To stop all the confusion and arguments all this ill provide proof that my Speed program isn't Nitro. My program dosent even modify elma files it just makes it run faster/slower
i have made some screenies go to:
you beat my time mines 17:19, well i only tryed the lev like 15 times...
i dunno, i dont know if i should send it, because it can fall into the wrong hands, and yes when u watch ur rec it plays normal, it just gives you the advantage on playing very slow so you know whats going on and can plan ahead, and for the lazy put it on fast and finish the game in like 10-20 min
i dont use ICQ or IRC i might start using it i dunno, i just hate it cause its a trial and i cant be stuffed getting a crack.
i made up my mind, i wont give it away, unless someone can persue me very very good or maybe bribe
Every new program needs some test players, i can check how much it gives advantage. So if I'm top5 in next wcup event=good cheat prog ...out of top10=no use at all
Hmmm, I don't use unlocker... I just play like hell
4th position in WC4 (DAMN YOU KARLIS!!!!) PWNED KARLIS IN WC5!!!!TT:39:2x:xx (you've got some playing to do Stini ) When it's all over the question is not who was right. The question is who's left.
Seriously I have never used lev unlocker. I thought about doing it at #03 to find the fastest route, but someone (Lucian?) uploaded a map of the lev. I just haven't bothered to find it and download it. I can see the use of it, I understand people using it, and I don't consider it cheating, but I like to play entire levels, not just parts of it. I would be too mad if I made a section perfectly on a training lev and then screwed all up doing the whole level.
4th position in WC4 (DAMN YOU KARLIS!!!!) PWNED KARLIS IN WC5!!!!TT:39:2x:xx (you've got some playing to do Stini ) When it's all over the question is not who was right. The question is who's left.
RoniMox- the program simply Speeds up Elma or it can make it run slow, as you can see i provided two screenshots on my site: www.assassinarchives.tk
Those screenies are exagurated ud never put it that fast or slow, cause other wise it crash, +1.4 is fast enough and -1.4 is slow enough.
Abula- i wont send anyone the program.
Other People- I wont make Anti cheating programs because im too lazy
That's OBVIOUSLY a cheat program!!! duh!!! timing of tricks comes a hundred times easier and more exact if u play with e.g ½speed. extreme pros in theory wouldn't need that but to everyone else it would be a great helper.
Antz wrote: timing of tricks comes a hundred times easier and more exact if u play with e.g ½speed.
Driving in slomo isn´t as easy as it may seem, sure, it may be easier to drive trough tight tunnels (for some) but driving fast is really hard. Get elmanitro somewhere and try....
In driving wr´s I can assure you it don´t help at all. And no, timing is not easier.
after driving wiv nitro i know it is easier, after u get the hang of it. but! best prog would have a button that can change to slow-mow and back, for difficult spots.
Hey Abula, do you want this program? as soon as i got on across everyones bombarding me with questions and saying its detectable if i give it to u u can tell them all thats its not detectable.
i belive it's not fake,
maybe it won't be detected yet,
if ya intended to use it for ur own purposes and not giving it away,
why come here and tell everyone how amazing it is
Hazding wanted me to check with some guy i think carc if its detectable i dont know who it is but i want to know if it is, abula can you get this rec http://www.boomspeed.com/assassin1337/detect.rec
and see if its detectable
DZ im not braging, its a forum we discuss whats happening in elma im just saying whats happening to me =P
abula most likely can't detect (maybe he has already anti-speed tool) cuz he doesn't code those things. better send it to carc aka mgen. he has registered on this board so u'll find his emal there
Assassin wrote:Hey Abula, do you want this program? as soon as i got on across everyones bombarding me with questions and saying its detectable if i give it to u u can tell them all thats its not detectable.
tell me if you want it.
You can mail it to me, I can forward to MGen (carc). His email is mgen@freemail.hu if you want to mail directly.
I asked for this because i want to know can i still play internals (mainly) without fearing someone can easily cheat and it will not be detected. as it seems you're not willing to tell, which is strange i think, im afraid it makes at least me less interested on serious playing simply cuz i'm not sure is the speed cheating fully protected and normal players can safely play without being worried that someone can just cheat and no one knows anything about it.
of course we can't forget the fact, that if you really can't detect it, it's not maybe wise to admit it. tho i don't want to make any conclusions.
well i kinda understand it's better to keep low profile on these things. it's kinda wishful thinking to hear "we have now good tools to detect this form of cheat", and yea, after all, i think it's better to keep it low prof. i have nothing to add about the matter. :)
i really don't understand why abula/px won't spread anti cheat progs, cuz what if someone sends a MOX lev record and it's cheated, and i have no idea that it's cheated? doesn't seem to fair
a big point in anti-cheating programs is that people don't know what kind of programs exist. therefore they dare not risk getting caught in cheating and don't. if anti-cheating progs are known ppl use cheats that can't be detected yet.
RoniMox wrote:i really don't understand why abula/px won't spread anti cheat progs, cuz what if someone sends a MOX lev record and it's cheated, and i have no idea that it's cheated? doesn't seem to fair :?
Yes it's a problem but we cannot spread the programs. Though it's pretty obvious no one would cheat in some small contests, no need.
RoniMox wrote:i really don't understand why abula/px won't spread anti cheat progs, cuz what if someone sends a MOX lev record and it's cheated, and i have no idea that it's cheated? doesn't seem to fair
Yes it's a problem but we cannot spread the programs. Though it's pretty obvious no one would cheat in some small contests, no need.
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Well...I know for a fact that people has cheated in small contests (Höylä Competition for example), but that's only easy-detectable cheats like changing something in the level file.
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