Is distributing your own-made levels legal?

[jw]

Ever considered that distributing your own made levels could be illegal?
I never did untill I downloaded some levels and the zip-file contained also this read-me-file.

Pøedmìt (Subject): Re: About Elastomania distribution
Datum (Date): 15.8.2003 10:32
Od (From): "Balazs Rozsa" <balazs@elastomania.com> Pøidat do adresáøe >
Komu (To): "Ilja Mazánek" <IMazanek@seznam.cz> Pøidat do adresáøe >



>Dear Mr.Balazs,
>When I have been downloading your extraordinary game, attached to this
>game I have as well received a readme file, which says that I am allowed
>to distribute Elastomania and upload it to internet as long as I don't
>change anything on it. Does this as well mean that, I may distribute and
>upload to internet, levels which I have created in the Editor? If I may,
>can you please send me a readme file which says so. I am asking about this
>because I would like very much to contribute to Elastomania's spreading
>out across the world, because I consider it as a very interesting and
>non-disk capapacity consuming game, which is the most important property
>of every PC game.
>
>Yours sincerely Ilja Mazanek

Dear Mr.Ilja,

I don't have a readme file about this subject, but now I tell you that you
may distribute and upload to internet levels that you have created in the
editor. Is this enough for you instead of a readme file? I'm very happy you
like the game, thanks.

Balazs

[Ky.Jelly]

you is going to elma jail fo life wigga

[dz]

How could it be illegal? Balazs himself says there that you can do that.

[ribot]

the readme file says that it is illegal to change the game. the patches elma 1.1hb, elma 1.2, and nitro are illegal. your own levels are your own files, and it is illegal for other ppl to change them without your permission. it's about the same thing as if you make a drawing with photoshop, you have the copyright, adobe doesnt.

[jw]

How could it be illegal? Balazs himself says there that you can do that.

I know, but before I read it, I didn't know he had said/ written that.

the readme file says that it is illegal to change the game. the patches elma 1.1hb, elma 1.2, and nitro are illegal. your own levels are your own files, and it is illegal for other ppl to change them without your permission. it's about the same thing as if you make a drawing with photoshop, you have the copyright, adobe doesnt.

That's not completely the same, because a drawing is some stand-alone-thingy. U can use it without Photoshop. An ElMa-level can alone be used in ElMa. If you want to sell your level you could theoretically make money with someone else his game.
Most other games I know only give permission to non-commercial distributing of levels. But where is the border? Asking money for them/ selling them is illegal then, unless your countries laws overrule those user agreements. But freely distributing it true a profit making sponsored website, would that be legal?

[Juski]

so you cant make money on using features that exists in photoshop noyl, or some other picture program.

[jw]

i didn't read the photoshop user agreement, but my point was, i didn't never think of it before

[DarkSky]

shit, the cops are here taking away all my computers

[Rez]

the readme file says that it is illegal to change the game.

than making your own lgrs must be illegal

[jw]

so what is "the game" and what isn't?

[SveinR]

so what is "the game" and what isn't?

I would guess the source code of Elasto Mania.

[Rez]

is the elma.res file source code? and is it illegal when you rename a level to: QWQUU0XX (XX 01-55) and change this level? you dont really hack elma but you change the lev...

[SveinR]

is the elma.res file source code? and is it illegal when you rename a level to: QWQUU0XX (XX 01-55) and change this level? you dont really hack elma but you change the lev...

Well, you don't change the level inside the game so I would guess not. But the levels that they have made are copyrighted to them, so you wouldn't be allowed really to spread an edited file of those levs.

[jw]

so mirror levels are illegal?

as long as the owner of the rights doesn't mind, it is legal, at least in the Netherlands I guess

[teajay]

Gedoogbeleid it's called.

[teajay]

Just digging this up for fun, hah!

[Igge]

habadihehe 8D

[teajay]

huhuhaua =)

[Kopaka]

Just digging this up for fun, hah!

Congratiolations! You're AKB of the month.

[jw]

damn, i forgot about this topic.

by the way, did the "click"-topic ever came back or does it only exist in our memories?

[A.K.B.]

Just digging this up for fun, hah!

Congratiolations! You're AKB of the month.

shut the fuck up jaytea cunt, i am the akb of the munths

[welle]

youre AKB of July and tj was AKB of May, k?

[A.K.B.]

okay..

I.. guess...