Stupid american date format
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Stupid american date format
OK, I've had enough of this. Why do English / Americans have the stupid date formats MM-DD-YYYY or YYYY-DD-MM?
It's so illogical. It's like saying: Hey, why count 1, 2, 3 or 3, 2, 1? Let's count 2, 1, 3 or 3, 1, 2 instead.
If there is an explanation (I doubt it...) i would really like to know it!
(note: D = day, M = month, Y = year)
It's so illogical. It's like saying: Hey, why count 1, 2, 3 or 3, 2, 1? Let's count 2, 1, 3 or 3, 1, 2 instead.
If there is an explanation (I doubt it...) i would really like to know it!
(note: D = day, M = month, Y = year)
It is not illogical it is just you are not used to it, when I first learned about the rest of the countries date arrangment, I was like "what the fuck is this shit, why cant they just do it normal" (such as you are doing it now)
Well Im used to doing it mm,dd,yyyy
Im so sorry we are so stupid
edit: I made it so you people can understand it
Well Im used to doing it mm,dd,yyyy
Im so sorry we are so stupid
edit: I made it so you people can understand it
Last edited by devin on 15 Nov 2002, 02:46, edited 1 time in total.
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Being an Aussie, I use the dd-mm-yyyy format, but have no problems with the American format except when its ambiguous. for example:
03-04-2002
is that 3rd April 2002 or 4th March 2002?
Another couple to ponder:
Why do we drive on left side of road?
Why do Americans say one hundred-fifty, not one hundred AND fifty?
Why do Americans say "write me" instead of "write TO me?
(Yanks don't any of this personally )
03-04-2002
is that 3rd April 2002 or 4th March 2002?
Another couple to ponder:
Why do we drive on left side of road?
Why do Americans say one hundred-fifty, not one hundred AND fifty?
Why do Americans say "write me" instead of "write TO me?
(Yanks don't any of this personally )
That's why Moposite use 1 Jan 2002 format, it was 01.01.2002 earlier.
For me DD MM YYYY is more logical. Months contain days, years contain months (and days). One day is shorter perion that one month and one month is shorter than one year.
For me DD MM YYYY is more logical. Months contain days, years contain months (and days). One day is shorter perion that one month and one month is shorter than one year.
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zworqy wrote:
i agree that is a very stupid date format, but fortunatly for me i live in Engalnd where we dont use that date format. so next time please get you facts straight before insulting us.Why do English / Americans have the stupid date formats MM-DD-YYYY or YYYY-DD-MM?
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Correct, I did NOT insult any americans/englishmen, except for the ONE person who invented it.dz wrote:well zworqy didn't really insult english/americans, he only said their date system is stupid.. on the other hand someone could say the ppl who make stupid things must be stupid themselves, but i'm not saying that, nor is zworqy i think
BTW, sorry for being wrong about the english. Since you share miles, yards and stuff like that with the americans, I assumed it applied to date formats as well.
PS. Thank you dz, you're like the first one who spelled my nick right...
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Its true, English use dd/mm/yyyy! The 'right' way!
I agree mm/dd/yyyy is stooooopid, but thats they way they do it, cant try and convince americans theyre wrong!
And James, too harsh on our temmate, Zworqy? Nah, he was wrong
I agree mm/dd/yyyy is stooooopid, but thats they way they do it, cant try and convince americans theyre wrong!
And James, too harsh on our temmate, Zworqy? Nah, he was wrong
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The American date form is useful for sorting.
For example: with our system today is 19/11 2002, while for americans it's 11/19 2002.
If you had the dates 21/4, 14/7 and 16/12, and wanted them sorted both alphabetically and chronologically...
2104
1407
1612
...wouldn't work.
But...
0421
0714
1216
...would.
Apart from that, I agree that our system is more logical, from small to large.
For example: with our system today is 19/11 2002, while for americans it's 11/19 2002.
If you had the dates 21/4, 14/7 and 16/12, and wanted them sorted both alphabetically and chronologically...
2104
1407
1612
...wouldn't work.
But...
0421
0714
1216
...would.
Apart from that, I agree that our system is more logical, from small to large.
In this case the year should be first.MagnusB wrote:The American date form is useful for sorting.
For example: with our system today is 19/11 2002, while for americans it's 11/19 2002.
If you had the dates 21/4, 14/7 and 16/12, and wanted them sorted both alphabetically and chronologically...
2104
1407
1612
...wouldn't work.
But...
0421
0714
1216
...would.
Apart from that, I agree that our system is more logical, from small to large.
20010421 (or maybe just 010421)
20020421
So actually it works only to same year's December because after that the month is again 01.
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I know. I didn't include years in my example, because....hmmm. Well, because I didn't.
Let's say our dates were 21/4 2001, 14/7 2002 and 5/12 2002.
20012104
20021407
20020512
...does not work. Right?
20010421
20020714
20021205
..does. Do we agree?
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Let's say our dates were 21/4 2001, 14/7 2002 and 5/12 2002.
20012104
20021407
20020512
...does not work. Right?
20010421
20020714
20021205
..does. Do we agree?
I think we've learned by now that 2 digits for dates is a big no-no. =)(or maybe just 010421)
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YYYY-MM-DD is the scientific way (the logical one). The most significant figures are always on the left (look at numbers).
DD-MM-YYYY is the handy (intuitive?) way (you often want to know the day first, because you often already know the month or the year).
MM-DD-YYYY is the logical way but in an handier version, because the year is often not interesting, and it can be taken apart because you cannot confound it with the month or the day (>12 and >31 until recently, and usually written with 4 figures).
Many illogical things in languages are due to an evolution. That hybrid format is due to an evolution.
MM-DD-YYYY sucks, but the USA are too powerful to get rid of it
DD-MM-YYYY is the handy (intuitive?) way (you often want to know the day first, because you often already know the month or the year).
MM-DD-YYYY is the logical way but in an handier version, because the year is often not interesting, and it can be taken apart because you cannot confound it with the month or the day (>12 and >31 until recently, and usually written with 4 figures).
Many illogical things in languages are due to an evolution. That hybrid format is due to an evolution.
MM-DD-YYYY sucks, but the USA are too powerful to get rid of it
Yes but USA doesn't use YYYYMMDD format but MMDDYYYY.MagnusB wrote: Let's say our dates were 21/4 2001, 14/7 2002 and 5/12 2002.
20012104
20021407
20020512
...does not work. Right?
20010421
20020714
20021205
..does. Do we agree?
Hey come on, 97 years left, it won't be our problem ;].MagnusB wrote:I think we've learned by now that 2 digits for dates is a big no-no. =)Abula wrote:(or maybe just 010421)
>> :)
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Right. That's why I didn't include the years. =DYes but USA doesn't use YYYYMMDD format but MMDDYYYY.
Let me rephrase then, the American system is better for sorting. Are you all happy now?
You're making a good point! In fact, let's mess up the entire planet for future generations! {>=oD}-|-<Hey come on, 97 years left, it won't be our problem ;].
Well, if you think (1 Jan 2000, 30 Dec 2001, 12 Mar 2002)MagnusB wrote:Right. That's why I didn't include the years. =DYes but USA doesn't use YYYYMMDD format but MMDDYYYY.
Let me rephrase then, the American system is better for sorting. Are you all happy now? :)
01012000
03122002
12301001
is better than
01012000
12032002
30122001.
Aren't we doing it already?MagnusB wrote:You're making a good point! In fact, let's mess up the entire planet for future generations! {>=oD}-|-<Hey come on, 97 years left, it won't be our problem ;].
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Actually, I take back what I said about it being better. My fault. Because there's no point in sorting this way if it isn't perfect. Both of those examples you said were wrong, so there isn't really a point in saying that one is less wrong.
Yes, we're well underway already. But this is just the start....Aren't we doing it already?
Now I agree :].MagnusB wrote:Actually, I take back what I said about it being better. My fault. Because there's no point in sorting this way if it isn't perfect. Both of those examples you said were wrong, so there isn't really a point in saying that one is less wrong.
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this is an old topic but i had to say smth-
(i think) the reason USA uses MMDDYYYY is because that's the way they say it... like if the date is 30.4.2003 in "normal" format, you would say in proper english --> April 30, 2003. so in their format you would write it 4.30.2002 so that when they look at it it would be easier for them to say it, otherwise their silly little american brain will get all confused
(i think) the reason USA uses MMDDYYYY is because that's the way they say it... like if the date is 30.4.2003 in "normal" format, you would say in proper english --> April 30, 2003. so in their format you would write it 4.30.2002 so that when they look at it it would be easier for them to say it, otherwise their silly little american brain will get all confused
Like MopoGirl said, in America, people tend to say the date like
"April 24, 2003"
So we write it MM-DD-YY
I think it's dumb. I have my watch set to DD-MM-YY
"April 24, 2003"
So we write it MM-DD-YY
I think it's dumb. I have my watch set to DD-MM-YY
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Just like i said in the first post...MagnusB wrote:It's so obvious that DD-MM-YY(YY) is better than MM-DD-YY. The first one is like High - Higher - Highest, the second is High - Lower - Highest. It makes no sense.
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I agree
Stupid Americans...Also the inches system sucks... 12 inches = 1 feet ... what's wrong with 10??? let's make it like...hmm...17.318! why not?
Stupid Americans...Also the inches system sucks... 12 inches = 1 feet ... what's wrong with 10??? let's make it like...hmm...17.318! why not?
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Don't get me started on the #"&% feet and inch system... it sure is weird.
I've seen on a measure tape with feet and inches that e.g. 4 ft and 4 in is more than double of 2' 2", because inches as part of feet get bigger and bigger with the feets... or something.
But 46 inches is twice as much as 23 inches 'cause a "real" inch is always 2.54 cm.
It's kinda like the Fahrenheit temperatures. The difference between 10 and 11 F is larger than the difference between 200-201 F
I've seen on a measure tape with feet and inches that e.g. 4 ft and 4 in is more than double of 2' 2", because inches as part of feet get bigger and bigger with the feets... or something.
But 46 inches is twice as much as 23 inches 'cause a "real" inch is always 2.54 cm.
It's kinda like the Fahrenheit temperatures. The difference between 10 and 11 F is larger than the difference between 200-201 F
<Fihlvein> another case of zworqy-is-always-right closed i guess
<yoosef> zworqy doesnt suck at anything
<yoosef> zworqy doesnt suck at anything
a foot at 12 inches because 12 can be divided into 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12 exactly, whereas 10 can only be divided into 1, 2, 5 and 10.
Temperature, C into F is ?C x 1.8 + 32 = ?F
eg: 20C x 1.8 = 36, 36 + 32 = 68F so 20C = 36F, easy...right...?
Anything else?
Temperature, C into F is ?C x 1.8 + 32 = ?F
eg: 20C x 1.8 = 36, 36 + 32 = 68F so 20C = 36F, easy...right...?
Anything else?
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Definitely, metric sysem is better than "feet and inches"
I mean, come on, people have been counting in tens for years, then it's like: "lets have 12 inches in a foot, and 3 feet in a meter!"
I also think that time should be measured in tens. you can read about it at this guy's site: http://zapatopi.net/metrictime.html
may take a while to load.
I mean, come on, people have been counting in tens for years, then it's like: "lets have 12 inches in a foot, and 3 feet in a meter!"
I also think that time should be measured in tens. you can read about it at this guy's site: http://zapatopi.net/metrictime.html
may take a while to load.
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No it's not the same thing! 1 Celsius degree is always the same but 1 Fahrenheit degree varies. Also Celsius follows the real temeratur scale, Kelvin, you just have to add 273.15 degrees to get Kelvin degrees.MagnusB wrote:Fahrenheit and Celsius is the same thing. It doesn't matter much which one you use.
That was very far-fetched!SveinR wrote:12-based system probably came because of the fingers. They have 3 joints (don't count the thumb), and there are 4 fingers with 3 joints. 4*3=12.
Another thing, with metric system you can easily measure very small distances like 0.000 000 1 m = 1 μm. I don't know if it's even possible with the English system...
<Fihlvein> another case of zworqy-is-always-right closed i guess
<yoosef> zworqy doesnt suck at anything
<yoosef> zworqy doesnt suck at anything