, the natural laws become mysterical when they reach like 0.000001(don't know the exact number of zeros) after big bang happened.

jonsi · Post by **jonsi** » 19 Jan 2005, 20:36

psteve wrote:
jonsi wrote:how is it more "common sense" to belive that all life came from nowhere?
life ez come from chemical reactions in water in primeval earth, where the main catalyst was U.V light. of course ozone layer developed later and now these reactions dont occur. ez proven already too.

it is only proven that some of the things that is necesary for life can be created.
and when this experiment (known as Millers Experiment, took place 1951) took place it was in a enviroment that was controlled by the scientist.
And when a few of the aminoacids necessary for life was created, the scientst protected them from the lightnings which created the aminoacids so the new fragile acids wouldnÂ´t be destroyed by it what created them.
and even if it would be possible to create all necessary things to life, how would they just pop together? especially complex life not just a few strings together which didnÂ´t even furfill the expectations of life

What I mean with all this is that i think that it is not so more unlogical to belive in something that could have created us than that life came from nowhere. It is a other theory among others.
No scientst dismisses a theory before he himself studied the subject and not just listend on others and go with the crowd....

Edit :
btw the string theory isnÂ´t proved and there are still many question about the string theory

Wezz · Post by **Wezz** » 19 Jan 2005, 20:42

Think you have a point......

Dont really believe in Jesus Christ, cause in the bibels, there is nothing about other planets than earth, and the sun and the moon is mentioned as the light and the dark, and its actually to stars in outer space.....

In the bibel, it sais that Puff!

and god created the trees...

Puff!

God created somethin else....

And i think its a little crappy

Dont really know what i should believe in

psteve · Post by **psteve** » 20 Jan 2005, 02:36

i never said string theory was widely accepted i just said what it explains. there must have been many trillions of amino acids in the ocean 3.05b years ago, i dont think the chances are that low that some form of life would arise. again maybe a god made life form from the amino acid soup.

milagros · Post by **milagros** » 20 Jan 2005, 12:35

imagine that you've programmed some ez prog with basic physical equations and you've got big enough computer with enough memory

=> there's a big bang (start of the prog) and somehow it develops due to the equations
=>you're the god of the program
=>the parts of the program can't figure out that they're in some comp

btw. the physical constants are VERY good set, even small changes would cause no stars, planets,...
i guess the space was started more times

Wezz · Post by **Wezz** » 27 Jan 2005, 09:40

youre crazy

Crazy · Post by **Crazy** » 27 Jan 2005, 10:35

He is not

/me is the atheist btw

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