danitah wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 10:10
In my opinion it would be best if discussing politics and religion was not allowed in EOL chat at all. It's not some authoritarian rule, it's extremely common in gaming communities etc, and it makes for a better environment imo. So I don't understand why I'm in the minority of advocating for this rule. I say this as someone who likes to discuss politics, but I think it should be reserved for their own chat rooms and not allowed in general game chat.
im think its a prety horific idea to ban whole subjects from being discussed, that realy is a whole new level of unecessary censorship
common sense says u shouldent introduce a new rule without haveing a very good reason, and im dont think those things u said are good reasons:
"other communities have rules like that" - north korea has some interesting rules
"it makes for a better environment imo" - saying something doesnt make it true necessarily, in my opinion supressing discussion is a recipe for a disasterous environment, since i think discussion between ppl who disagree with each other functions like a "rubber band" (even though noone agrees in the end of any discusion, it allows ppl to understand each others perspectives a litle bit beter), so if u remove that theres not much left that prevents the differences between ppl from growing bigger
might be a good idea to ahve a separate channel that u are encouraged to take that kind of talk to if its somthing that is very often discussed, like in discunt there is lots of politics spam so its nice to have that channel so i can mute it and never read it
duno if sach is realy warranted in eol tho? this type of discusion there is prety rare
it will be posible in oke eol anyway
danitah wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 10:10
jonsykkel wrote: ↑25 Dec 2019, 22:48
im cant remember this being a problem at al ~10y ago, im guess its just becuz this is wat ppl do these days (either just being lazy adn refusing to use brian or much wors: misinterpreting things on purpose to make sum kind of point / make ur self look like a great guy / vatever) and since ppl are like monkeys they imitate that without thinking
You're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing here. You say that people who have a different opinion than you are just trying to make themselves look good, instead of trying to understand what they are saying...
i dident say that, i said people who misinterpret things might be doing it for one of the following reasons:
lazyness, they dont want to spend the mental energy required to decode the intended message
OR
to make sum kind of point
OR
make themselfs look like a great guy
OR
something else that i havent thoguht of (maby in some cases a sentence is worded in sach an unclear way that it really is ambigiuos vat it means)
these are all guesses since u cant realy know the motivation behind everything anyway, i dident say it was one of those in all cases, and i dont see how im not trying to understand vat people are saying, u need to clarify that for me (see, i trying!)
danitah wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 10:10
I also admit that I can be wrong with this assumption. They could simply be ignorant and don't understand the significance of the words they are using. This is likely if they are very young.
what is the significance? other than the one ppl unnecessarily create by constantly insisting this significance exists
not saying anyone is doing that on purpose, i dont think most ppl have bad intentions, but that definitly seems to be the efect it has when ppl again and again reinforce the idea in ppls heads that: this word bad and man saying it is racist, u should be outraged whenever u hear this word
it creates a problem where there doesnt have to be one
words on their own shudent have any magical significance, the message behind them shud becuz thats wat actualy reflects ppls thoguhts
ArZeNiK wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 10:34
exactly but you should also consider that a) this is not the only thing that i've added to the conversation and b) even if that reply sounded offensive at the end of the day it really wasnt (pls dont argue over this im a mentally unstable person ok) , just suggesting that if you paid a bit more attention to your articulation people would have less trouble understanding you as you were complaining. ofc this does not make you lesser person or anything.
please dont treat this overdramatically and go into blaztekian levels of grammatical precision
a) consider it considered
b) i didnt find it ofensive
if someone didnt understand something ive said so far, plz point it out and i will clarify it
noone has pointed anything out so far so im lead 2 belive my langugage has been clear enough