What will happen when better times become impossible?
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What will happen when better times become impossible?
What will happen when better times become impossible? It's inevetable that sooner or later the TT WR will be as low as it can go. So what will happen then? That will be a sad time for the elma community
Even though there are a finite number of particles inside a radioactive source, it is accepted that its radioactivity never reaches zero
the point i'm making is that, whilst there is a theoretical limit on the WRTT, WRs will always get broken from time to time
don't believe? take the number 100. divide it by two. keep dividing, and you will find that you never reach zero.
the point i'm making is that, whilst there is a theoretical limit on the WRTT, WRs will always get broken from time to time
don't believe? take the number 100. divide it by two. keep dividing, and you will find that you never reach zero.
[OMG] | [SpEF] | Apparently my TT was once 39:26:06
very truesierra wrote:Even though there are a finite number of particles inside a radioactive source, it is accepted that its radioactivity never reaches zero
the point i'm making is that, whilst there is a theoretical limit on the WRTT, WRs will always get broken from time to time
don't believe? take the number 100. divide it by two. keep dividing, and you will find that you never reach zero.
It is absolutely sure that TT will never be under 30 minutes for example.SlenderBelly wrote:very truesierra wrote:Even though there are a finite number of particles inside a radioactive source, it is accepted that its radioactivity never reaches zero
the point i'm making is that, whilst there is a theoretical limit on the WRTT, WRs will always get broken from time to time
don't believe? take the number 100. divide it by two. keep dividing, and you will find that you never reach zero.
And very small improvents (<0.01s) aren't counted because they are rounded.
It's just a fact that there is a limit. But nobody knows what is it...
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Yes there is a limit but we will never reach it, and the human isnt perfect so it would be very hard to improve when WR tt is low enough.Lostsoul wrote:It is absolutely sure that TT will never be under 30 minutes for example.SlenderBelly wrote:very truesierra wrote:Even though there are a finite number of particles inside a radioactive source, it is accepted that its radioactivity never reaches zero
the point i'm making is that, whilst there is a theoretical limit on the WRTT, WRs will always get broken from time to time
don't believe? take the number 100. divide it by two. keep dividing, and you will find that you never reach zero.
And very small improvents (<0.01s) aren't counted because they are rounded.
It's just a fact that there is a limit. But nobody knows what is it...
And why doesnt 0.01 count?? and wtf do u mean by they are rounded? they arent rounded.
yeah, if / when the new elma arrives it would start the whole ball rolling again, especially if all the internal levels were newramone wrote:he wrote: LESS THAN 0.01
also.. wrs can be improved pretty much... though... even if they coudlnt.. ppl could still play externals cups tt and so on.
Also maybe new elma comes... I see no problems with this at all.. baye
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ez to prove mathematicly than wrs will reach lowest tt
the sequence of tt of the tables is still getting down or staying (un-ascending)
wt tt is bounded atleast by 00:00:00
=> Weierstrass theorem - the sequence is convergent
final value can reach only discrete values (times 0.01)
=> wr tt will reach some value form which it won't ever go down
ez proof
the sequence of tt of the tables is still getting down or staying (un-ascending)
wt tt is bounded atleast by 00:00:00
=> Weierstrass theorem - the sequence is convergent
final value can reach only discrete values (times 0.01)
=> wr tt will reach some value form which it won't ever go down
ez proof
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converging sequences are conceptual, hence phrases like "the sum to infinity". not literal.milagros wrote:ez to prove mathematicly than wrs will reach lowest tt
the sequence of tt of the tables is still getting down or staying (un-ascending)
wt tt is bounded atleast by 00:00:00
=> Weierstrass theorem - the sequence is convergent
final value can reach only discrete values (times 0.01)
=> wr tt will reach some value form which it won't ever go down
ez proof
do you know what an asymptote is? the graph i mentioned earlier would form two "perpendicular" asymptotes
[OMG] | [SpEF] | Apparently my TT was once 39:26:06
there are only discrete values of times, so there are no asymptotes dammitsierra wrote:converging sequences are conceptual, hence phrases like "the sum to infinity". not literal.milagros wrote:ez to prove mathematicly than wrs will reach lowest tt
the sequence of tt of the tables is still getting down or staying (un-ascending)
wt tt is bounded atleast by 00:00:00
=> Weierstrass theorem - the sequence is convergent
final value can reach only discrete values (times 0.01)
=> wr tt will reach some value form which it won't ever go down
ez proof
do you know what an asymptote is? the graph i mentioned earlier would form two "perpendicular" asymptotes
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milagros is right, mathematically.
The question is when and why the limit will be reached. This is my view, in the light of statistics:
As WRs are getting harder to beat, new WRs are getting less and less probable. The average time between new WRs will increase, maybe months and then years. Finally, for some reason, there will be a last WR. This doesn't mean new WRs are impossible, but it has become so hard, and there has been so many years, that noone bothers.
Now, we will never know when the last WR is beaten, because it is still possible to improve. It could still be possible that in 20 years some maniac beats one of the WRs. And then maybe he beats a few more, but then maybe the last WR is set.
What's interesting is that this WILL happen. There is only a finite number of WRs left that will be taken. One of them must be the last. But for all we now this may happen in a hundred years, and unless the theoretical limit is reached (very improbable) we can never be sure that it's the last one.
The question is when and why the limit will be reached. This is my view, in the light of statistics:
As WRs are getting harder to beat, new WRs are getting less and less probable. The average time between new WRs will increase, maybe months and then years. Finally, for some reason, there will be a last WR. This doesn't mean new WRs are impossible, but it has become so hard, and there has been so many years, that noone bothers.
Now, we will never know when the last WR is beaten, because it is still possible to improve. It could still be possible that in 20 years some maniac beats one of the WRs. And then maybe he beats a few more, but then maybe the last WR is set.
What's interesting is that this WILL happen. There is only a finite number of WRs left that will be taken. One of them must be the last. But for all we now this may happen in a hundred years, and unless the theoretical limit is reached (very improbable) we can never be sure that it's the last one.
